I propose there be bannings from industry(webmaster) events

You would think that all this negative publicity might teach him a lesson

I think sponsors pay a pretty penny to be participate - to sponsor events - to offer bonuses - to offer gifts and what not.

In reference to this thread, I fail to see how raising the costs for the sponsor to participate will prevent 'surfers' from attending - or to prevent folks who can't control their hormones from harassing others.

Newbreed was there just a few feet away doing business. He was also held back by myself and others from doing anything once everything went down since we did not want anyone taken away in cuffs and tarnishing the industry rep to outsiders.

Yeah, but as was stated, he turned away for a short time to do something else. You can't watch your wife 100% of the time and shouldn't have to.

Prevention is definitely the best bet... step in early and try to stop it from escalating... and yes, the husband should do his best to be there.

But if it does happen, then the person responsible shouldn't just go "yeah well, her husband wasn't doing anything while he was busy so I had a right to" and walk away unpunished.

It wouldn't really work.. You can't ban someone from the full event, maybe your party but someone else will let them into another party. Even if you did ban them from an event who is really going to stop them from coming anyway?

Doesn't help either when the girls dress like little schoolgirl sluts. Not saying that these girls did but normally the girl is just as guilty in some way, cock teasing is a dangerous thing. Don't dress the part if you don't want to take the heat.

This same kind of crap happens at non-adult shows too. Hell our shows are laid back compared to some non-industry events. I remember a show where the people poured concert in the toilets at the Venetian, a non-adult show.

And what about the past event issues? Who would be banned? I can name many owners and great employees that have gotten stupid because of drugs and alcohol. How quickly people forget that their favorite board personalities have done some really stupid shit at parties.

The people who put on parties should hire security. If they don?t want someone to enter then they should be on a ban list. Then again, this would only add to the cluster fuck of events in our industry.

ahhh so AaronM grabbing the guy and dragging him 2 the floor defently wouldnt do that, but if it was newbreed all shit woulda hit the fan.

Sounds like its time for organizers of these events to beef up security. In addition high profile models may want to have some decent body guards chilling in the wings as an additional safety precaution.

Yes but if, let's say, internext won't even take their $300 and says "no, you are not allowed to register" then would they really show up anyway and just go to parties where their friends would let them in?

I think he's saying that Aaron just contained him...

If newbreed got his hands on the guy, there's no telling what would have happened.
And understandable too.... an enraged husband is more likely to go for blood than a good friend who's just looking to protect the girl.

Agreed dude

Seems like someone gets out of control at every event. Property damage, getting too friendly with others and what not.

I escorted some one to the hall crawl thing on Monday and she was dressed really hot and no one really came up to her to put their hands on her. It was still early and people weren't drunk enough I guess.

The show, on the floor, isn't where the problems take place. Well not normally at least. It's also pretty easy to get into the show without spending a dime on a badge. As an example last Vegas show I didn?t enter the floor until the final day.

The parties and small party shows like SD is where you see the biggest problems. If I threw a party I wouldn't know who these people are. Unless I checked ID's and badges. Everyone may have an ID but not everyone has a badge.

And like I said, you would really ban some of the top people in this industry. I have seen and heard of some really crazy shit during parties. People have broken things, heard of girls getting slipped G, stolen things, very hard sexual advances, etc.. All from people that the board knows and loves..

People that hit most the shows know who and what I'm talking about.

Yeah, I've been there for some wild stuff.

What I'm saying is... it's easier to police a party if say, "no badge, no enter" kind of thing.

So if you're banned from the show itself, can't register and get a badge... then the party sponsors can have someone at the door stopping anyone without a badge from getting in.

Many parties are invite only these days anyway, for just such a reason.

While this would help, no doubt about that.. You would be amazed at the amount of people who come to the shows and never register for a badge. Models often don't have badges. Invite only works for smaller parties, with a big party it creates a cluster fuck.

I agree something needs to be done. But I think the parties need to be put together better first. They need to hire someone that knows what they are doing rather than passing it off to an employee. Drink limits for drunks, security, house limits for entry, entry needs to be streamlined, etc.. It starts with the person putting the party on.

It's really getting pretty sad that women can't even go to a show these days without getting molested. And it seems to be happening more and more often as times goes on.

Here's a thought. All the big programs are always giving out things to the webmasters, whether it's t-shirts, or hoodies, cups, pens, etc. Well why doesn't a program (or TWO!) give something a little extra to the women who go to the shows. I just did a quick little check on Google and there are plenty of companies that can wholesale and even put custom logos on PEPPER SPRAY!!! I found a number of sites that offer 1/2-ounce spray cans of PEPPER SPRAY complete with keychain holsters in the $2.75 to $3.00 range. And those prices were from some companies requiring only orders of 12-each to get them that cheap.

Yep, that's at or less than the price of t-shirts done in bulk. And it might just help curb the number on incidents at the shows. And yep, these types of promotional give-aways are tax deductible to the Program owners so why NOT DO IT??? This is my little cry of help to the Big Boys out there, so ADULT.COM, LIGHTSPEED, hahaha, FLASH CASH, JOIN RIGHT NOW, SUNNY DOLLARS, ARS, TOP BUCKS, NICHE PAY, EXTREME PAYCHECKS, BRAIN CASH, PLATINUM BUCKS, or ANY OTHER PROGRAM out there, how about it?!?!

http://www.defensedevices.com/wholpepspray.html

Hell, I flirt on the boards and ICQ all the time with the women (and sometimes the men ), but this shit is just too out of control. When people get so shit faced and out of control at events I'd love to see a special section of pics out on FUBAR Webmasters of these idiots getting OWNED with a nice shot of PEPPER SPRAY!