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Ray@TastyDollars 06-20-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip
Thanks Ray...

But I've already been on the phone with MVC and wasted enough time trying to get things in working order. If MVC can't fix their shit, I doubt that you will be able to do it for them.

It seems to me like you're not interested in the business that you are losing and might potentially lose as well.

The solution to your 3 month minimum would be to allow people to purchase a ONE TIME - ONE MONTH pass to test it out. THEN...you can force us to buy in three month blocks.

YOU ARE losing business here, if you care...why not do something about it?

I offer to help you and you say "I doubt that you will be able to do it for them"

"why not do something about it" why not try contacting me?

fris 06-20-2005 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shortbread
To be honest, I was submitting there for free for awhile and maybe got one sale/month IF THAT. It's not worth the money in my opinion. :2 cents:

my galleries got approved automatically when i had a partner way back too. i didnt notice much sales if it all. i must agree with you too.

partners on submit pass i would definately go with are video post, elephant list. are for sure. thats quality traffic

Ray@TastyDollars 06-20-2005 09:24 PM

For those of you who dont know how to conatct me :winkwink:

www.submitpasses.com/contact.htm
Contact form come to my email first.

and

www.nichespots.com/contact.htm
Im Ray hehe

Ray@TastyDollars 06-20-2005 09:32 PM

Alright bed time. Hit me up tomorrow guys and we will solve all your problems...as we always do.

Peace

candyflip 06-20-2005 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray
I offer to help you and you say "I doubt that you will be able to do it for them"

"why not do something about it" why not try contacting me?

Listen man...I'm not trying to be an asshole, but it seems that you're not listening here. I've exhausted all avenues with MVC and am not willing to pay 3 month in advance to test something out.

If you have another solution, please let us all know. I'll drop you a line tomorrow, and hope we can get this squared away.

YOU ARE LOSING MONEY, even if 1000 people have purchased passes since you guys got up and running.

candyflip 06-20-2005 09:45 PM

Email sent Ray.

Looking forward to seeing what you can do for me tomorrow.

Thanks.

alan-l 06-20-2005 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray
Alan, every time we make a post there is some negativity coming from you. First off, if you have a problem with one of our sites, your not suppose to contact the owner directly, you contact us. Im still waiting for your email from the first time you bitched me out here. Email me and NOT Xnxx and we WILL help you solve your problem.

You keep insulting our operation, saying its crap...I think you even called us thieves once..or something to that affect. You want a refund? Id be more than glad to give one.

Ray

Ray, as I've said is nothing against you, is not negativity, but telling what's going on. However, we did contact you, you told us by mail to contact the TGP owner (I didn't mention the TGP btw, it was you) and so we did. And he told that to our guy, which I must say sounded really weird, because what if I use the 3 months, get a lot of hits and then ask for a refund? Of course, just in case you don't remind it we kept all the mails, including those were you told our guy to contact the TGP owner himself.

Anyway, I don't see the negativity here, I'm saying I WOULD buy more passes if you had a one month option to avoid things like those that happened. Nothing else. Since MVC is not an option (it doesn't work 90% of times) I just asked for that. If PURCHASING your services and ASKING FOR MORE is negative for your business, then I don't know what you call positive :(

Either way, this is not bitching, if you want to refund us to be sure we don't use that submit pass (we even told you to move the funds to any other pass 2 or 3 weeks ago) that's cool. If this bothered you, sorry, but you gotta understand we're not saying this to bash you, just giving you some suggestions to improve your service. Maybe I didn't say enough times (just 3 or 4 in a single post) how much I like your service and how convenient I find it :winkwink:

Anyway, the 3 months question remains, we've been fucked by another company selling passes (not submit passes before you start with the "negativity" thing), we didn't like the output of this 3 months commitment, so it's unlikely we'll buy more passes if they're 3 months ahead. Now, if we can buy 1 month to test... that's a different story, we'd buy a lot. As you can see, this must be the most productive "negative" post you've ever seen :winkwink:

btw, don't get too paranoid, how would I be giving you money if I think you're a thief? You gotta work on that :winkwink:

Now chill out and if you don't want to take my suggestions, that's cool, it was just my 2 cents, not an imposition. And if you want us to contact you once again, no problem

and a "negative" toast :drinkup :pimp

alan-l 06-20-2005 10:30 PM

and I did use a lot of smilies to graphically reinforce the meaning of my words! :warning :winkwink: :thumbsup :2 cents: :pimp

HairToStay 06-21-2005 05:01 AM

Went to see the site, clicked on a hairy movie, and ended up at a Lolita MPEG site.

Not a good thing.

adonthenet 06-21-2005 05:03 AM

looks good guys.

justsexxx 06-21-2005 05:05 AM

WOJ sucks

Michael O 06-21-2005 05:26 AM

The problem I have with buying a 3 month pass is that if the galleries I make don't get listed cause the reviewer don't like my style of galleries then I would have wasted three times the money.

If you don't want to give a one month trial or permanent payment solution that works instead of MVC fine its your decision. If its to much work for you why not charge $5 extra for monthly passes?

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
The problem I have with buying a 3 month pass is that if the galleries I make don't get listed cause the reviewer don't like my style of galleries then I would have wasted three times the money.

If you don't want to give a one month trial or permanent payment solution that works instead of MVC fine its your decision. If its to much work for you why not charge $5 extra for monthly passes?

Please use our online contact form and I will reply to you within 3 hours.

thx,
Ray

nophest 06-21-2005 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alan-l
Ray, in all honesty, I'm all for your service.

BUT...

The 3 months in advance is just crap. We had some trouble with one of your passes and I feel like we lost 300 dollars, simply as that.


The problem is you don't understand the system. Let's say you have paid for one month and you are getting 'only' 2k a day.

That's 60k a month.... bad isn't it? not! because you are listed permanently, so multiply this number by 12 at least.

Now we have the real traffic numbers : 720k per year.
I have many galleries that have been listed for over 3 years. That's millions of hits for a ONE TIME CHARGE (1 month, you don't have to pay every month to remain listed), and those are only numbers with your few starting posts.

I said we would refund you after 3 months if you are not satisfied, because I'm sure you would have been satisfied. After 3 months of posting you would be getting much more than 2k a day from XNXX.

Many partners are getting over 100k a day actually.

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nophest

I said we would refund you after 3 months if you are not satisfied, because I'm sure you would have been satisfied. After 3 months of posting you would be getting much more than 2k a day from XNXX.

Many partners are getting over 100k a day actually.

Thanks Nophest.

We sent out a request to accounting. His Total amount will be refunded to his Epassporte account. Please delete his pass.

thx,
Ray

Michael O 06-21-2005 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray
Please use our online contact form and I will reply to you within 3 hours.

thx,
Ray

Just a suggestion.
Every time you add a sponsor you post about it here so expect people to ask questions and critique your program here aswell.

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Just a suggestion.
Every time you add a sponsor you post about it here so expect people to ask questions and critique your program here aswell.

And I've answerd all of then. If you have any special requests, as you obviously do, you must use our contact form. Simple.

Ray

A™ Machine 06-21-2005 08:29 AM

whats up with this whole contact form BS????
Dude are you too stupid to see that you are losing biz by directing everyone that asks you a question to your fucking contact form?

Pornopat 06-21-2005 09:47 AM

I just bought one to try.

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A? Machine
whats up with this whole contact form BS????
Dude are you too stupid to see that you are losing biz by directing everyone that asks you a question to your fucking contact form?

Im stupid? LOL, I replied to that 3 month question prolly ten times over..now wtf more do you want from me? Yea, we are losing allot of biz..we been sold out for weeks now. Gimme a fucking break will yea.

Month to month option with MVC: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month Epassporte oprion: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month wire option: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month Credit card auth option: NOT good enough?

I never refused to sell anyone a trial unless we were sold out. If anyone wants a god damn trial use the form and ASK me. Simple huh?

Ray

Rui 06-21-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray
Im stupid? LOL, I replied to that 3 month question prolly ten times over..now wtf more do you want from me? Yea, we are losing allot of biz..we been sold out for weeks now. Gimme a fucking break will yea.

Month to month option with MVC: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month Epassporte oprion: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month wire option: NOT good enough?
3, 6 and 12 month Credit card auth option: NOT good enough?

I never refused to sell anyone a trial unless we were sold out. If anyone wants a god damn trial use the form and ASK me. Simple huh?

Ray

Don't take this as a "put down" comment but more like constructive feedback

You beeing the midle-man in this operation are surely aware that there are many variables that can result in sending the 3 month money to the trash.

The concept of having 1 month trial with a viable payment solution (why not Paycom or CCBILL if you don't want to offer it via ePass) is very very very very needed.

If it was offered you would surely have another customer (+1 that beeing me)

All the best

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
The concept of having 1 month trial with a viable payment solution (why not Paycom or CCBILL if you don't want to offer it via ePass) is very very very very needed.

They charge 15+%, We'd basically work for free and not to mention the "Failed Purchase" rate with MVC is well under 5% for us, im willing to bet thats allllot better than with the two mentioned above.

Nothing more I can do guys, our payment methods are available online. For those who need more options, sorry. If anyone would like a motnh trial, please request one online and we will see if we could get you one.

thx,
Ray

rhizome 06-21-2005 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui
If it was offered you would surely have another customer (+1 that beeing me)

You're not needed; GTS has been sold out for weeks and always will be.

Rui 06-21-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rhizome
You're not needed; GTS has been sold out for weeks and always will be.

Spoken like a true businessman...

Ray - already have you added will get in touch with you soon.

candyflip 06-21-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray
They charge 15+%, We'd basically work for free and not to mention the "Failed Purchase" rate with MVC is well under 5% for us, im willing to bet thats allllot better than with the two mentioned above.

Nothing more I can do guys, our payment methods are available online. For those who need more options, sorry. If anyone would like a motnh trial, please request one online and we will see if we could get you one.

thx,
Ray

Your failed purchase rate is probably only at 5% because there are a lot of charges that aren't even going thru from MVC...so you're not even seeing them.

I have had multiple banks/cc companies tell me that they're not even seeing the attempt to charge from MVC.

If it was one person complaining, I'd brush them off too...but there are a number of people here in this thread.

Not one of us has attacked you, but you're coming off as being pretty defensive and abrasive.

And now that I know you're secrect, I don't see why not make mention of it here in the thread instead of beating around the bush. :winkwink:

Ray@TastyDollars 06-21-2005 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
Your failed purchase rate is probably only at 5% because there are a lot of charges that aren't even going thru from MVC...so you're not even seeing them.

I have had multiple banks/cc companies tell me that they're not even seeing the attempt to charge from MVC.

If it was one person complaining, I'd brush them off too...but there are a number of people here in this thread.

Not one of us has attacked you, but you're coming off as being pretty defensive and abrasive.

And now that I know you're secrect, I don't see why not make mention of it here in the thread instead of beating around the bush. :winkwink:

My "secret" needs not apply to you anymore. Use our online forms to buy a pass.

Agressve huh? Ive been called a thief, stupid and an idiot because your worthless credit cards are flagged for fraud protection. So, for all you who wish to bust my balls, stop your crying and go buy your passes some where else.

Ray


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