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  • Nysus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 7817
    #1

    Terms Of Service for a Hosting Company

    - **** reserves the right to change prices at any time. (meaning open-endedly at any time, including current clients that they could put their prices up)

    - **** reserves the right to refuse service and/or access to its servers to anyone. (meaning open-endedly at any time, including current clients, with no reason needed)

    Would you host with a company that has those in their terms of service?

    Price could go up 4x after you've built up your site(s) and make profit (with script installs which cost money, etc.. so not necessarily a free/cheap or easy move, and potentially loss of revenues and traffic levels)

    Company could simply decide they don't want you as a client anymore and have the same effect as stated above.

    Does anyone else think it shouldn't be so open-ended?

    I looked at National-Net's TOS and they actually guarantee 100% uptime, with 99% connectivity, and don't mention anything about price changes or being able to cut off a client for no reason; or is it implied that they could do that if they wanted?

    Matt
    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645
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    • Nysus
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2001
      • 7817
      #2
      Anyone?

      Matt
      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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        • SinSational
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2004
          • 1723
          #3
          the price hike is BS

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            • Nysus
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2001
              • 7817
              #4
              Originally posted by SinSational
              the price hike is BS
              It was explained to me that that line simply meant that they can change the prices listed on their website, and not specifically for clients, though the way it is currently written, by contract then they could hike the price up, to me anyways that's how it seems.

              Matt
              What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

              Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

              See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                • Alex
                  So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 10963
                  #5
                  Where did you find this?
                  Care about me?
                  Who?
                  Me!
                  Who?

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                    • SplitInfinity
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 3047
                      #6
                      Host with SplitInfinity.... We dont do that crap to ya. :-)

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                        • Nysus
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 7817
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Alex
                          Where did you find this?
                          Is it common for terms to be so broad and not protecting the client in case of problems?

                          Matt
                          What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                          Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                          See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                            • Veterans Day
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 8403
                              #8
                              your best bet is to form a serious bond with your host, professionally and personally and these issues will never arise
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                                • SomeCreep
                                  :glugglug
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Nysus
                                  - **** reserves the right to change prices at any time. (meaning open-endedly at any time, including current clients that they could put their prices up)

                                  - **** reserves the right to refuse service and/or access to its servers to anyone. (meaning open-endedly at any time, including current clients, with no reason needed)

                                  Would you host with a company that has those in their terms of service?

                                  Price could go up 4x after you've built up your site(s) and make profit (with script installs which cost money, etc.. so not necessarily a free/cheap or easy move, and potentially loss of revenues and traffic levels)

                                  Company could simply decide they don't want you as a client anymore and have the same effect as stated above.

                                  Does anyone else think it shouldn't be so open-ended?

                                  I looked at National-Net's TOS and they actually guarantee 100% uptime, with 99% connectivity, and don't mention anything about price changes or being able to cut off a client for no reason; or is it implied that they could do that if they wanted?

                                  Matt
                                  Those are standard terms of service. Nothing to worry about.

                                  Webair Hosting

                                  I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

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                                    • Nysus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 7817
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                      Those are standard terms of service. Nothing to worry about.
                                      Really? Pretty scary to think about especially if say you have $20k worth of script install costs.

                                      Thanks for your input too Veteran.

                                      Matt
                                      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                        • scooby doo as scooby does
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 314
                                          #11
                                          The first one is not normal. The second one kinda is, although sometimes it's predicated by some form of 'in the event of misuse or illegal content, spam, abuse of AUP or something.'
                                          I would not host with any company who gave themselves the right to alter the contract like that, it leaves you open to all kinds of possible problems.
                                          I should clarify this by saying 'in my experience', which basically means unmanaged dedicateds.
                                          Last edited by scooby doo as scooby does; 06-15-2005, 03:57 AM.
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                                            • Nysus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 7817
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does
                                              The first one is not normal. The second one kinda is, although sometimes it's predicated by some form of 'in the event of misuse or illegal content, spam, abuse of AUP or something.'
                                              I would not host with any company who gave themselves the right to alter the contract like that, it leaves you open to all kinds of possible problems.
                                              I should clarify this by saying 'in my experience', which basically means unmanaged dedicateds.
                                              The second one initially states that they have the right in the event of misuse, but then it's followed by we "have the right to refuse service and/or access to its servers to anyone."

                                              Regarding the first one, I think they should adjust it to state what they say they mean, as in that their listed prices can change, but that it wouldn't affect what current clients pay; as in, the rate they initially pay is a fixed rate.

                                              Is that not standard?

                                              Matt
                                              What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                              Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                              See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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