all this drama... i need a drink :)

ouch. i'm glad you're not mad at me. you'd make me cry. :)

I like XXXJay he is very entertaining, and a smart guy ( I dont agree with misinformation though) but to call him names is not right, he does a lot of good here IMHO.

here's my friend

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I agree. That's just, well it's just...naughty. That's what it is.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/90/23...ghty%20Boy.jpg

http://outofbodies.com/sketchbook/naughty.gif

Jay has some good points, but it may not be the smartest stance for the average webmaster to take. Listen, but still cover your own ass. Unless you have the money to protect yourself, then it's best that you comply. ($250k+ to protect yourself) Jay covered the issue about the secondary producer, which is a major part.. But it sure doesn't mean the rest of the new regulations will be blocked.

Lenny makes a solid point. It's not good or wise to tell others that they don't/won't need to comply because of a ruling already in place. The judge can ignore everything and allow every part of the new regulations to take place.

The fact is the 2257 is already law, already able to enforce it. Even allowing a few parts of the new regulations to take place can still affect every adult company in the United States. Just because Joe Webmaster may not need records doesn't mean your sponsors can and will be able to comply.

For your own safety, wouldn't you want to be 100% sure that the model is over age? Do you really trust every company you promote to be honest and have legal content? What about content produced by an American, which has girls from other countries? Are you sure they are legal for you to use?

Many parts of the new regulations may not get blocked and those parts could still affect all webmasters.

Point is, get your shit in order.. Wait to see what happens but be ready to comply.

Its important to comply with the current 2257 Laws.
Not doing so is sheer stupidity.

However...
I see Lenny is getting dumber by the day.

Hello Officer Lenny

Bottom line.

Well before running your mouth abut Jay maybe you should have found out who his lawyer is!!! It's one of the lawyers also working closely with FSC so he knows whats going on how and when. So just becuase you didnt like the way he stated what he posted about fuck 2257 doesnt mean hes a prick.

Everyone is having a fucking fit now about 2257

WELL HELLO People 2257 isn't new just the new record keeping requirements are different so get the fuck on with what ya got to do and quit bitchin about it if ya arent going to get a lawyer to fight. I paid my lawyer and got the goods and bads. and did what needs to be done to stay legal. And I dont even run Pay sites just TGP's MGP's and LL . You guys that run paysites and affiliate programs this should have been the first fuckin thing you did when new 2257 revisions came out was get a Lawyer.

Instead of people bitching Go out get yourself a lawyer

50.........,.

woj?....


ha ha.... right on cue. :D.

Seriously....

What people actually need to do is stop listening to ANYBODY, you, him, they, ANYBODY.... and just read the regs and do what's best for their own business and quit fucking worrying about what others are doing or not doing about their business.

And hopefully people aren't as stupid as some here might think, that they would buy hook, line and sinker into what xxxjay or anyone scoffing at 2257 is saying, and follow along like mindless sheep.

But if they are that's their affair. I, however, tend to believe that in the end most people will base their decisions on what is best for their business and on facts derived from the regs themselves and from the advice of their lawyers, not what characters on message boards are saying.

Give people some credit. :D

This is getting so fucking old.......we are doing EXACTLY what our attorney has recommended we do......What more do you guys want for chrissakes!!!
If you think Jay is a prick, well thats a whole seperate issue for you and Jay to deal with. In the meantime.....let me reiterate...WE HAVE ACCESS TO ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS AT OUR PRIMARY PRODUCER EVASIVE ANGLES....WE ARE A SECONDARY PRODUCER AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS ADVISED US NOT TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING THE DOCS ON HAND....RATHER ALL OUR 2257 ON OUR SITES FHG'S ETC POINT TO THE PRIMARY PRODUCER EVASIVE ANGLES. THE INJUNCTION WILL BE GRANTED AND ONE OF THE PARTS IT COVERS IS SECONDARY PRODUCERS. EVERYONE PLEASE CHILL THE FUCK OUT!!!!

Wag the dog...

Here is what everyone should be paying attention to:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=481769
But obviously no one has the fucken balls to ask questions.

JC - thanks for posting that info so I didn't have to again and saving me the trouble.

So, what should I do?

A. Pay a decent chunk of change to get the legal councel of a one of the best 2257 attorneys there is -- then ignore his advice.

B. Listen to Lenny2 from GFY.

I'm going with A.

The only thing I posted was the text to this article:
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9162

I didn't say anything about the injunction already being in place, I just stated it had been filed, and it happened just like I was told it would weeks ago.

And Lenny2, if you want to call me a dick, why don't you come to Flodida in August and say it to my face? I'm not a dentist, so I don't remember how many teeth a person has, but you will leave with about 3 of them.

I hate GFY wannabe armchair lawyers.

:thumbsup This is true people.

For those of you that do not know the difference, you really should get a lawyer or get out of the business. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Yep, I know that too. :) All I did was post this text:
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9162

Either...

A. Lenny2 can't read.
B. He is putting words in my mouth.

Either way, he will only have 3 teeth in his mouth (as I stated above) unless he issues and apology.

ugh don't we all?

Watch it, assaulting an officer is a felony! :)

Lenny, too hardcore with your original post, though the message was correct. No one should alter their 2257 prep simply because an application for an injuction was filed. Emphasis on FILED. Not GRANTED. FILED.

Jay however shouldn't be shot for being a messenger, he's simply relaying information from his attorney. It's up to each one of us to decide whether or not to follow. I'm glad he's posting, I don't mind how he packages it because I'm not a sheep and will decide for myself what path I pursue.

Damn...that's fuck up!

Some people just have a very hard time dealing with the fact that the opinions and actions of many others are not, repeat: NOT going to fall in line with theirs. Officer Lenny happens to be one of those people.


And... does anyone really bust anyone else's teeth out EVER over these little board pissings? I have yet to see (or hear of) it. :D

Jay hates cops. Perfect.

bump for being so fucking funny and

Just do the 2257 - follow the law and keep making money

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9162

Keep in mind that IF an injunction is granted, it will ONLY cover FSC members

Folks be putting a lot of false hopes and denial into this situation :2 cents:

Your thread title said an "injunction was filed"....so perhaps YOU should learn to read.
There's a very big difference between and injunction and a lawsuit....all that has been filed is a lawsuit.

Your thread title was leading people to believe that the judge has already issued an injunction, which he hasn't.
You then went further and told people to stop worrying about 2257 and get back to work.

You're misleading people on a very serious issue that could cost them 5 years in jail. That makes you a dick.

I think you're both good shits, too bad the fascist government had to come between you.

Look on the bright side, the apocalypse can't be too far away so we won't have to worry about this shit for very long. When all the evangelicals get taken up to heaven we'll have free rein!

Shit, today is Friday?

Your on top of things bro, I know. :thumbsup

I didn't know that there were expensive ones... :winkwink:

If you had read past the title you would see that isn't the case. It was just text from an xbiz article. I am optimistic about the outcome of this 2257 shit, I am, and have been privy to information that I can't and won't post.

If you want to worry yourself to death abo...you know what, fuck you - I just want to pop you in the fucking mouth - you can have your opinion, I will have mine - but, if you want to start name calling and slander about the shit FUCK YOU! I'LL BEAT YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU FUCKING FAG!

I think an apology is in order.

You can stick your apology up your optimistic ass :321GFY

After the sheep fucking thread I'd say we can call it even on the name callilng.

I heard a disturbing rumour that xxxjay had the fsc list of contributors and was going to post it on GFY. Any truth to that?

Yes, and if you masturbate too much your palms get hairy. Of course not, that is really stupid.

You started it -- you were not even on my radar till this thread -- then prepare yourself for a knuckle sandwich.

One good thing you at least did get out of me is I finally checked out your program...it's pathetic. I'd be stressing out too if I had to dig up the 2257 docs for all of that content you bootlegged! :1orglaugh

:321GFY

I'm quaking in my rockports.

drama!



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HAH!!
Is that the best you can do man? You're really pathetic, first you threaten me with physical violence and then you want to make fun of my content.

We have ALL the docs for ALL of our content, most of it is produced exclusively for us so of course we have all the 2257 docs.
Alot more than I can say for your program dickhead. :321GFY