LOL yeah apples and oranges yeah!

50 white trash, trans am driving wigger pit owners.

Well i stand by my experience and viewpoint as an owner and breeder of HUNDREDS of pitbulls, meeting each and every owner personally over decades. :2 cents:

Yeah I'm sure you're dealing with a different crowd.

I love animals. We have 4 dogs and 2 cats...used to even have 2 birds.

However, I have not met a pit yet that I could honestly say I would want to take home with me.

Akitas are twice the size of Pits and were trained to take down 800 lbs bears. How come they are for sale? My grandparents once own an Akita and I'd put one of those up against 2 Pits and the Atika would kick their asses.

One day we will meet and i will GUARANTEED change your mind about that.. I have a 40lb pit that is a lapdog will eat your heart.

You're retarded. So I won't debate with you. Even if I win I still lose.

Pit bulls were also used for bull and bear baiting..

http://www.wspa.org.uk/data/081202_1...ding_-_200.jpg

Fuck you. How is my statement retarded. Do you even know what an Akita is?

I don't WTF I did to you to deserve that comment. Please explain yourself.

I currently own a Queensland Heeler.. but I have always wanted a pit bull, and will eventually get one.

My wife is in the veterinarian field and sees plenty of dog bites and fight injuries, all breeds have their flaws and in most cases yes there are alot of shitty owners out there.. but the generalization that only drug dealers and white trash own pitbulls is a little bit out there...

My wife and myself took our heeler through 4 months of obedience training, which has made our dog a fantastic dog... And I would deffinetly do that to any other dog that I ever own again...

I am on the middle/upper class of the spectrum of society and I would gladly have multiple pit bulls as companions.. They are bully breads, but the shithead owners are the ones that like to taunt the agression in the dogs..

I Hope that because I will one day own a pit bull that I am not dubbed as white trash..

man what the fuck? Nobody is arguing this point. We're saying don't blame the dog because the owner is an asshole.

White trash loves Pits now. It used to be Dobies. Next it will be German Shepards or something. Ban dog breeders totally imho, problem solved. There are a ton of dogs dying in shelters everyday, including pits, and thousands of breeders like David Stodgehill constantly making new ones. It's a damn shame.

Buster doesn't like the tone of this conversation

http://www.fetishbucks.com/me/buster.jpg

you're probably right, I love dogs and my nieces have a Dachsund that I just thought was ugly as sin and now she thinks that I'm like her 2nd best friend in the world...LOL

your average Akita has zero chance against a pit. Neither does a Rott, a German Shepard or a Presa Canario. Pits were bred to kill other dogs and they're very very good at it, simple as that.

They're friendly to people as long as they're socialized but they are ALWAYS a threat to other dogs.

wow makes me wanna go out and get one just this minute.

Good for them. My point is that ther are PLENTY of large dog capable of killing people yet people only want to ban Pits. My point is that infact a Akita is a MORE potential dangerous dog than a Pit.

Akita
Height
Males 26 to 28 inches at the withers; bitches 24 to 26 inches

The males range in weight from about 100 to 130 pounds, while the females range from 70 to 100 pounds.

Pits
Height
17-23 inches (for dogs and bitches).

Weight
Bitches: 30-50lbs Dogs: 35-60lbs.

i was apprehensive around buster for approximately 2 minutes. he is ridiculously sweet and a testament to the notion that how the dog is raised has everything to do with how it acts around humans.

Labs retrieve, Pits fight. That's what they do. Their original purpose was to go into warthog holes, fight the warthog and drive them out to where they can be killed, and to bring down bears. Not too many people hunt bears and warthogs anymore, but that doesn't mean it's no longer a viable breed. Naturally they're extremely people friendly, extremely dog aggressive. Every breed has it's quirks you have to take into account.

But funny thing is...I watch you guys along with Anthony get on here sounding all roided out after going and beating the shit out of each other and class mates at the local BJJ class....I'm not surprised a pit was thrown into the equation. :1orglaugh

And Akitas were bread to kill BEARS.

I own a Pit my sister has own Pits my grandparents owned an Akita so I have experience with BOTH dogs, unlike YOU. I think I'm more of an expert in this than you. I have seen upclose and personal what each is capable of.

Akitas are generally considered by vets to be more dangerous to people than Pits, as are Dobies and German Shepards. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on those breeds.

This goes for ANY dog though... Any dog can snap out at any time.. They may not win, but they are always a threat... push to many buttons and they snap, just like humans...

I know what your saying Dig, and I agree with alot of it.. but people fail to realize animals have instincts and they sometimes come out at the worst of times....

Alot of the time it's the dipshit owners that allow this to happen and encourage it to happen..

owned indeed

well i guess that clinches it, akitas will defeat pit bulls 100% of the time. flawless logic.

dig, it's all over with, his grandparents owned one.

*edit--bread?

I train BJJ for my health and my confidence. You don't see me threatening anyone on this board or anywhere else, in fact I don't like fighting at all. I just like being ready in case I'm forced into it.

So now your theory is not only that all Pits are vicious, but everyone who trains BJJ is vicious as well? Come over here and spend some time at my place and I'll disabuse you of both notions. Or break your arm, depending on how we get along :1orglaugh

It's not as simple as that because that simply isn't true.. Its like saying humans were bred to be cannibals because "some" of them at one point were cannibals.. The fact is most pitbulls over the last few HUNDRED years were NOT bred for killing anything.

I have raised 4 generations of pits and can trace lineage back several hundred years. No dog/human or any other animal killing was involved in the breeding of them whatsoever in any fashion..

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At one time our culture knew all about personal responsibility. We understood that large dogs could be dangerous and it was the owner's responsibility to watch over it. Now we just want to ban anything that MIGHT harm us based on the latest media craze.

This is probably true, but you don't get rid of species traits bred for over a thousand years in just a couple generations. Pits aren't really bred for gameness anymore and that's a good thing, but I still wouldn't take a chance leaving one in a room alone with another dog.

fuck off tard. Accord to YOU Pits kill EVERYTHING 100% of the time. Idiot and HYPOCRITE. I find it ironic that peole that spout off about Pits often have ZERO experience with them and get their POV from the news.

Like I said I was bit by a German Sheppard UNPROVOKE and I was in my own yards so I guess that means we need to kill all of them.

99% of all breeds of dogs are less than 300 years old by the way.

Why are you breeding Pits? I can go to any shelter in LA and find hundreds of them waiting to be put down at any time because there are no homes for them. Most dogs that come from breeders are used for fighting or as stock for other breeders. Breeding Pits is nothing to be proud of, it's the last thing this breed needs.

Jesus man, take a valium. Go read some of the old dogfighter pages on the web. I don't agree with anything about those people and would like to kill them all, but they know about dogfighting. If Akitas could whip Pits they'd be breeding Akitas, and they're not.

A certain Akita might be able to whip a certain Pit, but that's the exception and definitely not the rule.

Nobody is arguing the ability, but as a breed if you took 10 dogs of every top breed and stuck them 1 on 1 with each other in a room, i dont think realistically the pits would do any more damage than any other breed. They might be the least likely to get their ass kicked though :) but i seriously would doubt pits would be the majority aggressor..

It would be an interesting test though :)

No shit

These are Akita PUPPIES and maybe they are barely weened. Meaning they are maybe 8 weeks old at best.

http://www.gotpetsonline.com/picture...akita-0004.jpg

True, but not Pits. They're an ancient breed, been around a LONG LONG time.

I'm not currently breeding them , at the time i was breeding most of them was in california and there was a serious lack of good lineage pit's. Mine went for at least a grand a piece and 2 for red nose.

Um please explain WHY you didn't tell the person that insulted me FIRST to take a valium? Hmmm a little baised are you? Yet another HYPOCRITE.

That was kind of dumb.

I should also add we didnt just sell our pit's to any shmoe, anyone who asked for one of my pits for a guard dog , was told to buy a doberman. Every one of my dogs was sold as family pets, and each buyer went through an interview and a walkthrough of the dogs future home.

Listen a dog is more like to be good or bad based on the OWNER not the breed. Bad owners make bad dogs. EVERY dog breed has bitten someone on some occasion somewhere. Like I said I've been bitten by a chiuaua unprovoked.

The rednecks that are bad Pit owners also have kids that end up being bad people who do drugs, sell drugs and are genereally a drag on society. Should we call for rednecks to stop having kids?

I don't know. My dog is the biggest lover in the world but he gets real agitated around other dogs. Reading about the breed the general concensus seems to be that you shouldn't ever give the Pit even the chance to fight another dog, because there's a good chance they will. I keep mine away from other dogs period just so it doesn't ever become an issue.

This whole thread is dumb.

Nothing in here I disagree with.

Smokey I wish all breeders could say that, but I'd say 99% of them are tweaked out rednecks or ghetto gangstas. Backyard breeders are the biggest problem the breed faces.

well given that the only reason you're posting in this thread is because you're convinced that Akitas are tougher than Pits, I'd say you might have misunderstood the topic of conversation.

so who's dumb?

No I started posting because of the idiot that is calling for all Pits to be destroyed because they are "killers". I own a Pit, I like them. I also like Akitas. Not enough to pay $1200 for one, but I like them. My POV is NOT based on a prefence or a biased for either, but on a knowledge of BOTH breeds.

If for some reason my Pit were to attack a small child I am fully capable of snaping her neck in less than 5 seconds. I would never attempt to do that on an Akita in the same situation.

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From my own experience i would say pit's arent usually the aggressor. The problem is when other dogs get aggresive and then a pit is dangerous.. they usually wont stop, whereas other dogs stop when the fighting gets too rough..

The only dog-dog violence my dogs have ever been involved with other than a minor scuffle was when my main breeding female was in heat and chained up and another female dog came up gave it a sniff , my dog gave it a warning bark, the other dog nipped its neck , and it was on .. one quick cut from the right leg up the chest and back down the left leg split completely open , dog died within minutes, it was over in about 10 seconds.. So it did its job nothing more.

why would you want to snap a small child's neck? :warning

The Pit you moron.

Now I'm a moron? Didn't you read where I'm a vicious BJJ fighter?

Be careful....

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worthless thread
any dog over 60lbs can kill a person and when it happens the media often reports them as pit bulls or pit bull like regardless of the breed. this very thing happened here a few years back, the news reported a child being mauled by pit bulls. a week later they showed photos of the animals locked up about to be put down with the title "Killer Pitbulls get put to sleep". the only problem is the two dogs were big.. black... rottweilers. what a fucking joke