Ok xxxjay, let me get this straight

[Snake Doctor]

You've accused me of being homosexual, fucking sheep, stealing content, said my program was pathetic, and threatened me with physical violence multiple times (specifically a "knuckle sandwich" which will leave me with only "3 teeth")

And I owe you an apology for calling you a dick?

Go Fuck Yourself

[Snake Doctor]

Oh I forgot....I also have a "mini cock with anthrax sores"

Damn, that's the last time I let the mailman blow me

[pornguy]

Wow lots of issues on the board today.

[Tempest]

Well technically you called him a "dick" a "fucking prick" and a "punk"... soooooo... yeah.. that justifies the childish threats of violence in my books.

[Morgan]

Damn trolls

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Tempest

Well technically you called him a "dick" a "fucking prick" and a "punk"... soooooo... yeah.. that justifies the childish threats of violence in my books.

Yeah but I did it all in one post, so I should get credit for being efficient.

[r3ap3r]

I love this board.

[Sly]

I will beat you all up. Now behave before I get out the paddle.

[Morgan]

like some cheese with your whine Jenny2?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus

like some cheese with your whine Jenny2?

Fuck off sigwhore

Not whining about anything, just want to make sure I understand his position 100%

[Sosa]

This is getting good.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You've accused me of being homosexual, fucking sheep, stealing content, said my program was pathetic, and threatened me with physical violence multiple times (specifically a "knuckle sandwich" which will leave me with only "3 teeth")

And I owe you an apology for calling you a dick?

Go Fuck Yourself

So the only thing he was wrong about was your program being pathetic.... what are you upset about? j/k

[Nicky]

did everyone know that plugin feeds offer great services for paysites?



Just testing the new sig whore bot....pretty effective huh?

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Fuck off sigwhore

Not whining about anything, just want to make sure I understand his position 100%

awwww... did i hurt your feelings?? im sorry, why dont you quit crying and crawl back into your hole now you derelict!

Noone here wants to read your bitching.

[Nightwind]

Here comes the drama.

[xxxice]

drama time

[Morgan]

faster with the combacks Jenny2, you're being dialup!

[kernelpanic]

oh the drama!

[Jace]

wwwwaaaahhhhhhh!

[Extreme Holly]

xxxJay is God in my book, sorry he called you a dick or whatever.

[tranza]

Lol... Nobody cares...

[juve20]

sig spot

[Jace]

Originally Posted by tranza

Lol... Nobody cares...

you hit the nail on the head

[wjxxx]

[CDSmith]

Why does someone need two threads to mouth off at the same guy?


Nevermind. :D

[xxxjay]

I am calling your bluff. You say "most" of your content ?was produced exclusively for us? -- it's either exclusive or it's not. If you have everything so together -- then why are you so worried? Lenny2, let's face it: something doesn't add up.

All I have to do is drive over the hill to TTBoy's office and grab the model releases and send them to our corporate office in Vegas by the 23rd. We have every episode cross-referenced with the performers already. Despite our press release, we?ve spent plenty of time preparing for this eventuality. This is a big reason why I am not worried. First time I consulted a lawyer was last August when the proposed regulations were published.

Furthermore, I didn't know being optimistic was a crime, a reason for verbal abuse or slander on public boards. If you read this article really points out how weak the government?s case really is:

http://www.avnonline.com/articles/231124.html

Most of this article is more of a refresher for me than it will be for a newb like yourself.

Taking my point further, you started this shit. You attacked first -- Pearl Harbor style. All I said was that an injunction had been "filed" -- notice I did not say "granted", then you take stuff out of multiple posts, completely misquote me, use my words out of context, and then have the unmitigated audacity to make a post calling me a ?dick? and an ?idiot? in the title -- which now you have also called a lot of my business associates ?dicks? and ?idiots? by association. Good move ? you ought to get a ton of new affiliates out of that one.

Lastly, seeing as you have gone to such great lengths to try and make me look bad ? yes, that is grounds for an ass-beating. Don?t think I haven?t done this before. You don?t know who I?ve worked for and what I?ve done in the past. I?m one of the few that have taken this offline shit to the street ? so -- post away, you pathetic keyboard jockey?you are only shoveling your own grave.

[Rich]

Seriously Lenny, you hate a guy because he's resisting the laws created by a bunch of religious fanatics that are designed to put an end to our industry? I'm with with xxxjay, fuck those bastards, let them come an get me. I will not bow down to fascism. Regulations put on an industry without any input from anyone involved in the industry? Riiiiight.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Fuck off sigwhore

Not whining about anything, just want to make sure I understand his position 100%

Gangasaurus is anything but a sig whore - he's one of the owners of OCCash and I am proud to call him a partner and a freind.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I am calling your bluff. You say "most" of your content ?was produced exclusively for us? -- it's either exclusive or it's not. If you have everything so together -- then why are you so worried? Lenny2, let's face it: something doesn't add up.

All I have to do is drive over the hill to TTBoy's office and grab the model releases and send them to our corporate office in Vegas by the 23rd. We have every episode cross-referenced with the performers already. Despite our press release, we?ve spent plenty of time preparing for this eventuality. This is a big reason why I am not worried. First time I consulted a lawyer was last August when the proposed regulations were published.

Furthermore, I didn't know being optimistic was a crime, a reason for verbal abuse or slander on public boards. If you read this article really points out how weak the government?s case really is:

http://www.avnonline.com/articles/231124.html

Most of this article is more of a refresher for me than it will be for a newb like yourself.

Taking my point further, you started this shit. You attacked first -- Pearl Harbor style. All I said was that an injunction had been "filed" -- notice I did not say "granted", then you take stuff out of multiple posts, completely misquote me, use my words out of context, and then have the unmitigated audacity to make a post calling me a ?dick? and an ?idiot? in the title -- which now you have also called a lot of my business associates ?dicks? and ?idiots? by association. Good move ? you ought to get a ton of new affiliates out of that one.

Lastly, seeing as you have gone to such great lengths to try and make me look bad ? yes, that is grounds for an ass-beating. Don?t think I haven?t done this before. You don?t know who I?ve worked for and what I?ve done in the past. I?m one of the few that have taken this offline shit to the street ? so -- post away, you pathetic keyboard jockey?you are only shoveling your own grave.

amen, hale-fucking-luja!

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You've accused me of being homosexual, fucking sheep, stealing content, said my program was pathetic, and threatened me with physical violence multiple times (specifically a "knuckle sandwich" which will leave me with only "3 teeth")

And I owe you an apology for calling you a dick?

Go Fuck Yourself

If you keep this up I might only leave you with one.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Rich

Seriously Lenny, you hate a guy because he's resisting the laws created by a bunch of religious fanatics that are designed to put an end to our industry? I'm with with xxxjay, fuck those bastards, let them come an get me. I will not bow down to fascism. Regulations put on an industry without any input from anyone involved in the industry? Riiiiight.

I never said I hated him, I said he was a dick.

First of all Jay needs some english lessons. You don't "file an injunction" you file a lawsuit. Then a judge may "issue an injunction"
The way Jay's thread title was worded led alot of people to believe that the judge had already ruled on the issue and that we were in the clear.

Then he says to "quit worrying about 2257 and get back to work" as if this is a done deal, and it's far from a done deal.
Hell even the people filing the lawsuit are advising webmasters to comply with the law until everything is settled in court.

From the FSC's website

FSC Recommends Compliance with Existing and New 2257 Rules & Regs....

.....However, being a member of the Free Speech Coalition does not mean that compliance is unnecessary. Every producer of actually sexually explicit conduct is covered by the existing regulations and the new regulations (which take effect June 23, 2005).

So telling people that they don't have to comply is way over the line IMO....if you want to have a cavalier attitude with your own business fine...but don't come on here with this bullshit about how "I have inside information and I know things and you don't have to comply with the law"

I certainly hope that the judge does rule in favor of the FSC on all counts, but I think it's stupid to tell people they can ignore the regs just because a suit has been filed.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

If you keep this up I might only leave you with one.

Fuck you dickface. The best you can do is threaten me with physical violence?

Bring it on.

[Steen2]

Jeez, this is over the top.

[Basic_man]

This thread is pathetic. So much hate on this board..

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I am calling your bluff. You say "most" of your content ?was produced exclusively for us? -- it's either exclusive or it's not. If you have everything so together -- then why are you so worried? Lenny2, let's face it: something doesn't add up.

Really simple genius....I'll try to do this slowly so you can understand.
"MOST" means more than half....probably 75% of our content is exclusive. The other 25% isn't exclusive.
However we do have 2257 docs for EVERY PIECE of content on our sites. I'm ready for the 23rd, I'm not worried about anything, especially a little pissant like you.
However I still think you're a dick for claiming to have "inside information" and telling webmasters that they don't have to comply with the regs when the people that are filing the lawsuit on our behalf are advising webmasters to comply with both the new AND the old regs.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

All I have to do is drive over the hill to TTBoy's office and grab the model releases and send them to our corporate office in Vegas by the 23rd. We have every episode cross-referenced with the performers already. Despite our press release, we?ve spent plenty of time preparing for this eventuality. This is a big reason why I am not worried. First time I consulted a lawyer was last August when the proposed regulations were published.

So make up YOUR mind. Are you going to comply or not?
You come on the board talking big shit and fuck this law and all that....but yet you still decided to get everything organized and ready in case the feds come to investigate.....yet you tell other webmasters don't worry about it you have "inside information" and they don't have to comply...keep sending us traffic with your undocumented hardcore content.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Taking my point further, you started this shit. You attacked first -- Pearl Harbor style. All I said was that an injunction had been "filed" -- notice I did not say "granted", then you take stuff out of multiple posts, completely misquote me, use my words out of context, and then have the unmitigated audacity to make a post calling me a ?dick? and an ?idiot? in the title -- which now you have also called a lot of my business associates ?dicks? and ?idiots? by association. Good move ? you ought to get a ton of new affiliates out of that one.

Hey if the condom and the dunce cap fit.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Lastly, seeing as you have gone to such great lengths to try and make me look bad ? yes, that is grounds for an ass-beating. Don?t think I haven?t done this before. You don?t know who I?ve worked for and what I?ve done in the past. I?m one of the few that have taken this offline shit to the street ? so -- post away, you pathetic keyboard jockey?you are only shoveling your own grave.

I'm still quaking in my rockports. In the meantime, if you feel the need to resort to physical violence over some shit on a message board, might I recommend that you seek psychiatric help.

[jollyperv]

"Wac Arnold's is tearing this family apart!"

[sniperwolf]

Do as the romans do! LOL

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I never said I hated him, I said he was a dick.

First of all Jay needs some english lessons. You don't "file an injunction" you file a lawsuit. Then a judge may "issue an injunction"
The way Jay's thread title was worded led alot of people to believe that the judge had already ruled on the issue and that we were in the clear.

Then he says to "quit worrying about 2257 and get back to work" as if this is a done deal, and it's far from a done deal.
Hell even the people filing the lawsuit are advising webmasters to comply with the law until everything is settled in court.

From the FSC's website

FSC Recommends Compliance with Existing and New 2257 Rules & Regs....

.....However, being a member of the Free Speech Coalition does not mean that compliance is unnecessary. Every producer of actually sexually explicit conduct is covered by the existing regulations and the new regulations (which take effect June 23, 2005).

So telling people that they don't have to comply is way over the line IMO....if you want to have a cavalier attitude with your own business fine...but don't come on here with this bullshit about how "I have inside information and I know things and you don't have to comply with the law"

I certainly hope that the judge does rule in favor of the FSC on all counts, but I think it's stupid to tell people they can ignore the regs just because a suit has been filed.

Whatever dude.

I NEVER SAID THIS:
"I have inside information and I know things and you don't have to comply with the law" - I'll give you 1k if you can find where I posted that lie - you fucking asshole.

I was privy to information a few weeks ago that has already started to play out. FYI - I never said not to comply with 2257. All I said was we would not be handing out IDs at that point. And, oh yeah, you can appolize any time you want. You are only digging the hole deeper.

Here's the post...

Re: Secondary Producer Records Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2257

To Whom It May Concern:

I represent OC Cash Media. We received your inquiry concerning copies of records for secondary producers. I am very familiar with 18 U.S.C. § 2257 in my capacities as a First Amendment and criminal defense practitioner, the Chairman Emeritus of the First Amendment Lawyers Association and the Chair of the Board of the industry?s trade association, the Free Speech Coalition. I write this letter exclusively in my capacity as OC Cash Media?s attorney

Despite General Gonzalez? efforts at reviving the concept of ?secondary producers? in the most recent version of regulations in support of 18 U.S.C. § 2257, the concept is not supported by the statute itself. The only case addressing the issue, Sundance Assocs. Inc. v. Reno, 139 F.3d 804, 807 (10th Cir.1998), held that the ?secondary producer? requirements of the regulations to be unconstitutional. We rely on that holding, and further decline to violate the privacy of the performing artists by disseminating private data when not required to do so by law.

If you have any questions regarding this policy, please do not hesitate to call, or have your attorney do so.


Sincerely,

The Law Office of
Jeffrey J. Douglas

By: Jeffrey J. Douglas

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

you can appolize any time you want.

The phrase hell freezing over comes to mind.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

The phrase hell freezing over comes to mind.

I see there was nothing on that last post you could even deal with.

Even after it is obvious that you are totally getting crushed in this match of wits and being exposed for the piece of shit you are?

I think just saw Satan shopping at Eddie Bauer for some new ski wear.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Oh I forgot....I also have a "mini cock with anthrax sores"

Damn, that's the last time I let the mailman blow me

that's a good one

[iwantchixx]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Lastly, seeing as you have gone to such great lengths to try and make me look bad hahaha8211; yes, that is grounds for an ass-beating. Donhahaha8217;t think I havenhahaha8217;t done this before. You donhahaha8217;t know who Ihahaha8217;ve worked for and what Ihahaha8217;ve done in the past. Ihahaha8217;m one of the few that have taken this offline shit to the street hahaha8211; so -- post away, you pathetic keyboard jockeyhahaha8230;you are only shoveling your own grave.

Jay, calm down man. You're going to get yourself killed or thrown in jail one of these days with your mouth.

This is a business forum unwinding area, not the fight club, if you can't handle gofuckyourself shit slinging without resorting to threats and boasting your past then maybe you should just ignore what people say? Grow some thicker skin man. Nothing he is saying is hurting you the least bit. While I agree that people shouldn't attack people on the boards as it reflects their personal stature and business stature retaliations... threats are no better, in fact, it's worse.

your temper is getting the better of you. Calmer down guy. be the bigger man. Resorting to that comment of yours is making you look very undesirable.

[NTSS]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You've accused me of being homosexual, fucking sheep, stealing content, said my program was pathetic, and threatened me with physical violence multiple times (specifically a "knuckle sandwich" which will leave me with only "3 teeth")
And I owe you an apology for calling you a dick?

Go Fuck Yourself

That's fucking hilarious

[Jace]

wow, so all this was over Jay getting some legal terminology backwards???

jesus Lenny, get a life

[The Ghost]

I wonder what a day at GFY would be like without someone being called out..

[kernelpanic]

drama sells.

[Morgan]

i rarely visit this gfy room due to these idiots...

i prefer to stick with the paid "elite" gfy forums... oops... did i say that out loud.. ??

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

drama sells.

Listen to Slumpbuster:
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...20050528162349

[hova]

I can feel the love

[Kevsh]

how many threads now have been devoted to this drama? Can I get an over/under?