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Old 06-14-2005, 04:40 PM   #1
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Anyone like UFC?

With boxing and pro wrestling (i know i know) being so crappy nowadays, at least theres one sport that continues to improve.

UFC domestically and Pride in Japan are both having awesome events this year. Get into it. It's a great excuse to go to Vegas too.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:16 PM   #2
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UFC and Pride FC! I don't watch anything else!
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I prefer Pride... UFC is absolute crud...
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I've been watching a lot of both UFC and Pride....
I've lost interest in Pro Wrestling...
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:27 PM   #7
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i was gonna join UFC, but i thought i would give the other fighters a chance..... wouldn't be too much of a sport if it was just me winning every single fight, ya know?
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:29 PM   #9
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I prefer Pride... UFC is absolute crud...
this is a common sentiment. it is also complete horseshit.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:31 PM   #10
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this is a common sentiment. it is also complete horseshit.
not complete horseshit just the truth... look at the people who 'mostly' watch ufc it's a bunch of bandwagon supporting poofs who converted from wwe cause of that reality show (yes i'm generalising)...
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:43 PM   #12
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not complete horseshit just the truth... look at the people who 'mostly' watch ufc it's a bunch of bandwagon supporting poofs who converted from wwe cause of that reality show (yes i'm generalising)...
not only are you generalizing but you're completely missing the point. ufc sucks because of its alleged fanbase? sounds completely logical to me. i tend to tune in for the fights and not who is in attendance.
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not only are you generalizing but you're completely missing the point. ufc sucks because of its alleged fanbase? sounds completely logical to me. i tend to tune in for the fights and not who is in attendance.
well the attendance is what drives the market... THEY ARE THE ONES WHO BRING IN THE $$$... and if you have seen lately on ufc they're just getting more and more big hitters to please the idiots in the crowd... how often do you see the ufc boo and get all angry cause of fights on the ground...
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Can't wait for the next UFC Challenge. If the final was anything like this year it'll be worth a lot of the fluff between fights.
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well the attendance is what drives the market... THEY ARE THE ONES WHO BRING IN THE $$$... and if you have seen lately on ufc they're just getting more and more big hitters to please the idiots in the crowd... how often do you see the ufc boo and get all angry cause of fights on the ground...
i was live for the last two and only heard booing when the action slowed to a snail's pace (standing or on the ground). it does seem like they're bringing in more standup guys but there are still plenty of fights that go to the ground (karo/serra) and the crowds i've been in have gone apeshit for really technical groundwork. the loudest i've heard a ufc crowd ever get was for trigg/hughes 2 which was almost all grappling.
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not complete horseshit just the truth... look at the people who 'mostly' watch ufc it's a bunch of bandwagon supporting poofs who converted from wwe cause of that reality show (yes i'm generalising)...
oh, I see
one of those "it's cool until everyone else starts to like it, then it sucks" things...
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its pretty brutal i find!!
yah, my girlfriend won't watch it either.. she says it's "stupid" .... pffft its damn entertaining
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oh, I see
one of those "it's cool until everyone else starts to like it, then it sucks" things...
nope i've never liked ufc... i've always enjoyed pride... but what happens when you get a whole bunch of bandwagon poofs is that the sport suffers because all they want to see are two people slugging it out...
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K-1 rulez! much better than UFC or Pride....but I still prefer to watch Kyokushin tournaments
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K-1 rulez! much better than UFC or Pride....but I still prefer to watch Kyokushin tournaments
Why is that? Because most of those fuckers can't fight in all ranges of combat?

Please.

Even K1 is going MMA with their own offshoot.
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Why is that? Because most of those fuckers can't fight in all ranges of combat?

Please.

Even K1 is going MMA with their own offshoot.
different fighting all together? thats like saying boxing sucks because they don't fight on the floor...

i think k1 is pretty awesome if you want to watch standup fighting...
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yah, my girlfriend won't watch it either.. she says it's "stupid" .... pffft its damn entertaining
same here, my girlfriend hates when it is on PPV.
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The first UFC fight I watched was just the other month when Chuck knocked out that other dude for the title...

...I was actually impressed, was a decent fight and looked legit, very unlike the bullshit pro wrestling crap I was expecting...

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...but I still prefer to watch Kyokushin tournaments
that's a fun form, I messed with that for a little while...shins to thighs definitely works...but not sure how well they'd hold up on the floor...

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different fighting all together? thats like saying boxing sucks because they don't fight on the floor...

i think k1 is pretty awesome if you want to watch standup fighting...
Boxing does suck, because it won't hold up against MMA.

As a part of MMA, it's integral.

Hell, Tyson did a standing armbar his last fight, in mma you escape or tapout.
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i was gonna join UFC, but i thought i would give the other fighters a chance..... wouldn't be too much of a sport if it was just me winning every single fight, ya know?
Thats real solid of you man... you rarely see such a selfless act like the one you showed here.

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Thats real solid of you man... you rarely see such a selfless act like the one you showed here.

andy you know how it is man.. i just don't even know my own strength anymore. i feel i would be too much of a danger and when it gets that serious, its not just a sport anymore.. its life and death..

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different fighting all together? thats like saying boxing sucks because they don't fight on the floor...

i think k1 is pretty awesome if you want to watch standup fighting...
Did you watch Marco Ruas fighting?
I think he was an awesome fighter...but those were the good times on UFC...

Have you ever seen a fight from Andy Hug?
go to sherdog site and take a look at his fights....he was one of the best fighters that has ever been....

and in case you dont know Mirco Cro Cop that won a few fights on Pride is a former K-1 fighter....a very good one....
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Did you watch Marco Ruas fighting?
I think he was an awesome fighter...but those were the good times on UFC...

Have you ever seen a fight from Andy Hug?
go to sherdog site and take a look at his fights....he was one of the best fighters that has ever been....

and in case you dont know Mirco Cro Cop that won a few fights on Pride is a former K-1 fighter....a very good one....
Andy Hug is dead, so we'll never know how he would fare in MMA.

Marco Ruas is a great fighter, and trainer.

Mirko that has won a few fights in Pride has done so because he took his stand up and added in BJJ, because you have to know how to fight in all ranges.
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Andy Hug is dead, so we'll never know how he would fare in MMA.

Marco Ruas is a great fighter, and trainer.

Mirko that has won a few fights in Pride has done so because he took his stand up and added in BJJ, because you have to know how to fight in all ranges.
I never said you dont need to know how to fight on all ranges...I just said that I prefer to watch fighters standing than fightin on the ground...
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Did you watch Marco Ruas fighting?
I think he was an awesome fighter...but those were the good times on UFC...

Have you ever seen a fight from Andy Hug?
go to sherdog site and take a look at his fights....he was one of the best fighters that has ever been....

and in case you dont know Mirco Cro Cop that won a few fights on Pride is a former K-1 fighter....a very good one....
yes i have seen andy hug... his sweet ko of bernardo was awesome... rip

yes i've seen ruas and crocop...
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god stop comparing fighting like k1 and boxing to mma... these people aren't trained to be ground fighters... it's like comparing chalk n cheese...
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god stop comparing fighting like k1 and boxing to mma... these people aren't trained to be ground fighters... it's like comparing chalk n cheese...
100% right!
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I love k1 for being a tournament where you can see fighters fight a couple of matches as long as they win!

I love UFC, but they have to do something about grappling problem, it takes to long.... but on the other hand its nice to see someone in guard receiving 12 knock out bangers and still get outta there...

With UFC they have to stop the fighters being able to talk to much in the microphone, some of them get really disrespectfull... getting towards the fake drama like WWF...

Martial Arts has always been respectfull sports.... Cut off the microphones and lets get it on!
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I love k1 for being a tournament where you can see fighters fight a couple of matches as long as they win!

I love UFC, but they have to do something about grappling problem, it takes to long.... but on the other hand its nice to see someone in guard receiving 12 knock out bangers and still get outta there...

With UFC they have to stop the fighters being able to talk to much in the microphone, some of them get really disrespectfull... getting towards the fake drama like WWF...

Martial Arts has always been respectfull sports.... Cut off the microphones and lets get it on!
oh totally... someone has to teach tito ortiz to shut the fuck up...
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god stop comparing fighting like k1 and boxing to mma... these people aren't trained to be ground fighters... it's like comparing chalk n cheese...
Whoa homie!

I never compared them, only my distaste for it. I'll only watch boxing events if it's a championship fight, other than that, not really interested.

As for comparing them, I wasn't the one who brought up Mirko Cro Cop beinga K1 fighter and doing well in Pride.
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I love k1 for being a tournament where you can see fighters fight a couple of matches as long as they win!

I love UFC, but they have to do something about grappling problem, it takes to long.... but on the other hand its nice to see someone in guard receiving 12 knock out bangers and still get outta there...

With UFC they have to stop the fighters being able to talk to much in the microphone, some of them get really disrespectfull... getting towards the fake drama like WWF...

Martial Arts has always been respectfull sports.... Cut off the microphones and lets get it on!
You are on drugs Nick.

First UFC was a tournament, in fact the first 4 were. It showed the world that Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, Japanese Jiu Jitsu, Kenpo, etc. had absolutely no chance against Gracie/Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. I guess it's because prior to 1993, no one worried about the grappling "problem".

Do you hate the grappling "problem" because you don't understand it, or can't defend against it?

As for the shit talking, that happens in boxing all the time, heard of Ali? Were any of his fights fake? Or maybe that parkinson he has now is just another marketing ploy?

MMA is not TMA. There is respect, there are hugs and handshakes after fights, yes from those same fighters that talked shit to each other before.

Get with the times Bro. You trained in one of the cornerstone styles in MMA. Muay Thai kicks and strikes are used all the time, because they are effective, and because they tie in with a shoot or pummeling so well.

The Phillipines have been keeping up in the MMA world, take a look and maybe train. http://www.pinoymma.com/
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The grappling problem LMAO .... Jeez.... Grappling is the most exciting technical part of fighting. If you understood the game you would love it. Of course everyone loves the one punch knock out... But I would rather watch a technical ground fight over a stand up match any day.

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I love UFC, but they have to do something about grappling problem, it takes to long.... but on the other hand its nice to see someone in guard receiving 12 knock out bangers and still get outta there...

With UFC they have to stop the fighters being able to talk to much in the microphone, some of them get really disrespectfull... getting towards the fake drama like WWF...

Martial Arts has always been respectfull sports.... Cut off the microphones and lets get it on!
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Mirko's BJJ is untested, but he has the best sprawl/takedown defense in MMA.

Ruas is awesome. Track down his movie with Bas Rutten "The Eliminator." Classic B-Movie. Get drunk with your bros and let the good times roll.

UFC's were tournaments past the first 10. I have this great 5 VHS boxed set of the first 5 and then random other old UFCs.

Who's going to win the Grand Prix? I'd love to see Sakuraba or Igor, but i gotta go with Silva or Lil Nog.
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Mirko's BJJ is untested, but he has the best sprawl/takedown defense in MMA.

Ruas is awesome. Track down his movie with Bas Rutten "The Eliminator." Classic B-Movie. Get drunk with your bros and let the good times roll.

UFC's were tournaments past the first 10. I have this great 5 VHS boxed set of the first 5 and then random other old UFCs.

Who's going to win the Grand Prix? I'd love to see Sakuraba or Igor, but i gotta go with Silva or Lil Nog.
yeah i'd love to see sakuraba win it but it ain't gonna happen... i think igor might win it... silva looked way way small in his last fight against yoshida...
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:06 PM   #48
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I think Silva is off the juice. Hopefully planning on a future main event or title fight in the states =)

Probably wishful thinking. His traps used to look huge though.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:22 PM   #49
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I think Silva will be winning it again.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:38 PM   #50
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With boxing and pro wrestling (i know i know) being so crappy nowadays, at least theres one sport that continues to improve.

UFC domestically and Pride in Japan are both having awesome events this year. Get into it. It's a great excuse to go to Vegas too.
Agreed, Wrestling became watered-downed and more like a soap opera years ago - quantity over quality, I guess (Ditto for boxing). The real passion, intensity that the UFC brings is refreshing. Hope it gets more exposure in the future!
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