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Old 06-16-2005, 09:28 AM   #51
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50 drunks at a party.

I think its funny people flip out over a drunk guy who was obnoxious towards a woman.

have you ever been to a party where there WASN'T at least one drunk groper ?

This shit happens at parties all the time , and office parties too, and sometimes people get fired over their actions, sometimes they dont.

I would be alot more concerned if this was taking place at a private party or a personal photo shoot etc..

It was in front of alot of people at a party so theres plenty of people to get involved. It usually brings a bit of humour to the night.

If you truly want to get rid of drunk perverts at a party, dont serve alcohol
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:30 AM   #53
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If we banned all the creeps who do no real biz at shows, there would only be 100 people there.
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50 drunks at a party.

I think its funny people flip out over a drunk guy who was obnoxious towards a woman.

have you ever been to a party where there WASN'T at least one drunk groper ?

This shit happens at parties all the time , and office parties too, and sometimes people get fired over their actions, sometimes they dont.

I would be alot more concerned if this was taking place at a private party or a personal photo shoot etc..

It was in front of alot of people at a party so theres plenty of people to get involved. It usually brings a bit of humour to the night.

If you truly want to get rid of drunk perverts at a party, dont serve alcohol
I'm sure it's not a "bit of humour" to the woman who's crying her eyes out for the next hour or so and afraid to go out again, much less to the next show.
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If we banned all the creeps who do no real biz at shows, there would only be 100 people there.
Yeah... so what's the problem?
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:58 AM   #56
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It's disgusting and unfortunately you can't ban someone, but kicking the shit out of someone could easily put a stop to it. The first year Cybernet did the show in San Diego, I was with a ton of people at the Players Ball on the patio. This dude grabed my boob (he is an industry photograper, but I have no idea who he is) and I put a lit cigarette out on his tattoo, there were people wanting to smack him out but I figured the humiliation plus the burn mark were sufficient enough. It's sad that these industry girls have these freackin leeches clinging to them at the shows. There is simply no excuse. Regardless if she does solo girl, gg or hardcore double anal gangbang, nobody has a right to lay a finger on them! I agree with the Pepper Spray post...Idiots~
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:14 PM   #57
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It's really getting pretty sad that women can't even go to a show these days without getting molested. And it seems to be happening more and more often as times goes on.

Here's a thought. All the big programs are always giving out things to the webmasters, whether it's t-shirts, or hoodies, cups, pens, etc. Well why doesn't a program (or TWO!) give something a little extra to the women who go to the shows. I just did a quick little check on Google and there are plenty of companies that can wholesale and even put custom logos on PEPPER SPRAY!!! I found a number of sites that offer 1/2-ounce spray cans of PEPPER SPRAY complete with keychain holsters in the $2.75 to $3.00 range. And those prices were from some companies requiring only orders of 12-each to get them that cheap.

Yep, that's at or less than the price of t-shirts done in bulk. And it might just help curb the number on incidents at the shows. And yep, these types of promotional give-aways are tax deductible to the Program owners so why NOT DO IT??? This is my little cry of help to the Big Boys out there, so ADULT.COM, LIGHTSPEED, hahaha, FLASH CASH, JOIN RIGHT NOW, SUNNY DOLLARS, ARS, TOP BUCKS, NICHE PAY, EXTREME PAYCHECKS, BRAIN CASH, PLATINUM BUCKS, or ANY OTHER PROGRAM out there, how about it?!?!

http://www.defensedevices.com/wholpepspray.html

Hell, I flirt on the boards and ICQ all the time with the women (and sometimes the men ), but this shit is just too out of control. When people get so shit faced and out of control at events I'd love to see a special section of pics out on FUBAR Webmasters of these idiots getting OWNED with a nice shot of PEPPER SPRAY!

Just a little bumpage for the evening shift, and maybe some program owners!
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:55 PM   #58
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Take 100's of highschool loser computer nerds, 10 parts alcohol, and 1 part content, and you are bound to get this type of result everytime.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:18 PM   #59
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Increase security or make their presence more visible. Let people know ahead of time that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. When annoucements are made you could add a little reminder to "be nice to the ladies". Posting signs is something that would remind people to keep themselves under control. You need to nip it in the bud by creating an atmosphere that says "Don't fuck with the ladies!". You know...the way it's done in the classy strip clubs.
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Someone should write Alberto Gonzalez to ask him to set up a task force to police the shows.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:29 PM   #61
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ahhh so AaronM grabbing the guy and dragging him 2 the floor defently wouldnt do that, but if it was newbreed all shit woulda hit the fan.
I'm glad that happened, but he should've been thrown in the fountain..
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:32 PM   #62
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It's really getting pretty sad that women can't even go to a show these days without getting molested. And it seems to be happening more and more often as times goes on.

Here's a thought. All the big programs are always giving out things to the webmasters, whether it's t-shirts, or hoodies, cups, pens, etc. Well why doesn't a program (or TWO!) give something a little extra to the women who go to the shows. I just did a quick little check on Google and there are plenty of companies that can wholesale and even put custom logos on PEPPER SPRAY!!!
Ok, while I understand what you are trying to accomplish, I'm sure no one is going to sponsor free WEAPONS at a drunken webmaster convention. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen! Our models deal with the same groping, etc at shows, we usually solve the problem by not leaving them unescorted. When there is a problem, the offending convention-goer is first given an "educational" warning, and on 2nd offense I've seen people kicked in the nuts, poked in the eye, or slapped into a wall. There are MANY stand up people usually hanging around that are happy to help out any woman in distress.

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Ok, while I understand what you are trying to accomplish, I'm sure no one is going to sponsor free WEAPONS at a drunken webmaster convention. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen! Our models deal with the same groping, etc at shows, we usually solve the problem by not leaving them unescorted. When there is a problem, the offending convention-goer is first given an "educational" warning, and on 2nd offense I've seen people kicked in the nuts, poked in the eye, or slapped into a wall. There are MANY stand up people usually hanging around that are happy to help out any woman in distress.

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Old 06-16-2005, 07:04 PM   #67
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I don't get it... you get out of control on a message board, you get banned.
You drink and drive, you lose your license.

So if someone gets drunk and gets out of control at an industry event, I propose that they be banned from future events... either permanently or temporarily.... like a year (as with losing a driver's license).

It's not fair that someone can do what has happened with Arika, Vanilla and the other girls, and the guy just goes back to work and then the next convention as if nothing happened.... all the while saying "hey, I was drunk... I can't be held responsible."

If you did that same thing at a non-porn related trade show or convention, you'd be walking out in cuffs, much less kicked out, much less banned from the next one.

What do we do? "Hey, it's porn... just because a woman is naked on her website, doesn't mean you should grope her... bad!"

That just doesn't cut it.

Now Arika, as well as other girls need to go to the next show and wonder.... will it happen here too?

Well, they can't be spared from all of the creeps, but perhaps they should be spared from having to see the creep that did it last time.

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STEVEEEEE!!! I want one of these ;)

Heheh...kidding. I actually prefer the nut-kicking suggestion
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STEVEEEEE!!! I want one of these ;)

Heheh...kidding. I actually prefer the nut-kicking suggestion
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Note to self : Start sending more traffic to LightSpeed just in case Steve sends Sweetums her own Desert Eagle!!!
Start sending more traffic to LightspeedCash just 'cause it ROCKS

I'm a pussycat at heart...but I won't tolerate being disrespected. Fortunately, I've always worked with people who didn't tolerate that either....the nut-kicking strategy was actually Steve's suggestion ;)
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It's disgusting and unfortunately you can't ban someone, but kicking the shit out of someone could easily put a stop to it. The first year Cybernet did the show in San Diego, I was with a ton of people at the Players Ball on the patio. This dude grabed my boob (he is an industry photograper, but I have no idea who he is) and I put a lit cigarette out on his tattoo, there were people wanting to smack him out but I figured the humiliation plus the burn mark were sufficient enough. It's sad that these industry girls have these freackin leeches clinging to them at the shows. There is simply no excuse. Regardless if she does solo girl, gg or hardcore double anal gangbang, nobody has a right to lay a finger on them! I agree with the Pepper Spray post...Idiots~
in this post not going on eather side of the issue. But what makes you think that " unfortunately you can't ban someone," umm this is not some public thing run buy the goverment, they sure can ban some one.
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Any of you people ever visit a message board called "Go Fuck Yourself"? It's a place "where the industry meets" to talk about women as pieces of meat and where being insulting and aggressive is regarded as an effective marketing tactic. It's a place where a bit of third-rate drama runs to more posts and views than a discussion about major changes affecting the industry.

So boards like GFY are just that: boards. No-one gets hurt and you aren't supposed to take them too seriously. But 365 days a year, they are setting the tone for our industry. Is it surprising if all that starts to spill over into real life?

Or maybe we are just kidding ourselves anyway and the tone of the boards comes from real life and not the other way around? Plenty of the people in this thread apparently think that violence is an appropriate response to a drunk getting out of hand. That's pretty much the way it is at the bar just up the road from here, but then who looks to red-neck bars in small mid-west towns to define acceptable standards of behavior?

Behaviour generally comes in a package. Not everyone with a foul mouth has a potential for violence. And not everyone who can be violent doesn't know - drunk or sober - how to treat women with some respect. But if some aspects of antisocial behaviour are considered acceptable, even cool, get a crowd together and you had better expect the others to appear sooner or later. Sooner, when you add alcohol to the mix...

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Adult.com runs 4 Webmaster Access shows a year, there is one person who is banned for trying to ruin it for all of us. In addition, there is someone else who is banned for doing damage at Internext shows. It should be no surprise at GFY that I am not a stranger to banning.
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Wrong for some of these "industry loosers" this will not stop them, it will stop other decent webmasters that don't fell like beeing rippedoff to see a bunch of drunk and drugged clowns tho
I couldn't agree more... You want to keep crap out of shows? Make sure they're real webmasters, affiliates, or sponsors.

I've got a list of "potential" sponsors so deep that I won't be able to do a review on each and every one of them on my review site for at least a year, and then... there will be more.

I've got plenty of cash, and coughing up $250-$300 isn't the issue. The ISSUE is, as an "atendee" I'm not going to hand over C-notes to "shake the hands of people" I already know online. As a matter of fact - Sponsors should be pissed.... I would be... How much is a booth? $2000 large? (at the least?)

I can't, won't and will not pay that kind of dough to "meet sponsors". Could I meet "girlie girl X?" Big fuckin YAY.

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If you did that same thing at a non-porn related trade show or convention, you'd be walking out in cuffs,

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The law is the same no matter where you are. porn convention or at church. If a crime happened it could have been reported.
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Adult.com runs 4 Webmaster Access shows a year, there is one person who is banned for trying to ruin it for all of us. In addition, there is someone else who is banned for doing damage at Internext shows. It should be no surprise at GFY that I am not a stranger to banning.
oh god, i hope I am not on that list for getting into the fight with that atm and peeing on it....it really had it coming, i swear!
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I couldn't agree more... You want to keep crap out of shows? Make sure they're real webmasters, affiliates, or sponsors.

I've got a list of "potential" sponsors so deep that I won't be able to do a review on each and every one of them on my review site for at least a year, and then... there will be more.

I've got plenty of cash, and coughing up $250-$300 isn't the issue. The ISSUE is, as an "atendee" I'm not going to hand over C-notes to "shake the hands of people" I already know online. As a matter of fact - Sponsors should be pissed.... I would be... How much is a booth? $2000 large? (at the least?)

I can't, won't and will not pay that kind of dough to "meet sponsors". Could I meet "girlie girl X?" Big fuckin YAY.

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Ok, while I understand what you are trying to accomplish, I'm sure no one is going to sponsor free WEAPONS at a drunken webmaster convention. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen!
Exactly.. and a total over-reaction. Pepper spray at a convention would result in a 6 page thread on GFY with someone taking photos of themselves spraying different webmasters as a gag.
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I think sponsors pay a pretty penny to be participate - to sponsor events - to offer bonuses - to offer gifts and what not.

In reference to this thread, I fail to see how raising the costs for the sponsor to participate will prevent 'surfers' from attending - or to prevent folks who can't control their hormones from harassing others.
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Good idea, but I dont think that it is going to happen, until someone gets arrested.
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i think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. the guy realized he fucked up and apologized, and im sure he learned his lesson now that hundreds of people who werent even there hate him. im surprised this doesnt happen more often at porn shows, ive seen this happen at the bar and parties plenty of times.
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i think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. the guy realized he fucked up and apologized, and im sure he learned his lesson now that hundreds of people who werent even there hate him. im surprised this doesnt happen more often at porn shows, ive seen this happen at the bar and parties plenty of times.
True... still, there's no excuse for it.

I don't even know exactly what happened, was it just some walk by groping?

I've had guys and girls slap my ass at the bar... and im a GUY, I imagine it happens alot more to girls. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and get over it, drunk people will be drunk people.

You can't excuse the behaviour, but people make mistakes. If you drop a mouse into a snake pit it's going to get bitten, you put a skantly clad woman into a room of drunk guys.... you get the point.
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I just read Aaron's post about exactly what happened... This groper guy sounds like he has serious issues, and should be barred from events.

No matter how drunk you are, you still have to take responsibility for your behaviour... intoxication is not an excuse for anything, especially violating someone else.
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I just read Aaron's post about exactly what happened... This groper guy sounds like he has serious issues, and should be barred from events.

No matter how drunk you are, you still have to take responsibility for your behaviour... intoxication is not an excuse for anything, especially violating someone else.
Exactly... the only people who think that he shouldn't have some kind of "punishment" enforced on him are the type of people who get drunk and hope that they can get away with it by sobering up and saying sorry.

There is no excuse... if you act this way when drunk, don't get drunk.

If you do, then you must be held accountable for your actions.
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Why would you bump this?

For fuck sake, read the dates man.

For those smart enough to read the date before posting, nothing has changed at shows, heh.
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