ufc 53

[animal mother]

dig tells me there's some mma fans here. anyone watch this event?

Nick Diaz def Koji Oishi KO

diaz is a stud and a future ufc poster boy. oishi needs to head back to shooto immediately. he's horrible.


David Loiseau def Charles McCarthy TKO (Back Kick)

"chainsaw" was game but he was outclassed by "the crow". if you haven't seen the back kick that spelled the beginning of the end, do so. guaranteed you will wince. chainsaw took this flying knee right after:




Nathan Quarry def Shonie Carter TKO

quarry showed a bit of what he couldn't due to the injury he suffered on TUF. impressive debut.


Paul Buentello def Kevin Jordan Submission (Guillotine Choke)

buentello didn't look quite as good as he did when he made eilers do the "flair flop" but he got the job done. he's got a date with arlovski in his near future.


Forrest def Griffin Bill Mahood Submission (Rear Naked Choke)

mahood is a bum and all of canada should be embarrassed (even more than usual). good night for the TUF guys. dana is happy.


Rich Franklin def Evan Tanner TKO (Doctor Stoppage)

for the middleweight (185) title. tanner got absolutely mauled. franklin, coming off his brutal tko victory over ken shamrock, is primed for stardom. tanner looked like a slightly less grotesque rocky dennis when all was said and done and he wasn't exactly handsome to begin with. this is what happens when white guys get cornrows. god goes old testament on them.




Karo Parisyan def Matt Serra Decision

if you like the ground game this was the fight for you. serra has sick bjj and karo is a judo stud. karo's natural size advantage ended up being the difference.


Andrei Arlovski def Justin Eilers TKO

eilers takes about 500 legkicks in 4 minutes before blowing out his ACL. he was going out on a stretcher one way or another. the ufc needs mir to heal quickly because the HW division is awful.

[CybermedAndy]

Entertaining show overall...

Bit anticlimatic with Eilers blowing out his knee unfortunately

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by animal mother

if you haven't seen the back kick that spelled the beginning of the end, do so. guaranteed you will wince

[SilverTab]

I'm downloading it

can't wait to see Loiseau's fight!

Liddell Vs. Couture pt2 was great!

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by SilverTab

Liddell Vs. Couture pt2 was great!

great if you're a liddell mark. for those of us in attendance it was quite a letdown. not necessarily the outcome (i like both fighters) but the brevity. i wanted a 5-round war.

both are scheduled to go for ufc 54. chuck's getting jeremy horn and randy's getting mike van arsdale (fresh off a win over john marsh). if both win expect the rubber match at 56.

[gecko]

I thought it was okay..

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by animal mother

wow this could be a signature

[Vitasoy]

My buddy taped it, was able to catch it last night..

[dunefield]

ufc is crud... crap fighters... watch pride...

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by dunefield

ufc is crud... crap fighters... watch pride...

i do watch pride and prefer the rules (soccer kicks, stomps to the face, etc.), plus i'm a huge silva mark. but to say ufc has crap fighters is asinine. liddell, couture, arlovski, hughes, trigg, st. pierre, babalu, franklin, etc. aren't great fighters? you're either using hyperbole to make a point or have no idea what you're talking about.

[LittleSassy]

nice back kick...totally kicks ass!! wohoo!

[effer]

The spinning back kick was awesome.. the nick diaz fight was a joke before they entered the ring. I miss genki sudo. Cant wait for PRIDE 2nd round. Go Igor!!!

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by animal mother

He leaves a nice indent in the other guys side.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

wow this could be a signature

It is, on alot of mma boards.

[Anthony]

For some of us who frequent the underground, seeing one of our own, "Chainsaw" McCarthy in the big show was a treat.

Yes, he got out fought that night, but he gave Losieu a run for his money when he had his back.

Chainsaw is a FFA fighter, trained by the Avellans. He is one bad motherfucker, and reading his post fight thread on the underground, made me a bigger fan. No excuses, he lost. You don't see too much of that.

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by effer

Go Igor!!!

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by Anthony

For some of us who frequent the underground, seeing one of our own, "Chainsaw" McCarthy in the big show was a treat.

Yes, he got out fought that night, but he gave Losieu a run for his money when he had his back.

Chainsaw is a FFA fighter, trained by the Avellans. He is one bad motherfucker, and reading his post fight thread on the underground, made me a bigger fan. No excuses, he lost. You don't see too much of that.

no question, class act. chainsaw posts on another board i frequent and therefore i was pulling for him. i figured he wasn't quite ready for the crow and i was right. but he's still young and he's now gotten some valuable time in the cage. the value of having experience fighting in front of a big crowd cannot be underestimated.

[TonyL]

Hell yes. I had ringside at 52 for Couture vs. Liddell. My training partner will be making his second appearance in 54.

-Tony

[BukkakeBrown]

that was a damn good PPV...

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by TonyL

Hell yes. I had ringside at 52 for Couture vs. Liddell. My training partner will be making his second appearance in 54.

-Tony

who's your training partner?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by TonyL

Hell yes. I had ringside at 52 for Couture vs. Liddell. My training partner will be making his second appearance in 54.

-Tony

Who's your training partner Tony?

I've been slacking off huge since I hurt my back doing legs. No Jits, no boxing, no lifting weights.

[TonyL]

Trevor Prangley. I help him get ready for fights but im not even close to the same level of fighter he is. I train 5 days a week for MMA but im still no match for him.

-Tony

[dunefield]

Originally Posted by animal mother

i do watch pride and prefer the rules (soccer kicks, stomps to the face, etc.), plus i'm a huge silva mark. but to say ufc has crap fighters is asinine. liddell, couture, arlovski, hughes, trigg, st. pierre, babalu, franklin, etc. aren't great fighters? you're either using hyperbole to make a point or have no idea what you're talking about.

hahaha if you compare ufc's heavyweights to pride's... ufc has no chance... fedor and crop would knock the living shit out of arlovski...

ufc rely too much on liddell and couture since they are running out of fighters to market... maybe they should stick to reality tv...

actually every division of pride is far superior to ufc's... not to mention the crowd that attends ufc are morons... all they want to see are two guys throwing haymakers at each other and start cracking the shits and boo'ing if the fight goes to the floor... not to mention the commentary for ufc absolutely sucks nuts... GO BAS!!!

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by TonyL

Trevor Prangley. I help him get ready for fights but im not even close to the same level of fighter he is. I train 5 days a week for MMA but im still no match for him.

-Tony

I know that feeling. It seems no matter how hard you train, how many hours on the mat, you amount to a pimple on a whale's ass against the real pros. It's a humbling experience.

My first class with Rener Gracie kinda went like that. Still does to this day.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by dunefield

hahaha if you compare ufc's heavyweights to pride's... ufc has no chance... fedor and crop would knock the living shit out of arlovski...

ufc rely too much on liddell and couture since they are running out of fighters to market... maybe they should stick to reality tv...

actually every division of pride is far superior to ufc's... not to mention the crowd that attends ufc are morons... all they want to see are two guys throwing haymakers at each other and start cracking the shits and boo'ing if the fight goes to the floor... not to mention the commentary for ufc absolutely sucks nuts... GO BAS!!!

Pride has better fighters for one reason alone. They get paid the big bucks. It will take time, but UFC will also start getting up there paying the fighters what they are truly worth.

[BukkakeBrown]

cro cop would seriously KILL anyone in UFC

[dunefield]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Pride has better fighters for one reason alone. They get paid the big bucks. It will take time, but UFC will also start getting up there paying the fighters what they are truly worth.

yeah do more reality tv shows and get a bandwagon happening...

[TonyL]

Originally Posted by dunefield

hahaha if you compare ufc's heavyweights to pride's... ufc has no chance... fedor and crop would knock the living shit out of arlovski...

ufc rely too much on liddell and couture since they are running out of fighters to market... maybe they should stick to reality tv...

actually every division of pride is far superior to ufc's... not to mention the crowd that attends ufc are morons... all they want to see are two guys throwing haymakers at each other and start cracking the shits and boo'ing if the fight goes to the floor... not to mention the commentary for ufc absolutely sucks nuts... GO BAS!!!

Pride is definetly more brutal and has a much more educated crowd. It's really irratating to me when people boo the most technical aspect of fighting when the fighters are clenched or on the ground.

Overall I prefer UFC because of the cage. Pride has too much stoppage due to repositioning of the fighters. The cage keeps the action constant and fighting off the cage is an art all in itself.

-Tony

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by dunefield

hahaha if you compare ufc's heavyweights to pride's

no one made any weight class distinctions. everyone knows pride's hw division is better than the ufc's. you said the ufc has "crap fighters" which is patently absurd.

Originally Posted by dunefield

fedor and crop would knock the living shit out of arlovski

seeing as kevin randleman put cro-cop to sleep i don't think you can say with any degree of certainty that he could take out arlovski.

Originally Posted by dunefield

ufc rely too much on liddell and couture since they are running out of fighters to market

that's probably why they keep adding guest coaches with each subsequent season of TUF, to market their current champions.

Originally Posted by dunefield

actually every division of pride is far superior to ufc's...

you mean all two of them? pride has hw and lhw and that's it. i can safely say that ufc has superior welterweights. care to start making some sense?

and having attended quite a few ufc's i can tell you the crowds aren't like they used to be. they cheer the action on the ground and go apeshit for subs.

bas without quadros=shit.

[dunefield]

Originally Posted by animal mother

seeing as kevin randleman put cro-cop to sleep i don't think you can say with any degree of certainty that he could take out arlovski.

you mean all two of them? pride has hw and lhw and that's it. i can safely say that ufc has superior welterweights. care to start making some sense?

bas without quadros=shit.

hahaha every fighter has lost due to a lucky punch... and crocop submitted randleman so easily in the rematch...

errr do you watch bushido? they have a wealth of middleweights, lightweights...

hahaha you actually think bas is a shit commentator? it's quadros who is the one who talks shit...

have you seen the pride middleweight tournament? to say it's only hw and lhw is stupidity

i'd love to see lighter ufc fighters take on gomi...

[dig420]

Originally Posted by dunefield

hahaha every fighter has lost due to a lucky punch... and crocop submitted randleman so easily in the rematch...

errr do you watch bushido? they have a wealth of middleweights, lightweights...

hahaha you actually think bas is a shit commentator? it's quadros who is the one who talks shit...

have you seen the pride middleweight tournament? to say it's only hw and lhw is stupidity

i'd love to see lighter ufc fighters take on gomi...

There's no such thing as a lucky punch. Randleman threw the punch, it landed, crocop got KTFO PERIOD.

[CybermedAndy]

Originally Posted by TonyL

Trevor Prangley. I help him get ready for fights but im not even close to the same level of fighter he is. I train 5 days a week for MMA but im still no match for him.

-Tony

I did a little roll with Prangley before his last UFC fight. Was there with my instructor who's tight with Eric Paulson.

Trevor's and awesome guy, very cool

[sniperwolf]

woooohooo... cool pics...those must have really hurt...

[TonyL]

Originally Posted by AngelDollarsAndy

I did a little roll with Prangley before his last UFC fight. Was there with my instructor who's tight with Eric Paulson.

Trevor's and awesome guy, very cool

Oh nice, small world. Were you at AKA in Cali or at Lions Den in Idaho?

-Tony

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by animal mother

this is what happens when white guys get cornrows. god goes old testament on them.

Too bad I missed, sounded like a great card! Can't wait for the next season of UFC Challenge

[CybermedAndy]

Originally Posted by TonyL

Oh nice, small world. Were you at AKA in Cali or at Lions Den in Idaho?

-Tony

Neither, I train in Victoria Canada with Adam Zugec, one of Paulson's disciples.

Were you with Trevor at UFC 48?

[dunefield]

Originally Posted by dig420

There's no such thing as a lucky punch. Randleman threw the punch, it landed, crocop got KTFO PERIOD.

obviously you don't watch enough fighting...

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by dunefield

obviously you don't watch enough fighting...

I don't know about that son. Dig has almost every Pride Fight that has come out on DVD as well as numerous UFC's and KoC.

He's right, a fight is a fight. A punch is a punch. There's an old boxing saying, a punchers chance.

Maybe you don't do enough fighting to know better.

[TonyL]

Originally Posted by AngelDollarsAndy

Neither, I train in Victoria Canada with Adam Zugec, one of Paulson's disciples.

Were you with Trevor at UFC 48?

No I wasn't with him. I was wondering where you guys rolled at. In Vegas?

-Tony

[dunefield]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I don't know about that son. Dig has almost every Pride Fight that has come out on DVD as well as numerous UFC's and KoC.

He's right, a fight is a fight. A punch is a punch. There's an old boxing saying, a punchers chance.

Maybe you don't do enough fighting to know better.

bahaha you make things seem so black and white... do you really think if randleman fought crocrop once again he'd actually have a chance to throw a strike like that again? crocop proved it was nothing more than a fluke...

[Vitasoy]

The punch that randleman landed on cro crop was well timed and had some luck involved... Every fighter has a punchers chance in a fight.

[Vitasoy]

Originally Posted by dunefield

bahaha you make things seem so black and white... do you really think if randleman fought crocrop once again he'd actually have a chance to throw a strike like that again? crocop proved it was nothing more than a fluke...

They did fight again and Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic submited him, via a Guillotine Choke in PRIDE Shockwave 2004. Needless to say he couldn't land that ko punch in the rematch

[animal mother]

submitting randleman is hardly newsworthy. he's perhaps the dumbest fighter in mma. a k-1 veteran getting knocked out standing by a HammerHouse fighter is just plain embarrassing. there's no way you can say with any degree of certainty that cro-cop would take out sylvia, mir or arlovski.

and there's no such thing as a lucky punch. there is, however, bad defense.

[CybermedAndy]

Originally Posted by TonyL

No I wasn't with him. I was wondering where you guys rolled at. In Vegas?

-Tony

Ya in Mandalay Bay downstairs in the fighter area.

Wasn't a real roll, had to be careful not to hurt himself before his fight, just flowed a little.

Thought you might have been his manager buddy there with him./

[FilthyRob]

Now that's good stuff!

[Vitasoy]

Originally Posted by animal mother

submitting randleman is hardly newsworthy. he's perhaps the dumbest fighter in mma. a k-1 veteran getting knocked out standing by a HammerHouse fighter is just plain embarrassing. there's no way you can say with any degree of certainty that cro-cop would take out sylvia, mir or arlovski.

and there's no such thing as a lucky punch. there is, however, bad defense.

In the ring with pride rules... Cro cop would KO all 3 of them no doubt about it.

[animal mother]

Originally Posted by Vitasoy

In the ring with pride rules... Cro cop would KO all 3 of them no doubt about it.

randleman put him to sleep in the ring with pride rules and he's a worse striker than all three of those guys, including mir. take that idiotic "no doubt about it" bullshit elsewhere. there are no sure things in mma.

[Vitasoy]

Originally Posted by animal mother

randleman put him to sleep in the ring with pride rules and he's a worse striker than all three of those guys, including mir. take that idiotic "no doubt about it" bullshit elsewhere. there are no sure things in mma.

Then how come randleman didn't KO him in the rematch??

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Vitasoy

Then how come randleman didn't KO him in the rematch??

Mirko was looking for it and not to be embarrased again? LOL

MMA is the closest to a streetfight you'll find anywhere. As anyone who has fought knows, you can go in with all the training in the world, be the baddest motherfucker around, but one fuck up somewhere can and will lose you your fight.

Everyone has been defeated, even the Gracies. Though using Gracie Logic, Gracie Jiu Jitsu has not been defeated, as every MMA fighter now learns it to be able to defend against it, or even win with it.

[Ordo]

Damn you all for posting the details. I have yet to see the latest UFCs.

I'm from Cincinnati myself and am very pleased to see a fellow Cincinnatian raise up in the ranks of UFC. A guy I used to train with tried out as an alternate in the UFC and was beaten in under 40 seconds of the first round. It's funny how easy it looks on the screen, but when a guy you've seen kick two guys on the street knocking them out cold gets beat in 40 seconds in the big show, you realize real quick how serious these fighters are.

Another buddy of mine is training with Hexin (sp?) Gracie. Fuckers always wanting to wrestle me to show me how good hes getting. Little thick fucker looks like Shamrock.

I'm 7ft tall and too out of shape to ever consider getting into competitive fighting anymore but I do love the UFC. Pride always seemed low rent to me but I guess thats because I never knew a whole lot about it.

Go Rich Franklin!