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Alex · 06-12-2005, 09:09 AM

50 p2p uploads.

$5 submissions · 06-12-2005, 09:10 AM

Dude, where's woj? ;)

xlogger · 06-12-2005, 09:10 AM

I tell you one thing, get going now because after a while limiewire will start filtering/banning IPS after seeing the problem.

Alex · 06-12-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Dude, where's woj? ;)

Its 9 AM.

Post bots need rest too.

kernelpanic · 06-12-2005, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

I tell you one thing, get going now because after a while limiewire will start filtering/banning IPS after seeing the problem.

Its easy to get more of those

Besides, they haven't banned the RIAA-hired goons who seed millions of bogus music files yet, so why would they ban small to medium sized porn spammers?

Alex · 06-12-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

I tell you one thing, get going now because after a while limiewire will start filtering/banning IPS after seeing the problem.

I have never really tried, but i pretty much think i know how it is done.

Also, you said the same file with different names wont get picked up, how does it know it is the same file?

And i dont want to host the files off my PC, but how do you host them off a server and how much BW do you burn?

Antonio · 06-12-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

how does he know that he got x amount of hits from one file and y hits from another file, if he just puts a watermark of a url on every image?

unless he puts a different url on every image... then it's possible

these are the stats form his p2p client - they show that
file#1 was downloaded 1500 times
file#2 was downlaoded 1345 times
etc

I'm not familiar with LimeWare so I could be worng, but I don't think I am

p.s. I sent you an email back ;)

alexg · 06-12-2005, 09:13 AM

btw I'm wandering what spammers usually promote this way

the traffic must be crap when it comes to buying anything

$1 email programs?

Alex · 06-12-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

btw I'm wandering what spammers usually promote this way

the traffic must be crap when it comes to buying anything

$1 email programs?

Most likely. Usually programs that offer free shit in exchange for an email.

SO email programs for free/$1 trials maybe.

Crypt · 06-12-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

you do, that's why don't excpect miracles
another good trick is to write something useful like a e-book (ding ding) and share it

Prob is you get 10 download for a ebook compiled with a exe when you have 200k download for a video

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

you could share movies with a pop-up to your site but Mr Gates took care of that

He took care of the old 1997 trick, there is 2 trick you can use again. Just need to read the fine print in Media Player manual. If you read carefully, you will notice you can use a banner rotator in real time direct inside your movies pulled direct from your server. If 100k of your videos are shared over p2p , you can modify banners in real time on all of them. You can also open console, etc etc

alexg · 06-12-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Also, you said the same file with different names wont get picked up, how does it know it is the same file?

exact same filesize... image size maybe?

kernelpanic · 06-12-2005, 09:17 AM

If the surfers had credit cards and were willing to spend the usual $30/month for porn, then they wouldn't be looking for porn on p2p

Alex · 06-12-2005, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg

exact same filesize... image size maybe?

I have hundreds of diff files on my comp with same file size

kernelpanic · 06-12-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

exact same filesize... image size maybe?

Lime is indexed by sha1, although I'm sure they do some additional, unreported checking for blatantly duplicate crap like this.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-12-2005, 09:19 AM

That does not mean anything.

Problem with P2P is pulling the traffic and getting them on Webpages that sell them and ultimatly provide ya with a sign up.

p2p is suicide without DRM.

alexg · 06-12-2005, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I have hundreds of diff files on my comp with same file size

well, depends on how accurately you measure the filesize..

I don't think you have hundreds of files that are exactly x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx mb

well you get the point..

and there's also the size of the images in pixels..

but these are just ideas i'm raising.. i have no clue how limewire does it.

Damian_Maxcash · 06-12-2005, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

If the surfers had credit cards and were willing to spend the usual $30/month for porn, then they wouldn't be looking for porn on p2p

Ever heard of TGP?

Quanity, quantity, quantity + a little quality helps

kernelpanic · 06-12-2005, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

That does not mean anything.

Problem with P2P is pulling the traffic and getting them on Webpages that sell them and ultimatly provide ya with a sign up.

p2p is suicide without DRM.

At the very least, you could send them to a popup/autoinstaller laden page and still make money, if it was blind traffic. It costs almost nothing to generate this kind of traffic, even if it is complete crap.

Antonio · 06-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I have hundreds of diff files on my comp with same file size

the files:

01010101
and
01010101
'look' the same to a computer
but the file:
00000100
looks different although the three of them might be the same size ;)

alexg · 06-12-2005, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

the files:

01010101
and
01010101
'look' the same to a computer
but the file:
00000100
looks different although the three of them might be the same size ;)

true, and also when we speak about image files (10k-100k) these are huge files compared to '101010101' so it is VERY unlikely that two different images will have the exact same size to the very last bit.

kernelpanic · 06-12-2005, 09:33 AM

This is how limewire determines "unique" files:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA1

Many p2p apps use this or another algorithm (md5), which are both collision resistant enough from a spammers perspective to be considered identical.

Antonio · 06-12-2005, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt

Prob is you get 10 download for a ebook compiled with a exe when you have 200k download for a video

chm, catchy file names, thousands of instances in your shared folder (just add a word or two so they are not seen as duplicates)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt

He took care of the old 1997 trick, there is 2 trick you can use again. Just need to read the fine print in Media Player manual. If you read carefully, you will notice you can use a banner rotator in real time direct inside your movies pulled direct from your server. If 100k of your videos are shared over p2p , you can modify banners in real time on all of them. You can also open console, etc etc

thanks for the info

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-12-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

At the very least, you could send them to a popup/autoinstaller laden page and still make money, if it was blind traffic. It costs almost nothing to generate this kind of traffic, even if it is complete crap.

Yeah.
People love that I heard.

Which is why P2P is like squeezing blood from a lemon.

breaker · 06-12-2005, 09:48 AM

I would like to find a working linux terminal client. Anyone?

Theo · 06-12-2005, 09:53 AM

no wonder some of you dont make real money

progressing from freeloaders to worst freeloaders lol

Rui · 06-12-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Ever heard of TGP?

Quanity, quantity, quantity + a little quality helps

in this case more like shit traffic to send to your trades...really nice

Rui · 06-12-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

no wonder some of you dont make real money

progressing from freeloaders to worst freeloaders lol

Exactly...some of you guys really should start working on other areas (no offense)

Antonio · 06-12-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

no wonder some of you dont make real money

progressing from freeloaders to worst freeloaders lol

haha

you didn't really read the thread, did you ;)

woj · 06-12-2005, 01:16 PM

I'm selling software to do this if anyone wants to give this traffic source a try -> ICQ: 33375924

djscrib · 06-14-2005, 01:57 PM

Well I've been using P2P drm advertising for awhile and admittedly the traffic is worse than other sources.

I use two affiliaites. Smashbucks which is converting at around 1:650 and AFF which is around 1:400 (including rebills so that ratio is probably a bit worse).

These numbers are based on unique IP click-thrus. I have around a 1:8 click-thru rate.

So not the best traffic out there, but not worthless either.

More Booze · 06-14-2005, 02:01 PM

So, how do you guys send traffic to sponsors?
When I tried it I used popups in wmv and asf files, but it doesn't work anymore under windows XP.

Fukeneh · 06-14-2005, 02:14 PM

p2p is dead. your wasting your time.

MikeHawk · 06-16-2005, 10:33 AM

Yesterdays news...............

Best part is left out, shitty files gets you nothing, except a bandwidth bill..durrr.

p2p...getting smarter all the time, we made a ton of money 4 years ago.....this is not big amazing thing, its old news, and its been "over done" ....quality is king in any area, you throw shit out there, you get shit back

MikeHawk · 06-16-2005, 10:37 AM

Just_Dave · 06-16-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

No.
.....

if you dont use drm you should check out all the promo content i have thats drm'd from 40 sponsors

tranza · 06-16-2005, 12:11 PM

What a waste o BW... That kind of traffic is worthless....

xlogger · 06-16-2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Yesterdays news...............

Best part is left out, shitty files gets you nothing, except a bandwidth bill..durrr.

p2p...getting smarter all the time, we made a ton of money 4 years ago.....this is not big amazing thing, its old news, and its been "over done" ....quality is king in any area, you throw shit out there, you get shit back

You're right dude.

No $ in p2ps.

naitirps · 06-16-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

No.
.....

pfft you should use www.smutlounge.com and at least get hits to your sponsor sites

NTSS · 06-16-2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

Todays stats from limewire from one of my servers. This is just 9 files, i have like 1000+ files.

Hey bro hit me up on ICQ please or email me

150803430

fireorange · 06-16-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Yesterdays news...............

Best part is left out, shitty files gets you nothing, except a bandwidth bill..durrr.

p2p...getting smarter all the time, we made a ton of money 4 years ago.....this is not big amazing thing, its old news, and its been "over done" ....quality is king in any area, you throw shit out there, you get shit back

Oh so true.

There's no money in newsgroup spamming or p2p spamming or SEO.

Let this thread die now.

kthnxbye.

fireorange · 06-16-2005, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

Besides, they haven't banned the RIAA-hired goons who seed millions of bogus music files yet, so why would they ban small to medium sized porn spammers?

You make it sound like what RIAA are doing is a bad thing.

For some reason I get a feeling you're a pathetic Slashdot geek who believes everything should be free? Remind me how great the Communist system and USSR was

fireorange · 06-16-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

If the surfers had credit cards and were willing to spend the usual $30/month for porn, then they wouldn't be looking for porn on p2p

Yep, same with TGP

AdultNex · 06-16-2005, 04:50 PM

Traffic doesn't matter if it doesn't convert.

AdultNex · 06-16-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by More Booze

So, how do you guys send traffic to sponsors?
When I tried it I used popups in wmv and asf files, but it doesn't work anymore under windows XP.

Doesn't DRM work with winXP?

xlogger · 08-24-2005, 05:57 PM

Everyone was wrong and i was right! HAHAHAHAHA

Nismo · 08-24-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

Everyone was wrong and i was right! HAHAHAHAHA

What happened to that "Karma" you were talking about?

You are nothing more than an child.

xlogger · 08-24-2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

What happened to that "Karma" you were talking about?

You are nothing more than an child.

What about it? Everyone desides to insult me and said i was wrong about this.

I was not wrong, so stfu.

Damian_Maxcash · 08-24-2005, 06:08 PM

Not everyone.....

adonthenet · 08-24-2005, 06:34 PM

xlogger where you got the stats from?!

nico-t · 08-24-2005, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

buy some content from a content provider that allowes you to distribute the pics via P2P and use 'real' pictures

when u buy content, the content is yours right? so i thought u can do whatever you want with it?

06-12-2005, 09:09 AM	#51
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06-12-2005, 09:10 AM	#52
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06-12-2005, 09:10 AM	#53
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06-12-2005, 09:13 AM	#58
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06-12-2005, 09:33 AM	#71
kernelpanic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,961	This is how limewire determines "unique" files: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA1 Many p2p apps use this or another algorithm (md5), which are both collision resistant enough from a spammers perspective to be considered identical. __________________ ZangoCash - Turn Your Traffic Into Ca$h. $.40 Per Install - No Tier

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06-12-2005, 09:53 AM	#75
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06-12-2005, 01:16 PM	#79
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06-14-2005, 01:57 PM	#80
djscrib Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 147	Well I've been using P2P drm advertising for awhile and admittedly the traffic is worse than other sources. I use two affiliaites. Smashbucks which is converting at around 1:650 and AFF which is around 1:400 (including rebills so that ratio is probably a bit worse). These numbers are based on unique IP click-thrus. I have around a 1:8 click-thru rate. So not the best traffic out there, but not worthless either. __________________ Vidlock DRM Service - Add DRM to your website today http://www.vidlock.com Coming Soon - Vidpass

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