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|  06-21-2005, 12:53 AM | #1 | 
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				Nastydollars 2257 Announcement
			 Nastydollars 2257 Announcement: We have been consulting with our lawyers and feel that we have addressed all legal concerns for ourselves and our webmasters. Below is a breakdown of issues that are pertinent to the new 2257 regs. Bad News: 1. We have audited all of our content for records and ids. Please make sure that all content you are using on your domains is consistent with the content available in the nastydollars content area on 6/23/05. 2. Explicit Banners - If you are using explicit banners and have not identified the updates and models used to create the banners we recommend that you replace them with softcore banners or remove them. 3. NDHosting will be taken down on June 22, 2005 4. 2257 Records - 2257 records must be kept at primary and secondary producer's place of business. NastyDollars will provide these records to U.S. webmasters in 256 bit aes encrypted format. With these records on your computer, our counsel feels, that you will be compliant with this regulatory specification. We will provide a 24/7 phone number so that upon an investigation you may contact us and immediately receive the necessary decryption keys. More information is available at ND2257.com Good News: 1. Hardcore content is still available for promotion 2. We have introduced a new, hosted, softcore banner management system. Webmasters will not need to worry about changing out banners anymore for their sites or 2257 regs with this system. Check out NDbanners.com 3. All NDhosting links will re-direct to allsitesaccess and credit your webmaster account. 4. We will be increasing the number of free hosted galleries that we produce weekly. Really Really Good News: NDFreehost.com - The next generation in free hosting. How about not worrying about 2257 regs? How about free bandwidth for pic and movie galleries? How about no more uploading one file at a time to a free host? Then this is for you... Simply make a gallery, zip it up and upload it to our server. Our administrators will verify that the content is ours and the gallery will go live onto our server farm. You will get an email of the location and you are good to go! Check out ndfreehost.com for more info (uploads go live the 22nd). Any questions email [email protected]  | 
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|  06-21-2005, 12:54 AM | #2 | 
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|  06-21-2005, 12:55 AM | #3 | 
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				 |  !, 
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|  06-21-2005, 12:58 AM | #4 | 
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|  06-21-2005, 12:59 AM | #5 | 
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				 | nice   ... | 
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|  06-21-2005, 12:59 AM | #6 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 12:59 AM | #7 | 
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				 | Sounds good    | 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:04 AM | #8 | |
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 it's their interpretation possibly not the ultimate solution  just some food for thought ;) | |
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|  06-21-2005, 01:07 AM | #9 | 
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				 | thanks ND | 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:08 AM | #10 | 
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				 | Good to hear Nasty's plan for 2257.  All the best. 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:10 AM | #11 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 01:13 AM | #12 | 
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				 | thanks for the info it seems like a decent solution | 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:13 AM | #13 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 01:13 AM | #14 | 
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				 | Wow... ND raises the bar again.  Would we expect anything less? I think NOT! | 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:13 AM | #15 | 
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				 | Nasty Dollars continues to innovate.   | 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:14 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Heh thats a clever idea.. giving the webmasters the models i.d. encrypted so only law enforcement can read it .. 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:16 AM | #17 | 
| ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer 
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				 | Will your fhg's be affected at all ? or the hotlinkeable fhg thumbs ? 
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|  06-21-2005, 01:25 AM | #18 | |
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 In fact, once all the other sponsors verify this a valid method of complying with 2257, I believe they will all copy Nastydollars. | |
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|  06-21-2005, 01:29 AM | #19 | |
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 What's new?  | |
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|  06-21-2005, 01:55 AM | #20 | 
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				 | nice but damn the free hosted part both sucks and blows.. oh well 
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|  06-21-2005, 02:03 AM | #21 | 
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				 | clever idea with the encryption, everyone will copy it now | 
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|  06-21-2005, 02:19 AM | #22 | 
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				 | A pass protected zip file is what I have been doing.  Though encryption is much better. Wish I would of thought of that.   Good stuff ND!!! | 
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|  06-21-2005, 02:28 AM | #23 | 
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				 | I notice on the pdf application form for 2257 docs it says "only for u.s. webmasters" does this mean only americans HAVE to use it or only americans will get access to the 2257 docs ? 
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|  06-21-2005, 02:53 AM | #24 | 
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				 | Thumbs up for your encryption idea! | 
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|  06-21-2005, 03:00 AM | #25 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 03:04 AM | #26 | 
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				 | Great Idea  encrypting the ID's   I proposed that also  its a great idea!  I wouldnt be surprised if there were a dozen webmaster program already done with this same type of encryption | 
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|  06-21-2005, 03:08 AM | #27 | 
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				 | best solution I have seen so far I think... props to ND! 
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|  06-21-2005, 03:31 AM | #28 | 
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				 | Just in time    
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|  06-21-2005, 03:49 AM | #29 | 
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				 | I'm sorry,but what about not US webmaster with sites hosted on US hosting? As far as i understand nastydollars doesn't consider us,and i'm asking myself why?  | 
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|  06-21-2005, 04:34 AM | #30 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 04:55 AM | #31 | 
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				 | good move | 
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|  06-21-2005, 07:57 AM | #33 | 
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				 | Excellent job guys, I think you've covered all the angles here.  But then again, that's to be expected from you guys    | 
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|  06-21-2005, 08:00 AM | #34 | 
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				 | i was kinda worried at first, but after reading that all the way though, great job! 
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|  06-21-2005, 08:01 AM | #35 | 
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				 | That is a very cool solution for the id's, great work! 
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|  06-21-2005, 08:08 AM | #36 | 
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				 | very good to see | 
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|  06-21-2005, 08:09 AM | #37 | |
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 NastyDollars Rocks  | |
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|  06-21-2005, 08:19 AM | #38 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 08:25 AM | #39 | 
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				 | good news   
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|  06-21-2005, 08:42 AM | #40 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 09:18 AM | #41 | |
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 I'm not saying it is wrong that way, but that could also be very problematic in certain situations: - If you have the feds visiting you - 100 sponsors you have to call - key for EACH model - both male and female models .... that would cost a lot of time and money, and its risky. - Probably ND will stay in biz, but what about smaller programs? Will they provide all keys if they stop or be instant available 4 years later? ; if you post a gallery in 2006, the program stops in 2008... according to the law, the feds can visit you, lets say in 2009 and request ID verification for something you posted 3 years ago. Privacy vs trust is a dilemma.  | |
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|  06-21-2005, 09:27 AM | #42 | |
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 same goes for the topbucks solution btw extremepaychecks has done one of the most secure one for its webmasters yet. Not having 100% correct, accessable and 100% fully working docs in your office is way to unsecure to my mind | |
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|  06-21-2005, 10:19 AM | #43 | |
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 Read page 29621 of the Federal Registry, paragraph 4. "At the conclusion of an inspection, the investigator may informally advise the producer of any apparent violations disclosed by the inspection. The producer may bring to the attention of the investigator any pertinent information regarding the records inspected or any other relevant matter". The application of the law is not going to be that the feds walk in the door find the first violation and handcuff you. No, what will happen is a painstaking toss of your records and this will take time. In our case, we have over 20,000 ids and I seriously doubt an investigator can properly review our records in one day or maybe even one week. The process gives you plenty of time to contact the program for the hash key to decrypt. The Feds have provisions in the law that allow for producers to have ample opportunity to show their compliance. Having a corrupted zip file that can be cured with a non corrupted one will never result in prison sentences. Calling for the hash key as well will be perfectly fine with the investigators, it only takes minutes and they will already be busy looking over your other files. | |
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|  06-21-2005, 10:20 AM | #44 | 
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				 | good one. Maybe too late for me, I took down most of my galleries. 
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|  06-21-2005, 10:26 AM | #45 | 
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				 | One more thing. We also came to the conclusion that encypted or password protected ids are ok. Please show me where in the regulations this is forbidden. In our eyes this is no different than if we delivered paper copies of 20,000 ids to an affiliate and he then locked the docs in a safe. The feds arrive and an employee calls "Hey boss i need the combination to the safe to get our docs out". Protecting the ids with encryption or a safe is something I would do as an affiliate regardless of how the ids were delivered to me. Having them wide open and available with no protection at all smacks of negligence and a lack of reasonable care and affiliates need to be also concerned about model litigation over the handling of their confidential information. | 
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|  06-21-2005, 10:27 AM | #46 | |
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 good points you bring up, i am too sexy for jail | |
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|  06-21-2005, 10:27 AM | #47 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 11:42 AM | #49 | |
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 The data must be cross referenced and indexed. Perhaps, we can do this while the feds wait in another room sipping some coffee? This idea is a workaround to the regulations. Albeit a 'legal' one. Regulators missed to specify how data must be kept or they would have mentioned 'not encrypted'. I do respect ND as much as anyone else here but any personal decision regarding 2257 must be carefully thought out under legal guidance. | |
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|  06-21-2005, 11:51 AM | #50 | |
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 Good analogy and seems to make legal sense to me. WG 
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