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  • nastyman
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 128

    #1

    Nastydollars 2257 Announcement

    Nastydollars 2257 Announcement:

    We have been consulting with our lawyers and feel that we have addressed all legal concerns for ourselves and our webmasters. Below is a breakdown of issues that are pertinent to the new 2257 regs.


    Bad News:

    1. We have audited all of our content for records and ids. Please make sure that all content you are using on your domains is consistent with the content available in the nastydollars content area on 6/23/05.

    2. Explicit Banners - If you are using explicit banners and have not identified the updates and models used to create the banners we recommend that you replace them with softcore banners or remove them.

    3. NDHosting will be taken down on June 22, 2005

    4. 2257 Records - 2257 records must be kept at primary and secondary producer's place of business. NastyDollars will provide these records to U.S. webmasters in 256 bit aes encrypted format. With these records on your computer, our counsel feels, that you will be compliant with this regulatory specification. We will provide a 24/7 phone number so that upon an investigation you may contact us and immediately receive the necessary decryption keys. More information is available at ND2257.com



    Good News:

    1. Hardcore content is still available for promotion

    2. We have introduced a new, hosted, softcore banner management system. Webmasters will not need to worry about changing out banners anymore for their sites or 2257 regs with this system. Check out NDbanners.com

    3. All NDhosting links will re-direct to allsitesaccess and credit your webmaster account.

    4. We will be increasing the number of free hosted galleries that we produce weekly.


    Really Really Good News:

    NDFreehost.com - The next generation in free hosting.
    How about not worrying about 2257 regs? How about free bandwidth for pic and movie galleries? How about no more uploading one file at a time to a free host? Then this is for you...

    Simply make a gallery, zip it up and upload it to our server. Our administrators will verify that the content is ours and the gallery will go live onto our server farm. You will get an email of the location and you are good to go! Check out ndfreehost.com for more info (uploads go live the 22nd).


    Any questions email [email protected]
  • SomeCreep
    :glugglug
    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #2

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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94733

      #3
      !,

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      • WebGod
        Registered User
        • Jun 2005
        • 12

        #4
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        • Trax
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          • Aug 2001
          • 14486

          #5
          nice ...

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          • SomeCreep
            :glugglug
            • Mar 2003
            • 26118

            #6
            Originally posted by nastyman
            4. 2257 Records - 2257 records must be kept at primary and secondary producer's place of business. NastyDollars will provide these records to U.S. webmasters in 256 bit aes encrypted format. With these records on your computer, our counsel feels, that you will be compliant with this regulatory specification. We will provide a 24/7 phone number so that upon an investigation you may contact us and immediately receive the necessary decryption keys. More information is available at ND2257.com
            Interesting solution there. I like it. All sponsors should be doing that to ensure their models privacy.

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            • xxxice
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 5042

              #7
              Sounds good

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              • Trax
                [----------------------]
                • Aug 2001
                • 14486

                #8
                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                Interesting solution there. I like it. All sponsors should be doing that to ensure their models privacy.
                remember: their "counsel feels"
                it's their interpretation
                possibly not the ultimate solution
                just some food for thought ;)

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                • TDF
                  Triple OG nigga on GFY
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 27296

                  #9
                  thanks ND
                  Sig heil

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                  • The Ghost
                    IslandDollars.com
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 12188

                    #10
                    Good to hear Nasty's plan for 2257. All the best.
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                    • Dirty Dane
                      Sick Fuck
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 9491

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                      Interesting solution there. I like it. All sponsors should be doing that to ensure their models privacy.
                      Yes, it may reduce it. However assholes can just call and say they need the key. And it need to valid for 7 years, even if someone stop promoting.
                      Last edited by Dirty Dane; 06-21-2005, 12:11 AM.

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                      • xclusive
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 35218

                        #12
                        thanks for the info it seems like a decent solution

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                        • SomeCreep
                          :glugglug
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 26118

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                          Yes, it may reduce it. However assholes can just call and say they need the key. And it need to valid for 7 years.
                          I imagine Nastydollars would verify there was an actual investigation which warranted the key, before just giving it out based on the webmaster's word.

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                          • V_RocKs
                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32449

                            #14
                            Wow... ND raises the bar again.

                            Would we expect anything less? I think NOT!

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                            • Mr.Fiction
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 9484

                              #15
                              Nasty Dollars continues to innovate.
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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #16
                                Heh thats a clever idea.. giving the webmasters the models i.d. encrypted so only law enforcement can read it ..
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 28609

                                  #17
                                  Will your fhg's be affected at all ? or the hotlinkeable fhg thumbs ?
                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                  • SomeCreep
                                    :glugglug
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 26118

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                    Heh thats a clever idea.. giving the webmasters the models i.d. encrypted so only law enforcement can read it ..
                                    Indeed.

                                    In fact, once all the other sponsors verify this a valid method of complying with 2257, I believe they will all copy Nastydollars.

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                                    • Mr.Fiction
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 9484

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                      I believe they will all copy Nastydollars.
                                      Other sponsors copying Nasty Dollars?

                                      What's new?
                                      Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                      • Turf
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 1865

                                        #20
                                        nice but damn the free hosted part both sucks and blows.. oh well
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                                        • bigdog
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6964

                                          #21
                                          clever idea with the encryption, everyone will copy it now

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                                          • DWB
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 31779

                                            #22
                                            A pass protected zip file is what I have been doing. Though encryption is much better. Wish I would of thought of that. Good stuff ND!!!

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #23
                                              I notice on the pdf application form for 2257 docs it says "only for u.s. webmasters" does this mean only americans HAVE to use it or only americans will get access to the 2257 docs ?
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 4325

                                                #24
                                                Thumbs up for your encryption idea!

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                                                • WiredGuy
                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 34512

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by nastyman
                                                  4. 2257 Records - 2257 records must be kept at primary and secondary producer's place of business. NastyDollars will provide these records to U.S. webmasters in 256 bit aes encrypted format. With these records on your computer, our counsel feels, that you will be compliant with this regulatory specification. We will provide a 24/7 phone number so that upon an investigation you may contact us and immediately receive the necessary decryption keys. More information is available at ND2257.com
                                                  That's a great solution, props to whomever thought of this idea.
                                                  WG
                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                  • Tanker
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2000
                                                    • 9287

                                                    #26
                                                    Great Idea encrypting the ID's I proposed that also its a great idea! I wouldnt be surprised if there were a dozen webmaster program already done with this same type of encryption

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                                                    • pradaboy
                                                      sell me your banners
                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 12931

                                                      #27
                                                      best solution I have seen so far I think... props to ND!
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                                                        • PaulC
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 10

                                                          #29
                                                          I'm sorry,but what about not US webmaster with sites hosted on US hosting?
                                                          As far as i understand nastydollars doesn't consider us,and i'm asking myself why?

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                                                          • Rui
                                                            web
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 9533

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bigdog
                                                            clever idea with the encryption, everyone will copy it now
                                                            indeed...excellent idea

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                                                            • wjxxx
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 4448

                                                              #31
                                                              good move

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                                                              • SinisterStudios
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 3087

                                                                #32
                                                                Awesome idea guys, exactly what id expect from nasty dollars. Let the copycats begin
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                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 16015

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Excellent job guys, I think you've covered all the angles here. But then again, that's to be expected from you guys

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                                                                  • BukkakeBrown
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 734

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i was kinda worried at first, but after reading that all the way though, great job!
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                                                                    • GweedZilla
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                      • 549

                                                                      #35
                                                                      That is a very cool solution for the id's, great work!
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                                                                      • Satisfaction
                                                                        WootWootCash.com
                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 10900

                                                                        #36
                                                                        very good to see

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                                                                        • Shap
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 8313

                                                                          #37
                                                                          NDFreehost.com - The next generation in free hosting.
                                                                          How about not worrying about 2257 regs? How about free bandwidth for pic and movie galleries? How about no more uploading one file at a time to a free host? Then this is for you...

                                                                          Simply make a gallery, zip it up and upload it to our server. Our administrators will verify that the content is ours and the gallery will go live onto our server farm. You will get an email of the location and you are good to go! Check out ndfreehost.com for more info (uploads go live the 22nd).
                                                                          NICE this is something we've been working on. Without a doubt the only way to go with freehosting.

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                                                                          • Daymare
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 2674

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by PaulC
                                                                            I'm sorry,but what about not US webmaster with sites hosted on US hosting?
                                                                            As far as i understand nastydollars doesn't consider us,and i'm asking myself why?
                                                                            hosts are not responsible. so don't worry.

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                                                                            • BrainCash JF
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 81

                                                                              #39
                                                                              good news
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                                                                              • Lensman
                                                                                GFY Chaperone
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 9846

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by nastyman
                                                                                We will provide a 24/7 phone number so that upon an investigation you may contact us and immediately receive the necessary decryption keys.
                                                                                And if no one answers, or the keys don't work, or the files are corrupt, can you say prison? I wouldn't want the feds to knock on my door and all I have are a bunch of files I cannot read.

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                                                                                • Dirty Dane
                                                                                  Sick Fuck
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 9491

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                  Indeed.

                                                                                  In fact, once all the other sponsors verify this a valid method of complying with 2257, I believe they will all copy Nastydollars.
                                                                                  Except from trying to kill the industry, the new regulations about 'secondary producers' are designed for a preventive effect too; the affiliates now have to verify that the models they promote, really ARE legal. I don't know, but if you look at the past, beeing affiliate and use promo content, involved trusting the paysite owner that the content was legal. Its quite obvious that this way of trust is not good enough for the lawmakers anymore. So would encrypting the data be a valid method then? Time will show.

                                                                                  I'm not saying it is wrong that way, but that could also be very problematic in certain situations:
                                                                                  - If you have the feds visiting you - 100 sponsors you have to call - key for EACH model - both male and female models .... that would cost a lot of time and money, and its risky.
                                                                                  - Probably ND will stay in biz, but what about smaller programs? Will they provide all keys if they stop or be instant available 4 years later? ; if you post a gallery in 2006, the program stops in 2008... according to the law, the feds can visit you, lets say in 2009 and request ID verification for something you posted 3 years ago.

                                                                                  Privacy vs trust is a dilemma.

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                                                                                  • Trax
                                                                                    [----------------------]
                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                    • 14486

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                    And if no one answers, or the keys don't work, or the files are corrupt, can you say prison? I wouldn't want the feds to knock on my door and all I have are a bunch of files I cannot read.
                                                                                    yep.. we are thinking the same way here
                                                                                    same goes for the topbucks solution btw
                                                                                    extremepaychecks has done one of the most secure one for its webmasters yet. Not having 100% correct, accessable and 100% fully working docs in your office is way to unsecure to my mind

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                                                                                    • scoreman
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 1491

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                      And if no one answers, or the keys don't work, or the files are corrupt, can you say prison? I wouldn't want the feds to knock on my door and all I have are a bunch of files I cannot read.
                                                                                      I disagree.

                                                                                      Read page 29621 of the Federal Registry, paragraph 4.

                                                                                      "At the conclusion of an inspection, the investigator may informally advise the producer of any apparent violations disclosed by the inspection. The producer may bring to the attention of the investigator any pertinent information regarding the records inspected or any other relevant matter".

                                                                                      The application of the law is not going to be that the feds walk in the door find the first violation and handcuff you. No, what will happen is a painstaking toss of your records and this will take time. In our case, we have over 20,000 ids and I seriously doubt an investigator can properly review our records in one day or maybe even one week. The process gives you plenty of time to contact the program for the hash key to decrypt.

                                                                                      The Feds have provisions in the law that allow for producers to have ample opportunity to show their compliance. Having a corrupted zip file that can be cured with a non corrupted one will never result in prison sentences. Calling for the hash key as well will be perfectly fine with the investigators, it only takes minutes and they will already be busy looking over your other files.

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                                                                                      • FilthyRob
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 6741

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        good one. Maybe too late for me, I took down most of my galleries.
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                                                                                        • scoreman
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                          • 1491

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          One more thing. We also came to the conclusion that encypted or password protected ids are ok. Please show me where in the regulations this is forbidden. In our eyes this is no different than if we delivered paper copies of 20,000 ids to an affiliate and he then locked the docs in a safe. The feds arrive and an employee calls "Hey boss i need the combination to the safe to get our docs out".

                                                                                          Protecting the ids with encryption or a safe is something I would do as an affiliate regardless of how the ids were delivered to me. Having them wide open and available with no protection at all smacks of negligence and a lack of reasonable care and affiliates need to be also concerned about model litigation over the handling of their confidential information.

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                                                                                          • bigdog
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 6964

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                            And if no one answers, or the keys don't work, or the files are corrupt, can you say prison? I wouldn't want the feds to knock on my door and all I have are a bunch of files I cannot read.

                                                                                            good points you bring up, i am too sexy for jail

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                                                                                            • Pipecrew
                                                                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                              • 14888

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by scoreman
                                                                                              One more thing. We also came to the conclusion that encypted or password protected ids are ok. Please show me where in the regulations this is forbidden. In our eyes this is no different than if we delivered paper copies of 20,000 ids to an affiliate and he then locked the docs in a safe. The feds arrive and an employee calls "Hey boss i need the combination to the safe to get our docs out".

                                                                                              Protecting the ids with encryption or a safe is something I would do as an affiliate regardless of how the ids were delivered to me. Having them wide open and available with no protection at all smacks of negligence and a lack of reasonable care and affiliates need to be also concerned about model litigation over the handling of their confidential information.
                                                                                              Exactly.

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                                                                                              • rockbear
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 806

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                I notice on the pdf application form for 2257 docs it says "only for u.s. webmasters" does this mean only americans HAVE to use it or only americans will get access to the 2257 docs ?
                                                                                                Bump for you

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                                                                                                • hy777
                                                                                                  I have 6 credit cards, each buying 1 trial a day
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 56

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                  And if no one answers, or the keys don't work, or the files are corrupt, can you say prison? I wouldn't want the feds to knock on my door and all I have are a bunch of files I cannot read.
                                                                                                  or... files that you can't really use.

                                                                                                  The data must be cross referenced and indexed. Perhaps, we can do this while the feds wait in another room sipping some coffee?

                                                                                                  This idea is a workaround to the regulations. Albeit a 'legal' one. Regulators missed to specify how data must be kept or they would have mentioned 'not encrypted'. I do respect ND as much as anyone else here but any personal decision regarding 2257 must be carefully thought out under legal guidance.

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                                                                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 34512

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by scoreman
                                                                                                    One more thing. We also came to the conclusion that encypted or password protected ids are ok. Please show me where in the regulations this is forbidden. In our eyes this is no different than if we delivered paper copies of 20,000 ids to an affiliate and he then locked the docs in a safe. The feds arrive and an employee calls "Hey boss i need the combination to the safe to get our docs out".

                                                                                                    Protecting the ids with encryption or a safe is something I would do as an affiliate regardless of how the ids were delivered to me. Having them wide open and available with no protection at all smacks of negligence and a lack of reasonable care and affiliates need to be also concerned about model litigation over the handling of their confidential information.

                                                                                                    Good analogy and seems to make legal sense to me.
                                                                                                    WG
                                                                                                    I play with Google.

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