Foreign ID and 2257 - Incompatible? - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Waters · 06-17-2005, 11:20 AM

Here is the text:

Sec. 75.1 Definitions

(b) Picture identification card means a document issued by the
United States, a State government or a political subdivision thereof,
or a United States territory, that bears the photograph and the name of
the individual identified, and provides sufficient specific information
that it can be accessed from the issuing authority, such as a passport,
Permanent Resident Card (commonly known as a ``Green Card''), or other
employment authorization document issued by the United States, a
driver's license issued by a State or the District of Columbia, or
another form of identification issued by a State or the District of
Columbia; or, a foreign government-issued equivalent of any of the
documents listed above when both the person who is the subject
of the picture identification card and the producer maintaining the required
records are located outside the United States.

I have had one US resident buyer indicate that his lawyer said foreign ID could not be used because he was a producer, albeit a secondary one.

Thoughts?

jacked · 06-17-2005, 11:24 AM

so the content provider must require their models to have a passport or something of that sort just so he can shoot them and re-sell the rights to the images to US clients?

thats out of control i can only imagine how long it takes to get a passport outside of this country, it took me almost 3 months to get mine and i live in the states

After Shock Media · 06-17-2005, 11:24 AM

Morons are everywhere and some even have law degrees. Assuming of course that person actually spoke with an attorney and got that advice.
Producer and secondary producer are defined differently.
Not to mention it is reasonable to state that if the producer has a ID from one country and a model has an ID from another country it is still valid.

tranza · 06-17-2005, 11:27 AM

I'm bored....

Paul Waters · 06-17-2005, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Morons are everywhere and some even have law degrees. Assuming of course that person actually spoke with an attorney and got that advice.
Producer and secondary producer are defined differently.
Not to mention it is reasonable to state that if the producer has a ID from one country and a model has an ID from another country it is still valid.

Do the regs define *producer* or *primary producer*?

And is *secondary producer* clearly not a *producer*

This guy may have had a very cautious lawyer.

But the nasty part, is performers with foreign ID cannot work for American producers under the new 2257.

latinasojourn · 06-17-2005, 12:04 PM

it is my understanding that IF the foreign national is working as a model inside the USA she must has a USA sanctioned ID (green card, etc) and her foreign ID will not suffice.

IF the usa producer goes outside the USA and shoots her outside the usa her picture ID issued by the foreign government will suffice.

and foreign producers who shoot outside the usa may sell content to usa webmasters if they provide the appropriate ID docs and model release dates of production (which will be, by definition foreign picture IDs).

06-17-2005, 11:20 AM	#1
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	Foreign ID and 2257 - Incompatible? Here is the text: Sec. 75.1 Definitions (b) Picture identification card means a document issued by the United States, a State government or a political subdivision thereof, or a United States territory, that bears the photograph and the name of the individual identified, and provides sufficient specific information that it can be accessed from the issuing authority, such as a passport, Permanent Resident Card (commonly known as a ``Green Card''), or other employment authorization document issued by the United States, a driver's license issued by a State or the District of Columbia, or another form of identification issued by a State or the District of Columbia; or, a foreign government-issued equivalent of any of the documents listed above when both the person who is the subject of the picture identification card and the producer maintaining the required records are located outside the United States. I have had one US resident buyer indicate that his lawyer said foreign ID could not be used because he was a producer, albeit a secondary one. Thoughts? __________________ Paul

06-17-2005, 11:24 AM	#2
jacked sperm tail Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: nj Posts: 11,019	so the content provider must require their models to have a passport or something of that sort just so he can shoot them and re-sell the rights to the images to US clients? thats out of control i can only imagine how long it takes to get a passport outside of this country, it took me almost 3 months to get mine and i live in the states __________________ Got Cam Models? icq: 361-607-616

06-17-2005, 11:24 AM	#3
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Morons are everywhere and some even have law degrees. Assuming of course that person actually spoke with an attorney and got that advice. Producer and secondary producer are defined differently. Not to mention it is reasonable to state that if the producer has a ID from one country and a model has an ID from another country it is still valid. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

06-17-2005, 11:27 AM	#4
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I'm bored.... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-17-2005, 12:04 PM	#6
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	it is my understanding that IF the foreign national is working as a model inside the USA she must has a USA sanctioned ID (green card, etc) and her foreign ID will not suffice. IF the usa producer goes outside the USA and shoots her outside the usa her picture ID issued by the foreign government will suffice. and foreign producers who shoot outside the usa may sell content to usa webmasters if they provide the appropriate ID docs and model release dates of production (which will be, by definition foreign picture IDs).