Hey Lensman, where is Reality Cash's 2257 solution??? - GoFuckYourself.com

Snake Doctor · 06-22-2005, 09:13 AM

I see you jumping on hahaha and telling them they can't black out the ID's, and jumping on Nasty Dollars and telling them they can't encrypt the ID's.

Where is your solution for 2257? You said you would have 3 of them, and the regs go into effect in 12 hours.

How much time were you planning on giving webmasters to download the ID's and cross reference everything?

I did several searches just in case I missed your announcement, and all I found was you saying on 5/31 that you would have 3 solutions and gallery builders were making a big mistake by not promoting you.
Now there are 12 hours left, what's the deal?

xxxice · 06-22-2005, 09:14 AM

They sent an email last night explaining I think

Manowar · 06-22-2005, 09:14 AM

All I've read was

Quote:

1. Using FHGs?

Adult.com's FHG's are 100% 2257 compliant RIGHT NOW!

2. Building galleries?

Adult.com will make sure you can be 2257 compliant before the new regulations are enforced. We will have three solutions to choose from. More on this soon.

3. What's the lesson here?

If you are a TGP or gallery builder and not promoting RealityCash, you're making a big mistake.

I think that might be it, unless I missed it

TheDoc · 06-22-2005, 09:36 AM

I brought this up before..

Trax · 06-22-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vanderweb

They sent an email last night explaining I think

really?? I didn't get that one
mind to forward it to me?

Manowar · 06-22-2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

really?? I didn't get that one
mind to forward it to me?

Same here plz

RedShoe · 06-22-2005, 09:39 AM

Basically... "thanks for the sales, remove all our shit" That's what everyone else is saying.

Snake Doctor · 06-22-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Basically... "thanks for the sales, remove all our shit" That's what everyone else is saying.

Well some companies are giving out ID's....although in an encrypted format or something else, and others have said here's some softcore content to replace what you've been using.

wjxxx · 06-22-2005, 09:50 AM

All you need is just link to their 2257 page. Problem solved

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-22-2005, 09:52 AM

Did I ever mention Lens hates this kind of shit?

Snake Doctor · 06-22-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjxxx

All you need is just link to their 2257 page. Problem solved

Did you get a law degree from a cracker jack box?
That's a good way to end up in jail in a hurry.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-22-2005, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Did you get a law degree from a cracker jack box?
That's a good way to end up in jail in a hurry.

Its funny , but he does actually "kind" of have a point.

If you are using HARDCORE content that requires 2257 docs and instead of keeping the content on your servers you use a php include to grab the content from the sponsors servers ( i realise that hotlinking doesnt exempt you from 2257 ), shouldnt the same be applicable for the 2257 docs ? Like shouldnt you be able to use the same php include to display the 2257 ( i.e. not from your servers )

Snake Doctor · 06-22-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Its funny , but he does actually "kind" of have a point.

If you are using HARDCORE content that requires 2257 docs and instead of keeping the content on your servers you use a php include to grab the content from the sponsors servers ( i realise that hotlinking doesnt exempt you from 2257 ), shouldnt the same be applicable for the 2257 docs ? Like shouldnt you be able to use the same php include to display the 2257 ( i.e. not from your servers )

If you want to risk 5 years of your freedom trying to be "cute" with the law, then be my guest.
I for one am not that brave.

If you have editorial control over a page, then it is your responsibility to maintain documentation for all sexually explicit content that appears on the pages you have editorial control over.
It doesn't matter where the content itself is hosted.

David - PG · 06-22-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

If you are using HARDCORE content that requires 2257 docs and instead of keeping the content on your servers you use a php include to grab the content from the sponsors servers ( i realise that hotlinking doesnt exempt you from 2257 ), shouldnt the same be applicable for the 2257 docs ? Like shouldnt you be able to use the same php include to display the 2257 ( i.e. not from your servers )

I believe the wording is "insert into Webpages". An iframe or php would still be "inserting" I would assume.

Alex · 06-22-2005, 11:34 AM

Smokey does have a good point.
But i rather not fuck with the law, because when the DOJ comes to the RC office and asks them if sitedomain.com that was linkin to your 2257 is your site, and the adult.com crew says no/ Then you are fucked.

As for the encryption. What is wrong with that?

wdsguy · 06-22-2005, 11:44 AM

bump for answers, I didn't get any email from RC

pradaboy · 06-22-2005, 12:21 PM

Interesting point to say the least... I still think ND's solution is top notch and very creative!

andrej_NDC · 06-22-2005, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

If you want to risk 5 years of your freedom

you are not living in a freedom

Sly · 06-22-2005, 12:33 PM

I was thinking this last night.

Reality Cash was one of the first programs to say "hey guys, don't worry, we have something for you". Now we're within hours of "Judgment Day" and I have yet to see any solution provided by Reality Cash.

I'm sorry, but that is bull shit. If you don't have a solution, don't say you will.

I am extremely disappointed with several "top companies" who have refused to make ANY comment whatsoever regarding 2257. At least have the courtesy to tell your affiliates to pucker up before pounding them in the ass.

COMMUNICATION IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED! I realize models privacy is a huge concern, I understand that. All I'm asking for is communication.

wdsguy · 06-22-2005, 12:46 PM

still waiting for official word.

SykkBoy · 06-22-2005, 01:00 PM

maybe I'll quit porn and go to work for the DOJ......

mahoney · 06-22-2005, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb

They sent an email last night explaining I think

Yeah, I'm sure they have it all organized. Lens is a sharp dude

Lensman · 06-22-2005, 03:35 PM

We made an announcement a long time ago saying we will provide proven affiliates with all of the required records.

We have been working with individual affiliates to meet their needs, but I will make another summary post to let everyone know what we are doing for them.

FilthyRob · 06-22-2005, 03:36 PM

I am ready

adonthenet · 06-22-2005, 03:39 PM

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jayeff · 06-22-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David - PG

I believe the wording is "insert into Webpages". An iframe or php would still be "inserting" I would assume.

We must be reading different regulations. The ones I saw require you to identify on your site(s) the location of your place of business, which must also be the place where your records are stored and correctly cross-referenced. Unless I am way off with that summary, I don't see how linking to someone else's 2257 statement has any relevance.

Come to that, since your records must include copies of all your pages, originals and subsequent (changed) versions, framing content itself is dangerous, since you will not know when pages have changed. If DOJ investigators show up with a screenshot that you cannot match, you are already guilty of a felony.

As to the broader picture, this certainly isn't our industry's finest hour. Most sponsors appear to have sat on their thumbs for the past 9 months and now are using claims about fears for model safety as an excuse for doing nothing. It would be easier to believe these fears were sincere, but for the fact that there are far more sponsors than photographers, so we have the ludicrous situation of some sponsors now witholding records that photographers themselves have been handing out for years: in most cases without making any attempt to obscure addresses, etc.

06-22-2005, 09:13 AM	#1
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Hey Lensman, where is Reality Cash's 2257 solution??? I see you jumping on hahaha and telling them they can't black out the ID's, and jumping on Nasty Dollars and telling them they can't encrypt the ID's. Where is your solution for 2257? You said you would have 3 of them, and the regs go into effect in 12 hours. How much time were you planning on giving webmasters to download the ID's and cross reference everything? I did several searches just in case I missed your announcement, and all I found was you saying on 5/31 that you would have 3 solutions and gallery builders were making a big mistake by not promoting you. Now there are 12 hours left, what's the deal? __________________ sig too big

06-22-2005, 09:36 AM	#4
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06-22-2005, 09:39 AM	#7
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06-22-2005, 11:34 AM	#15
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Smokey does have a good point. But i rather not fuck with the law, because when the DOJ comes to the RC office and asks them if sitedomain.com that was linkin to your 2257 is your site, and the adult.com crew says no/ Then you are fucked. As for the encryption. What is wrong with that? __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

06-22-2005, 09:14 AM	#2
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	They sent an email last night explaining I think

06-22-2005, 09:50 AM	#9
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	All you need is just link to their 2257 page. Problem solved

06-22-2005, 11:44 AM	#16
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	bump for answers, I didn't get any email from RC

06-22-2005, 12:21 PM	#17
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	Interesting point to say the least... I still think ND's solution is top notch and very creative! __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

06-22-2005, 12:33 PM	#19
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,339	I was thinking this last night. Reality Cash was one of the first programs to say "hey guys, don't worry, we have something for you". Now we're within hours of "Judgment Day" and I have yet to see any solution provided by Reality Cash. I'm sorry, but that is bull shit. If you don't have a solution, don't say you will. I am extremely disappointed with several "top companies" who have refused to make ANY comment whatsoever regarding 2257. At least have the courtesy to tell your affiliates to pucker up before pounding them in the ass. COMMUNICATION IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED! I realize models privacy is a huge concern, I understand that. All I'm asking for is communication. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

06-22-2005, 12:46 PM	#20
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	still waiting for official word.

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06-22-2005, 03:35 PM	#23
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	We made an announcement a long time ago saying we will provide proven affiliates with all of the required records. We have been working with individual affiliates to meet their needs, but I will make another summary post to let everyone know what we are doing for them.

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