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baddog 06-20-2005 12:12 PM

half way there

polish_aristocrat 06-20-2005 01:59 PM

:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
half way there


4Pics 06-20-2005 02:31 PM

.xxx sucks!!

SexyScribe 06-20-2005 03:18 PM

bumpity bump

baddog 06-20-2005 06:29 PM

did I just hear a bump?

Tempest 06-20-2005 08:02 PM

Just say NO to .xxx

MikeHawk 06-20-2005 08:26 PM

i will put up 500 bucks that says Joan will not reverse her position...you know why? She cant.

Does not matter every single one of those folks that supported .XXX way way back except for 1...will reverse there stance.

:thumbsup

baddog 06-20-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
i will put up 500 bucks that says Joan will not reverse her position...you know why? She cant.

Does not matter every single one of those folks that supported .XXX way way back except for 1...will reverse there stance.

:thumbsup


Time to spill the beans?

Webby 06-20-2005 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk
i will put up 500 bucks that says Joan will not reverse her position...you know why? She cant.

Does not matter every single one of those folks that supported .XXX way way back except for 1...will reverse there stance.

:thumbsup


Agree! Money talks - even when you are doing good deeds - like opposing CP.

I'm gonna set up two churches, three homes for abused children and support General Gonzales in his fight against evil porn. Did someone offer me commission on a new TLD? Gotta go :-)

baddog 06-20-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Agree! Money talks - even when you are doing good deeds - like opposing CP.

I'm gonna set up two churches, three homes for abused children and support General Gonzales in his fight against evil porn. Did someone offer me commission on a new TLD? Gotta go :-)


I wonder if Baddog's Home For Wayward Girls and Rehabilitation Clinic can get some of that money.

The girls would really appreciate it.

baddog 06-21-2005 11:09 AM

bump bump

FilthyRob 06-21-2005 11:14 AM

No one in our industry should support .xxx

invasion 06-21-2005 11:17 AM

dont agree with .xxx and sounds like asacp needs to get some idea of their workings in order

can anyone their make a decision or is all by commitee?

just a punk 06-21-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker
I suggest people show their support for no .xxx by joining the FSC and telling ASACP to start thinking about cleaning house a little.

100% Agreed.

baddog 06-21-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invasion
can anyone their make a decision or is all by commitee?


That is a good question. Seems sometimes yes, sometimes no.

polish_aristocrat 06-21-2005 02:47 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/483452-interview-stuart-lawley-chairman-president-icm-registry.html

titmowse 06-21-2005 03:55 PM

Did you send an email to Joichi Ito, baddog?

Mack 06-21-2005 07:18 PM

Knock Knock





Who's there?














Bump!

SleazyDream 06-21-2005 07:44 PM

you know what - i've been thinking a LOT about this and here's my opinion.

I don't like .xxx

I don't like seeing the asacp publically support .xxx

reality is - i don't have the right to tell any organization other then my own house what to do - but with an organization like the asacp i do have the right to express my opinions and as a small sponser of them i would hope at least that they would at a min listen if only for a second as to what I have to say.


i don't see the asacp accepting money from .xxx in any way form or fashion as influeincing what they do or how they do it.

the asacp does in fact review those people who they accept money from, ensuring that they follow guidelines acceptable to the asacp and I'm wondering how it could be humaninaly possible for them to accept money from .xxx when it's open for almost any to buy a .xxx url and put anything they want up on it. there is no controll to my knowledge as to what goes on a .xxx url.

would it be possible for a person to buy a .xxx url and have content on it - like say a 17 year old having sex in a region of the world where it's legal to have that content? would the asacp support that?

what about non-nude stuff?


i'm left with the feeling that the .xxx url leaves the asacp susceptable to being sceen as supporting content that they screen all their other clients for and deny membership based on.

SleazyDream 06-21-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed
I wholeheartedly agree.

Joan always blames everything on the "advisory committee" (that no one in this industry elected, btw). Joan might just be the puppet/scape goat here, but hey, ASACP needs a good double-talker up front.

Roasting Joan doesn't solve the problem of a committee that SPEAKS FOR THE INDUSTRY but is not ELECTED BY THE INDUSTRY.

Steve Lightspeed

industry open call no - but ELECTED from those that contribute - maybe.................

baddog 06-21-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
you know what - i've been thinking a LOT about this and here's my opinion.

I don't like .xxx

I don't like seeing the asacp publically support .xxx

reality is - i don't have the right to tell any organization other then my own house what to do - but with an organization like the asacp i do have the right to express my opinions and as a small sponser of them i would hope at least that they would at a min listen if only for a second as to what I have to say.


i don't see the asacp accepting money from .xxx in any way form or fashion as influeincing what they do or how they do it.

the asacp does in fact review those people who they accept money from, ensuring that they follow guidelines acceptable to the asacp and I'm wondering how it could be humaninaly possible for them to accept money from .xxx when it's open for almost any to buy a .xxx url and put anything they want up on it. there is no controll to my knowledge as to what goes on a .xxx url.

would it be possible for a person to buy a .xxx url and have content on it - like say a 17 year old having sex in a region of the world where it's legal to have that content? would the asacp support that?

what about non-nude stuff?


i'm left with the feeling that the .xxx url leaves the asacp susceptable to being sceen as supporting content that they screen all their other clients for and deny membership based on.


So, Sleazy, the word is that ASACP is polling their sponsors to get their input on this issue.

Can you confirm whether or not the advisory council has contacted you?

baddog 06-21-2005 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titmowse
Did you send an email to Joichi Ito, baddog?


No . . . I have been too busy to construct an intelligent email lately

SleazyDream 06-21-2005 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
So, Sleazy, the word is that ASACP is polling their sponsors to get their input on this issue.

Can you confirm whether or not the advisory council has contacted you?

i got some info email from them - trying to decypher it now. I'm not that bright and it's a little compleciated for my tiny brain. Other contributing members are probally smarter than me and made more sense of it.

baddog 06-21-2005 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i got some info email from them - trying to decypher it now. I'm not that bright and it's a little compleciated for my tiny brain. Other contributing members are probally smarter than me and made more sense of it.


Feel free to forward it to me, and I will translate it to Canadian for you if you like.

baddog 06-21-2005 08:16 PM

or . . . . you could always post it here ;)

SleazyDream 06-21-2005 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
or . . . . you could always post it here ;)

i'm not here to crusify the asacp, i believe they do good work. I support what they do cause i think it's a noble cause.

I don't think personally accepting money from .xxx will change their mission - i'm only curious as to how by their standards that they accept other people they could accept a company that would allow anyone to upload anything to their url.

princess 06-21-2005 10:18 PM

Is there still no word from the advisory cancel or Joan?

titmowse 06-22-2005 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
No . . . I have been too busy to construct an intelligent email lately

Have I told you lately that I bumped you?

baddog 06-22-2005 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titmowse
Have I told you lately that I bumped you?


I am not sure

Anthony 06-22-2005 12:35 PM

No support for .XXX here.

Aly 06-22-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princess
Is there still no word from the advisory cancel or Joan?

ASACP has sent a message to it's sponsors asking for their feedback, not about whether or not they support or oppose .XXX, but whether or not they believe ASACP communicated it's neutral position effectively originally, or whether ASACP should write a letter of retraction to ICANN. ASACP has asked it's sponsors to specifically address what they believe to be the best for ASACP, their companies, and the industry.

As you're aware many companies are dealing with 2257 issues right now and will hopefully respond to the message to sponsors soon. Until more of them do, a final decision/ action on this will not be made.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2005 01:07 PM

Aly - You should be a comedian.

I love you but what the mother fuck are you doing?
I know for a fact the "Original" Aly I met would be flipping out about this event and easily be opposed to it and its bias.

I hope the pay is good.

polish_aristocrat 06-22-2005 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
ASACP has sent a message to it's sponsors asking for their feedback, not about whether or not they support or oppose .XXX, but whether or not they believe ASACP communicated it's neutral position effectively originally, or whether ASACP should write a letter of retraction to ICANN.

so ASACP won't oppose .xxx under any circumstances, you're just considering writing a new letter to ICANN and emphasizing that you're neutral...?

Aly 06-22-2005 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Aly - You should be a comedian.

I love you but what the mother fuck are you doing?
I know for a fact the "Original" Aly I met would be flipping out about this event and easily be opposed to it and its bias.

I hope the pay is good.


LOL... THANKS! I AM OPPOSED TO .XXX . I have expressed that in many different terms many times in many forums but I do NOT control ASACP (nor do they pay me). I am ONE VOTE and ONE VOICE at ASACP and trust me, they all hear that voice a LOT. I am trying very hard to very objectively let the rest of you know why you haven't heard anything about this yet, without betraying the confidence of ASACPs sponsors and advisors, or breaking the obligations of my NDA.

DON'T CALL ME A PUSSY YOU BASTARD! :winkwink:

Aly 06-22-2005 02:34 PM

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231419

One-on-One Interview, Part Two: Stuart Lawley, chairman and president, ICM Registry
By: MJ McMahon
Posted: 2:00 pm PDT 6-22-2005


TORONTO - In the second part of our interview with Stuart Lawley, president and chairman of ICM Registry, Lawley goes on the record about various rumors regarding who has supported ICM's application for an . xxx sponsored Top-Level Domain (sTLD).


"AVNOnline.com: xBiz reported that ASACP will be a direct beneficiary of IFFOR. Hendeles has stated this is undecided. Which is it?
Stuart Lawley: This was a misquote.

Clearly the ASACP has goals and a membership complement that fulfills the charter of IFFOR. We have proposed to work closely with the ASACP to establish them as our [child porn] hotline for the .xxx registry. ASACP has been in negotiations with ICM for ASACP to serve as a hotline for reviewing reports of suspected child pornography and perhaps to carry out the secondary monitoring of .xxx sites for child pornography.

No formal deal or promises of funding have been made with ASACP, however, it would seem blindingly obvious and completely appropriate that ASACP would be seen as a likely recipient of grant funding to be issued by IFFOR's grant advisory committee. Those parties selected by the community to represent IFFOR's grant advisory committee will be responsible for making this decision, not ICM Registry."



http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231419

baddog 06-30-2005 02:55 AM

so, whatever happened about this?

polish_aristocrat 06-30-2005 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
so, whatever happened about this?

looks like.... nothing?

will76 04-23-2011 12:08 PM

For once Baddog, I agree with you!!

KillerK 04-23-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor (Post 7592465)
I don't think JOAN got paid off, but I think a number of people did... and Joan as Executive Director doesn't always have the final say on issues like these. Sometimes she just has to do as instructed.

Care to take back this statement?


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