200.,...,...

201........

how much was his sponsorship?

when is the ball?

i think im heading down there now actually.

Damm.. sorry to hear KB.

Ill bring some of bomb's cookies and a few C.A. blunts!

Pretty cool site there Chronic Avenger.

ADG Webmaster <jostling for blunt Bogart positioning>

KB ya did on good faith?

3K should have been paid.

Ya did alot of damage control and even had Brad calm down some in regards to the NATS Debacle. That's fucken priceless and you actually curbed it some.
That in itself is worth more than 3K.

Isn't it Sunday today?

so whats the result here

oh no doubt. we share :)

KB got screwed and Danz is too blame. Danza is a scumbag in my book and will always be.

I know more info then most and DD is a Grade A Doucebag.


Danza Bucks will be nothing more than a lost cause from this point on

So let it be written , so let it be done.

i always posts under a juicy post

Still no business sense, I see.

You had your chance to resolve this, you made the wrong descision back then after your chargeback and in your own mind / world you still believe I owe you something which still, until today, is not the case.

And yes, I'm doing well - thanx for your concern. :)

After all your loud-mouthing and yadda yadda I still wish you a good life and some better sense in making business-descisions.

Take care Joe.

so go ahead and remove the BP4L shit from your profile

5 pages and growing

This is why consulting rocks so hard.

KB, did I not warn you?

Well, here's an update.

First, I won't confirm or deny whether Danza has paid or not in hopes for a happy result for everyone.

I will say this though, http://www.OC3networks.com has offered to pay for half of that Main sponsorship to help the Players Ball cut some losses which is a very stand up thing to do and he certainly shouldn't have to do something like that.

I will agree to that sponsorship and I'll be glad to give him full credit on the next Players Ball for that dollar amount.

This Players Ball is a non profit event and I'm happy when the costs are covered.

Also, KB is not a Marketing Firm, KB is a PR Firm.

Big difference.

With PR, you just need to get the word out there, results would be nice, but that depends on the people who hear the message a PR person sends. If KB hopes for a referal on some press that's a bonus for him, but shouldn't be a part of a PR deal.

If PR worked that way, then shouldn't the AP news wire guarantee results too?

:2 cents:

Yes you did.

You should charge KB a consulting fee. I have a feeling it would be for $17k.

Just pay me the 500.00 bucks you stole and all will be well.

I understand you were on hard times then, but to fuck me when I considered you a friend was the bad move

I will keep asking until you pay, so prepare for me to be in every thread I seee you in, and definatly in your face at any show I see you at.

if you pay us the money you owe us, and apologize, then I will not be upset with you any longer

until then I will NEVER let it rest.

cool Joesho. I love drama in the afternoon :thumbsup

Thanks for the update - and kudos to OC3networks for stepping in to help out if needed. :thumbsup

I'm sure you will have a great party and celebration tomorrow night.

Cheers!!!

ADG Webmaster

Where are all the Danza sheep at?

Were they also involved in a motorcycle accident when they hit their 3 joins a day at a busy intersection.

Steve here is the message you sent Boldy and myself confirming our purchase was recieved by YOU. a week later and after more bullshit e-mails I attempted to charge paypal back, paypal gave us the $242.00 you had in your account, and shut you down for not responding to their request for over 30 days ( we had to wait the 30 days to recieve our 242 as you know)

so since we paid you $750.00 you still owe us $500.00 to make things right .

here is a copy paste of your copnfirmation e-mail ( I have all the rest as well dipshit, so pay us the money or I will post this in every thread I ever see you in )

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:39 AM
To: Boldy
Cc: [email protected]; 'Joe Jekel Productions'
Subject: Re: Joesho traffic deal

Patrick, Joe,


Just logged into paypal and saw that there were $29,55 of costs from the
payment.

Not too bad though.

I'll make the order within the next hours and will call you when the traffic
will start.

50k a day is ok and will last for 5 days with the existing payment that was
done.

Joe, please give me a call during tomorrow to discuss alternative payment
methods,the cut that paypal takes is redicilous ;-))

Cheers and all the best,

Steve - JOKER



"Boldy" <[email protected]> wrote ..
> Steven,
>
> I want to start slow say 50k per day
>
> The url to send the traffic to :
>
> http://traffic.69aa.com/cgi-bin/rndredir.cgi?c=1
>
> Thanks man keep me posted when the traffic should start pooring in, so
> I can keep an eye on the server performance ...
> Ttyl man
>
> Patrick

Here is the paypal complaint verifing that it was $750.00 you recieved .


Dear Joe Jekel,

Thank you for contacting PayPal. We have begun our investigation of the
following transaction:

------------------------------
Complaint Details
------------------------------

Transaction Date: Aug. 4, 2004
Transaction Amount: -$750.00 USD
Case Number: PP-045-122-923
Seller's Name: Steven Wells
Seller's Email: [email protected]



https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...PP-045-122-923

We will make every effort to resolve this claim within 30 days although we
may require additional time to complete our investigation.

Our investigation will be made on a best-effort basis and PayPal cannot
guarantee funds recovery. For more information about our Buyer Protection
Policy, please review the PayPal User Agreement at:

http://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/web.../ua/ua-outside

Sincerely,

PayPal Complaint Resolution


Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address will not be
received and therefore, not answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal
account and click the "Help" link in the footer of any page. If your
inquiry is regarding a claim, log in to your PayPal account and click the
pink Service Center link.

bump for a thief to do the right thing.

Danza sounds like a dirtbag

I have never not ever once seen Juicy say somthing like this.
I am flabergasted!

happy to pic up for you guys, KB abd D$, the show is fun and hope thaose that couldn't make it watched the stream last nite. We at OC3 Networks are happy to help. If you need hosting just come to the players ball.

yep, I am also waiting :(

Juicy Has Spoken

Indeed!!!!

juicy knows his shit and i'm more than willing to take his word for it.

Well We see things are starting to come together -
We could say this is the Big I told you So from Brad -
We know D$ has the Players Ball under control -
We know that OC3 Networks.com is stepping up to the plate with some extra Green :thumbsup

Now how do we feel about Juicy for President ?

Dirtbag Danza, catchy name......:)
No offense bro

you all have no idea whats going on.. and I feel I do not need to explain myself here in gfy.. I talked to d$.. KB did nothing for me.. and thats that.. http://www.danzabucks.com is rolling stronger than ever

If you're happy to spam shit, and tell people about the 'great' program you run, then you really should also 'explain yourself here in gfy' but that's just my :2 cents:

If you think you had a bad deal.. say so, otherwise you will be flamed as a scammer.. maybe Brad was right.

And what about paying folks for the galleries they did for you?

anyone who is due for a payout up till now has been paid.. as far as being scammed.. I think I was he says I was not I am not going to bad mouth KB I think he is a good guy and maybe we both had miscommunacation.. and I have tried to reach him a few times now so I am waiting to hear back...

If you made a deal with KB for a certain amount of money over a certain amount of time, and did not set specific targets for that money, that's your problem, it doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, you still owe him money.

No one cares that you simply talked to D$, what we want to know is did you pay him for your sponsorship in the Player's Ball (you're listed on the advertising as being a sponsor)?

As for your bragging about rolling bigger than ever - that appears in part because you appear to be stiffing and scamming people (designers, marketers, promoters, who are all part of GFY) - true or not?

Explanations are overdue and expected?

While your at it let's see some pix of your motorcycle injury.

Maybe everything you say is true (200 sign-ups a day, etc). If so, here is your chance to prove it.

You can even put a plug in for your fight with Kimbo.

Put up or shut up...

ADG Webmaster

KB and I never had a solid agreement thats the prob.. over the phone he said big affiliates.. fuck at least send affiliates that will make at least a grand a month then I will fork out the other 2 know what I mean.... as far as the players ball.. I am still on the list arent I ? even in the most rececnt post D did right? as for my accident

http://www.danzabucks.com/danzacrash.jpg

as for me and KIMBO I am planning during internext sometime.. gotta call mike and talk to him...

now get back and promote danzabucks

Okay, starting to hear you, but you have more explaining to do since:

1) Obviously you and KB don't agree.

2) Are you 100% paid up for the Player's Ball? If so, why did OC3 Networks have to step in and cover/partially cover your sponsorship?

3) Nice picture of a bike on the ground. So let's see...you crashed, flew 100-odd feet, received multiple broken ribs and a punctured lung, and just happened to be packing a camera, and were able to get up and shoot a picture of your bike? (Was expecting more like picture of stiches in your chest).

Once you fully explain, and every one vouches for you that you really paid them off, then I think your credibility will be restored.

ADG Webmaster

thats a cell phone pic from a bro I was with at the time...

BTW any way I can talk a 3 day user pass out of you... asians are my kryptonite

must..... resist.... overwhelming... urge.... to post pic of Bagdad Bob... :Oh crap

what is your excuse for ripping off D$ ??

never did .... is D$ in here posting that I ripped him off? if you check his last thread he made about the players ball I am still on there and will leave it at that

Leave out the smoke and mirrors...honestly, your replies are sounding sort of wimpy ("I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"...)

http://www.popeye-n-olive.com/image/tuesday2.jpg

Obviously D$ and KB, nor the designers, et al, are in here giving their perspective, so since I am not a principal to any of the proceedings, I can only go by what I hear.

Anyway, read the questions again, sharpen your pencil, and give us the answers you would expect if you were asking the questions.

Who knows? You might even get a 3-day pass out of this (you just have to promise to be nice to my models, LOL - like that's gonna happen).

ADG Webmaster

Danza, I don't entend to come down on you for things you are acused or labled as. I just have to say I feel your making a mistake where KB is conserned. Even if he isn't bringing you big fish. I feel you lack some skill in dealing with your public image with adultwebmasters. KB started and could have helped you out with that big time. It just feels that you are shy about dealing with problems that get in public view. Or maybe your in denial. ( shrugs ) I do not think that tact works very well for your image. You could use a PR firm or person. KB is choise I think 3 K a month was cheep for the amount of trubles that seam to surround you.

I have to agree with this statement.

Dirty I'm not saying your bad person or would go into a deal with the intent to Not Pay. However you really should post a few facts and get this behind us all.