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150 starving newbies!
Movie change isn't bad for an hour a day. :) A really dedicated beginner could do a lot better. |
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Okay, I got three newbies, only two told me who they are. Work with me here.
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Tala, I signed up for the yahoo group under kektex2005...
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Hey 2HP I was just reading your interview thread (excellent BTW) and was surprised to read you´ve been to Venezuela...which is where I´m writing this from!
How did you end up down here? |
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I signed up for the yahoo group under amigoporn69. :)
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I was the only person on the team who speaks Spanish, so I got to go -- :) -- I remember the location was a resort on the coast about 45 minutes by small plane from Caracas -- but can't remember the name... 2HP |
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I'm a newb tooo
i want help toooooooooooooo I'm a nice 19 year old boy from new york. I'm a musician with no major responsibilities like work or school. I'm eager and have time, money and patience to learn the ropes from a succesful webmaster. I like pencils and my eyes are blue. If you wanna be my webmaster mentor drop me a line. [email protected] |
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don't forget the n00bs that don't think they are n00bs. several on here don't make anything,but contantly live a false premise. those are the ones that you can really help. you're a good guy, they should listen to you. |
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Tala...
I joined the group. I assume it used my yahoo login, which is crystallineclarity. Thanks, babe! |
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Forget this post, Tala. I acted before I read. I created a new profile so it would be close to my gfy name. So I am re-joining as selenak1961. Sorry for the ditzyness on my part. |
great thread
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I just woke up so i havent' been able to do any forum related stuff, apparently well be using the forum, so everyone go signup here: http://forum.teentropic.com - I added some new categories and if there is a particular skin you would like for the forum go here: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/catdb.php?db=2 - You can drop a line in the suggestions category if you like something you see there.
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i wish. lol. pain is in the tenure of being exposed to this for so long. lol. |
To many people now looks like I wont get any help! Good Luck guys. :(
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Don't forget to signup at the forums 2HP, after all it's named after you. :1orglaugh
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REMINDER:
Tonight's discussion will be... Web Site Design Principles -- A visual design & architecture primer I am also very pleased to announce a Special Guest Discussion for Tuesday June 28th -- "SEO Traffic Acquisition Basics" by goodgirl* *(goodgirl - Director of Internet Marketing at Got Web Host is a full time SEO, with seven years experience building and designing successful websites. Her vast knowledge in SEO/SEM helps make Got Web Host the valuable resource it is today. 2HP |
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...taking notes... |
"The world can be seen as only connections, nothing else? A piece of information is really only defined by what it?s related to, and how it?s related. There really is little else to meaning. The structure is everything." -- Tim Berners-Lee
"Less is more." -- Ludwig Mies van der Rohe "I am not an effective manager of my time." -- Jack Mardack* *(Sorry for the delay) 2HP |
Tala, I've created a new yahoo ID and signed up as "zester_zester" - please approve.
Nightwind, I signed up to forum.teentropic.com as well. |
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awesome thread, very nice of 2HousePlague! :)
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signed up as drunkeric2, sounds like an great chance to learn some more
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Web Site Design Principles -- A visual design & architecture primer
My fondness for the Adult Biz is great ? else, why do THIS, HERE. But I am often left scratching my head when I consider some of its pervasive practices. The object of this discussion is to acquaint readers with Web Site Design Basics. It is written, ostensibly, for the Noob (the Impoverished Noob, to be precise), but I don?t think I?d mind it if a few established, well-paid creators of Adult Web Sites marked some of the points I intend to cover. Success is hard to argue with ? but I?m gonna try anyway. As we all know, there?s a lot of money made here in Adult ? and certainly, that success owes to great ingenuity, great talent, and an understanding of certain aspects of the Medium found nowhere else. But, I think that Pornography on the Web was so IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE FAIL, that many GOOD practices and SOUND principles from the non-Adult commercial Web were never learned ? because they never had to be. Site Design is, in my opinion, one of those areas where we could do better. I can already anticipate the indignant cries of ?What the fuck are you talking about, man ? I gets PAID!? ? but, to reiterate, I am not saying money isn?t being made. What I?m saying is that most of the site designs I see out there could do even better, if their designers took into account a few well-tested ideas that they might not have heard of. Specifically, I want to review some of the principles of Usability and Information Architecture ? even a little Visual Design, in those ways where VD for the Web departs meaningfully from the norms of VD for print. First a definition: Information Architecture
This definition of IA is broader than IA for the Web, because the science of IA predates the Web. Before anyone had ever surfed or even pushed a mouse, Information Architects were concerning themselves with the challenges of joining many types of Information Consumers with Information Caches. At the most basic (earliest) end of the IA spectrum, consider a book. Today, we couldn?t fathom holding a book in our hands that didn?t have a table of contents and numbered pages. But these are innovations that came much after the basic fact of words printed on a page. As our ?systems? for information ?storage? and ?retrieval? became more complex, so did the science of IA evolve to incorporate new ?technologies? as they emerged. I deliberately placed the terms ?system?, ?storage?, ?retrieval? and ?technology? in quotes, because I expect most people using or reading those terms today associate them with IT and the computer age. And, even though the expression Information Architecture wasn?t coined until 1976, the science of IA ? by any other name ? is ancient and evident in applications as diverse as urban planning, human resources (staffing), and was the core of the reverse engineering strategy that cracked DNA?s ?filing system?. This is about the point where I usually apologize for my long-windedness. But it?s also where I provide you with a context for a dump of information that may seem little related to the subject at hand. I?m sorry ? it?s what I do -- lol. I have found that by backing as far away from the Applied Specifics of an idea as you can, you can gain a grasp of it that will allow you to take that idea places no one ever expected. And now, the abstractions made concrete. In the context of Web Sites, Information Architecture is? (cont?d. shortly) 2HP |
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Thanks for hooking up that group, BTW. Cheers :) |
I will be in the back of the room, watching with great interest and learning, too.
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~listens, chewing lightly on pencil eraser~
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I got the new 10 who joined last night. :) Glad to have you all. :) Posting the lesson now.
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2pac aka al_carrerra just signed on yahoo group
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I just signed on yahoo group with Me0razhar nick
notice it is "zero" instead of "o" :) |
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What are the guidelines for following group discussions? Do we reply with our thoughts? Sit back, relax and read? Basically, I've never done the "yahoo group" thing and am just wondering on the "proper etiquette" :) |
Tala, you might want to send out the url to the forum in one of the newsletters. Here is the url again if someone missed it: http://forum.teentropic.com
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Just no flaming or completely asinine posting, and you're fine. Post, read, learn and let's make some money! :) |
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Now stop changing the damn forum skin. I love the one you have on it now. :thumbsup |
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Web Site Design Principles -- A visual design & architecture primer -- cont'd.
In the context of Web Sites, the contribution of Information Architecture is simply the links and pages and the relationships between them. Though, on paper, IA work reduces to a site map... ...all of the value (and difficulty) of good IA comes comes from:
At this point, it makes sense to drop in another definition: Usability
In Web Site design, Usability and IA are inseparable ? though some folks will tell you it?s possible for good IA to stand alone, I have seen so much good IA fucked into worthlessness because the Usability was bad. This usually happens when programmers, who much more readily ?get? IA than Usability, have created a sound architecture, but not had the good sense to let a good Usability or Human Factors person take it from there. Although there are many kinds of Web Site, which is to say there are many different purposes for which Web Sites are designed, since our aim as industry is to make sales happen, we?ll focus on e-commerce sites. For clarification, e-commerce means to sell on the Web ? it?s a broad category that includes many forms of fulfillment ? but the commonality is that the ?deal is closed? online. There are a couple of models where that?s the case without a CC (or other method of electronic payment) having been debited, but they don?t concern this discussion. On the Web, ?where? EQUALS ?how? Do you think Tiffany?s would build a store on this "road"... http://url.co.nz/african_trip/Images...esert_road.jpg (cont'd shortly) 2HP |
*adds this to the group*
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