Paul Markham's 2257 announcement - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 02:34 AM

Paul Markham's 2257 announcement.

Eva and I have discussed this together and with our lawyers. And have come to this conclusion.

Models are the lifeblood of our company. Customers and affiliates are important but we feel that so long as we can supply the steady stream of quality models, they will continue to buy or promote us. If we stop getting these good models sales and traffic will decrease.

We also have an agreement with them to not allow the widespread distribution of their IDs.

Therefore the facility for customers to distribute our Models Ids, real names and details will remain UNACCEPTABLE as it already states on our licenses. We will not alter the license in the future or past licenses.

This may well cost us clients, however better to lose a few clients than to lose models and gain the reputation of not caring about models safety.

We have taken some action to assist content store clients who are sponsors wishing to give out softcore image sets to affiliates. These sets SPONSORS SOFTCORE IMAGE SETS are available for sponsors to buy. There will be a limit of 5 licenses sold and then the set will be deleted. This is old content and any client who bought these sets for their own use is welcome to contact me to get the set replaced. If this solution works we will be shooting sets specifically for this section.

On Bargain Basement Content Store the license will continue to allow distribution of the content to affiliates. However it will still be UNACCEPTABLE to distribute MODELS IDs and details. If this means you can no longer buy from this store then fine.

Paul Markham Content Store does not allow distribution of content to affiliates, except on the SOFTCORE SETS mentioned above.

On PAUL MARKHAM TEENS we will give out softcore free content for US affiliates and hardcore free content for non US affiliates. I respect the actions of others sponsors, but this is a US law and I do not see why non US companies and affiliates should be hampered by it. Those targeting US traffic had best get their documentation in order to comply with the law.

We will also be adding softcore free hosted galleries to the hardcore ones already there. We will also ensure that a gallery is not over exposed, as content producers we can keep a steady flow of unsaturated content on the galleries.

I appreciate that this law amendment will be tough on many, however we will not put models at risk, break the laws of our country or harm our company and it's employees welfare.

DamageX · 06-09-2005, 02:38 AM

Theo · 06-09-2005, 02:40 AM

Completely agree. I was sure you wouldn't do the mistake.

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 02:58 AM

Also as the number of affiliates on www.paulmarkhamteens.com grow we may be using different sets for driving traffic, at the moment it so small it will not effect anyone.

In the future we don't want any conflict of interest.

flashfreak · 06-09-2005, 03:00 AM

Class act! Reputation and models care first,not money.

Good move!

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flashfreak

Class act! Reputation and models care first,not money.

Good move!

No it's all about the money.

I want a steady stream of good models working for us, today and in the future. I also want to be in an industry that is supplying porn featuring the best models possible. If we as an industry start to reveal models identities we all suffer.

Some may think it's "Get Rich Quick" opportunity. They will learn it's not.

rockbear · 06-09-2005, 04:20 AM

A content provider who dosen't want to give us the 2257 with ID'S.? But Paul who will buy your set now? I mean affiliates, link list, SE site, TGP, MPG's who's looking to buy some sets with the 2257 docs, they will buy from a content provider who will give all the info to be compliant you don't think?

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rockbear

A content provider who dosen't want to give us the 2257 with ID'S.? But Paul who will buy your set now? I mean affiliates, link list, SE site, TGP, MPG's who's looking to buy some sets with the 2257 docs, they will buy from a content provider who will give all the info to be compliant you don't think?

We have always given the info to our clients, this is about them giving it to their affilaites, did I not make that clear?

ffmihai · 06-09-2005, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rockbear

A content provider who dosen't want to give us the 2257 with ID'S.? But Paul who will buy your set now? I mean affiliates, link list, SE site, TGP, MPG's who's looking to buy some sets with the 2257 docs, they will buy from a content provider who will give all the info to be compliant you don't think?

yeah.. i mean you think you will loose only affew clients?

06-09-2005, 04:39 AM

Paul, I have taken the liberty to put your info at http://www.galleryfillers.com if you want to take a look please.

rockbear · 06-09-2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

We have always given the info to our clients, this is about them giving it to their affilaites, did I not make that clear?

Humm Maybe my mistake... So if we buy some hardcore set and that we are not a sponsor, are you gonna give us the right 2257 docs?

Thanks for your answer Paul

diesel · 06-09-2005, 04:46 AM

One of the few content providers which was organized with the docs from the start.

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ffmihai

yeah.. i mean you think you will loose only affew clients?

Not as many clients as we will lose by giving out documents.

How hard will it be to get girls to work for the Internet when they find out we are giving documents to people who give them to 1,000s or affiliates?

We will suffer and so will you, because the only thing that keeps people paying $29.95 a month is the porn. Start restricting the choice and quaility of models and you will soon discover what is really king in the porn industry PORN.

Simply because the porn makes them log onto the Internet so the traffic people can direct them. Do you really want to work in a second rate industry?

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

Paul, I have taken the liberty to put your info at http://www.galleryfillers.com if you want to take a look please.

Thank you.

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Humm Maybe my mistake... So if we buy some hardcore set and that we are not a sponsor, are you gonna give us the right 2257 docs?

Thanks for your answer Paul

Clients get 2257 documents, that are them and them alone. So if you buy, because WE can see who you are we can give you the documents.

Sponsors who want content for affilaites can now buy these sets http://www.paulmarkham.com/softcore.php which are on limited sale so as not to saturate the market.

Kimmykim · 06-09-2005, 06:38 AM

Well, Paul, for once I not only agree with you, I also have no problem saying so on the boards.

LadyMischief · 06-09-2005, 07:12 AM

Stand up job, Paul. I must agree with KimmyKim, we aren't always on the same page, but I'm sending you a virtual slap on the back now

Terry · 06-09-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

On PAUL MARKHAM TEENS we will give out softcore free content for US affiliates and hardcore free content for non US affiliates. I respect the actions of others sponsors, but this is a US law and I do not see why non US companies and affiliates should be hampered by it. Those targeting US traffic had best get their documentation in order to comply with the law.

My hat goes off to Paul Markham and Eva. Finally someone allows non US affiliates to use hardcore - and admits it to everyone. You bet I will start promoting this site!

Thanks Paul and Eva!!!

FilthyRob · 06-09-2005, 08:10 AM

I think moves like this will possibly show the law makers that this new reg about the secondary producer is just adding too much risk to people.

Rui · 06-09-2005, 08:11 AM

Nice going Paul, wouldn't expect nothing else from you tho

NaughtyRob · 06-09-2005, 08:13 AM

Nice statement Paul.

Donny · 06-09-2005, 08:22 AM

Good Job Paul!

tungsten · 06-09-2005, 08:24 AM

well done Paul

KRL · 06-09-2005, 08:26 AM

Its sad to say, but I think once one model becomes a victim because her info was disclosed, the govt will get sued and then go back and rethink this particular requirement.

SGS · 06-09-2005, 08:30 AM

Good move Paul.

BradShaw · 06-09-2005, 09:05 AM

Models are sheep................. We will be passing out ID's are required by law and as allowed in our model releases.

iwantchixx · 06-09-2005, 10:21 AM

Paul, just a heads up. Correct me if I am wrong but if you are selling those softcore sets as ones not needing documentation you should check with your lawyer about it again. Some of them would be in violation without documentation because of the dildo. It's pretty stupid but it's open to be percieved as explicit. Again, correct me if I am wrong.

iwantchixx · 06-09-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Its sad to say, but I think once one model becomes a victim because her info was disclosed, the govt will get sued and then go back and rethink this particular requirement.

hardly, the government don't care if evil porn actresses get killed. It means less family ruining porr out there.

Think about it.

It's the perfect way to get models to stop working.

dopeman · 06-09-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

hardly, the government don't care if evil porn actresses get killed. It means less family ruining porr out there.

Think about it.

It's the perfect way to get models to stop working.

all under the guise of 'saving the fucking children'. the idiocy of this country knows no bounds.

Kimmykim · 06-09-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry

My hat goes off to Paul Markham and Eva. Finally someone allows non US affiliates to use hardcore - and admits it to everyone. You bet I will start promoting this site!

Thanks Paul and Eva!!!

NO ONE is saying that non US affiliates cannot buy their own content from ANY content producer and use it however they wish. This is a content producers decision that is basically the same as Lightspeed, TNACash, etc.

If the SPONSOR buys the content from Paul Markham, they will get the ids. They CAN NOT give the ids to their affiliates in order to make them compliant. If their affiliates CHOOSE to BUY content from Paul, they will get the ids just like anyone else purchasing would.

What is so hard to understand about this?

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Stand up job, Paul. I must agree with KimmyKim, we aren't always on the same page, but I'm sending you a virtual slap on the back now

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

Well, Paul, for once I not only agree with you, I also have no problem saying so on the boards.

I must be on the right track then.

Sly · 06-09-2005, 11:39 AM

Bargain Basement content is like $5-15 a set. I have tons of it. Any of you affiliates upset that your sponsor can't give you the IDs, go buy the sets so you won't have to take down your sites.

Though I still am having trouble understanding why content providers are willing to give out IDs for $5, but will not allow sponsors to give them out. Do you really think that $5 fee is enough to separate stalkers with legitimate clients? Yeh, right! Stalkers would be willing to spend 10x that without batting an eyelash.

StuBradley · 06-09-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

...We also have an agreement with them to not allow the widespread distribution of their IDs.

You have an agreement with your models and you seem firm in your decision, so why did it take so long to make the announcement?

MaDalton · 06-09-2005, 11:53 AM

excellent, paul! we feel exactly the same about this situation and since protecting the girls is the most important part for doing successful business in the future we will follow your example and change our license agreements according to that.

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Bargain Basement content is like $5-15 a set. I have tons of it. Any of you affiliates upset that your sponsor can't give you the IDs, go buy the sets so you won't have to take down your sites.

Though I still am having trouble understanding why content providers are willing to give out IDs for $5, but will not allow sponsors to give them out. Do you really think that $5 fee is enough to separate stalkers with legitimate clients? Yeh, right! Stalkers would be willing to spend 10x that without batting an eyelash.

We can make some checks on who buys, URLs, email address, credit card they buy with is on record and is checked. If we think something is dodgy we do decline the sale, which is why we do not have instant FTP. I doubt if many sponsors will be checking that closely.

But it's not fail safe, few things are. But the difference mainly is in the numbers. If 10 medium size sponsors distribute a set to affilaites how many does that entail? Maybe as few as 1,000.

If we sell a set it's unlikely to sell more than 100 times, 50 is a lot closer to the correct figure.

Simply a way of reducing the risk, eliminating it would be impossible.

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You have an agreement with your models and you seem firm in your decision, so why did it take so long to make the announcement?

Your lawyers may drop everything for you but ours are a bit busier. Plus I needed time to read the law and think about it. Still not totally clear on it though.

However in essence nothing has changed, the license we sold before is still in force and I did not see any immediate need to alter it. This statement just confirms the license.

ChrisExtreme · 06-09-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Though I still am having trouble understanding why content providers are willing to give out IDs for $5, but will not allow sponsors to give them out. Do you really think that $5 fee is enough to separate stalkers with legitimate clients? Yeh, right! Stalkers would be willing to spend 10x that without batting an eyelash.

Just a way for Pauly to make an extra buck.

Nydahl · 06-09-2005, 02:30 PM

I don't know Paul
Its honest idea and you have my respect for that but your girls are nothing special - means any1 shoot them and each of them is in 3 - 4 agencies around.They will be exposed anyway in few days
I consider this 2257situation as a proof of proffesionality - now we have a new rules so models must accept it if they are proffesionals as they say all the time.
Its really not easy
fuck that damn 2257 is problem in all ways - for everyone

MaDalton · 06-09-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

I don't know Paul
Its honest idea and you have my respect for that but your girls are nothing special - means any1 shoot them and each of them is in 3 - 4 agencies around.They will be exposed anyway in few days
I consider this 2257situation as a proof of proffesionality - now we have a new rules so models must accept it if they are proffesionals as they say all the time.
Its really not easy
fuck that damn 2257 is problem in all ways - for everyone

what models are professionals? maybe the ones that do hardcore - but not the pupils or students that do one or two days softcore a month. and you know that a lot of czech girls do that just to get some extra bucks - no way that they are professionals.

Nydahl · 06-09-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

what models are professionals? maybe the ones that do hardcore - but not the pupils or students that do one or two days softcore a month. and you know that a lot of czech girls do that just to get some extra bucks - no way that they are professionals.

thats what I am talking about
they are the first to accept this changing situation.
No hidden personalities now , no secrets for boyfriends , mothers etc etc
You are working in porn biz so get used to the fact that people will know that.

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl

I don't know Paul
Its honest idea and you have my respect for that but your girls are nothing special - means any1 shoot them and each of them is in 3 - 4 agencies around.They will be exposed anyway in few days
I consider this 2257situation as a proof of proffesionality - now we have a new rules so models must accept it if they are proffesionals as they say all the time.
Its really not easy
fuck that damn 2257 is problem in all ways - for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

what models are professionals? maybe the ones that do hardcore - but not the pupils or students that do one or two days softcore a month. and you know that a lot of czech girls do that just to get some extra bucks - no way that they are professionals.

You answered it for me.

Nydahl you know well that if this gets out in Czech it will stop many girls turning up for castings. They will not accept their IDs being handed out and I suggest you state what will happen to IDs in your model release.

Truth is most will skirt around it with vague language and face the storm after the model has moved on. And is telling her friends of what happened, who are telling their friends and so on. This will spread like wild fire in Czech.

Paul Markham · 06-09-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

I don't know Paul
Its honest idea and you have my respect for that but your girls are nothing special - means any1 shoot them and each of them is in 3 - 4 agencies around.They will be exposed anyway in few days
I consider this 2257situation as a proof of proffesionality - now we have a new rules so models must accept it if they are proffesionals as they say all the time.
Its really not easy
fuck that damn 2257 is problem in all ways - for everyone

No you do not shoot all my girls, otherwise I would be buying from you and you would not be telling me you don't shoot teens. You shoot some of them.

pornguy · 06-09-2005, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the statment.

Nydahl · 06-10-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

No you do not shoot all my girls, otherwise I would be buying from you and you would not be telling me you don't shoot teens. You shoot some of them.

I said any1 not ME
anyway I can shoot all of them or close to all of them
doesn't matter at all - I don't shoot them as I am not able to shoot teens the way you do - thats all
Your teen products are good so you shoot them , my teen products sucks so I don't shoot them.
Was nothing to hurt your scouting skills

Paul Markham · 06-10-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

I said any1 not ME
anyway I can shoot all of them or close to all of them
doesn't matter at all - I don't shoot them as I am not able to shoot teens the way you do - thats all
Your teen products are good so you shoot them , my teen products sucks so I don't shoot them.
Was nothing to hurt your scouting skills

Good point, but I can only be held responsible for our actions, what others do is there decision.

Today if I have time I will remove the facility to distribute our normal Bargain basement content to affiliates. Let them buy the more expensive and less sold Sponsor Sets, other peoples or saturate their custom sets.

I will sell to the affiliates who want unsaturated sets with IDs and paysites who want fresh content inside their sites, that will not get saturated.

Oracle Porn · 06-10-2005, 03:17 AM

lol what you wrote and what you meant are 2 WHOLE different announcements....

YOU WROTE: I wont be giving ID's

YOU MEANT: I will be giving ID's if you pay me, but you can't give them to your affiliates for free, if they want the ID's, tell them to pay me $5-$15 for the set.

Paul Markham · 06-12-2005, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

lol what you wrote and what you meant are 2 WHOLE different announcements....

YOU WROTE: I wont be giving ID's

YOU MEANT: I will be giving ID's if you pay me, but you can't give them to your affiliates for free, if they want the ID's, tell them to pay me $5-$15 for the set.

Yep that's about it, I'm going to make a fortune selling $5 sets to guys who can't afford to buy and take free content that's been out there for years.

thewebgarage · 06-12-2005, 03:47 AM

maybe we can get a refund for the content we can no longer us in the us?

06-09-2005, 02:34 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Paul Markham's 2257 announcement Paul Markham's 2257 announcement. Eva and I have discussed this together and with our lawyers. And have come to this conclusion. Models are the lifeblood of our company. Customers and affiliates are important but we feel that so long as we can supply the steady stream of quality models, they will continue to buy or promote us. If we stop getting these good models sales and traffic will decrease. We also have an agreement with them to not allow the widespread distribution of their IDs. Therefore the facility for customers to distribute our Models Ids, real names and details will remain UNACCEPTABLE as it already states on our licenses. We will not alter the license in the future or past licenses. This may well cost us clients, however better to lose a few clients than to lose models and gain the reputation of not caring about models safety. We have taken some action to assist content store clients who are sponsors wishing to give out softcore image sets to affiliates. These sets SPONSORS SOFTCORE IMAGE SETS are available for sponsors to buy. There will be a limit of 5 licenses sold and then the set will be deleted. This is old content and any client who bought these sets for their own use is welcome to contact me to get the set replaced. If this solution works we will be shooting sets specifically for this section. On Bargain Basement Content Store the license will continue to allow distribution of the content to affiliates. However it will still be UNACCEPTABLE to distribute MODELS IDs and details. If this means you can no longer buy from this store then fine. Paul Markham Content Store does not allow distribution of content to affiliates, except on the SOFTCORE SETS mentioned above. On PAUL MARKHAM TEENS we will give out softcore free content for US affiliates and hardcore free content for non US affiliates. I respect the actions of others sponsors, but this is a US law and I do not see why non US companies and affiliates should be hampered by it. Those targeting US traffic had best get their documentation in order to comply with the law. We will also be adding softcore free hosted galleries to the hardcore ones already there. We will also ensure that a gallery is not over exposed, as content producers we can keep a steady flow of unsaturated content on the galleries. I appreciate that this law amendment will be tough on many, however we will not put models at risk, break the laws of our country or harm our company and it's employees welfare. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Also as the number of affiliates on www.paulmarkhamteens.com grow we may be using different sets for driving traffic, at the moment it so small it will not effect anyone. In the future we don't want any conflict of interest. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Completely agree. I was sure you wouldn't do the mistake.

06-09-2005, 04:20 AM	#7
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	A content provider who dosen't want to give us the 2257 with ID'S.? But Paul who will buy your set now? I mean affiliates, link list, SE site, TGP, MPG's who's looking to buy some sets with the 2257 docs, they will buy from a content provider who will give all the info to be compliant you don't think?

06-09-2005, 04:39 AM	#10
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	Paul, I have taken the liberty to put your info at http://www.galleryfillers.com if you want to take a look please.

06-09-2005, 04:46 AM	#12
diesel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,097	One of the few content providers which was organized with the docs from the start.

06-09-2005, 06:38 AM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Well, Paul, for once I not only agree with you, I also have no problem saying so on the boards.

06-09-2005, 08:10 AM	#18
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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Nice going Paul, wouldn't expect nothing else from you tho

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06-09-2005, 08:22 AM	#21
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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Paul, just a heads up. Correct me if I am wrong but if you are selling those softcore sets as ones not needing documentation you should check with your lawyer about it again. Some of them would be in violation without documentation because of the dildo. It's pretty stupid but it's open to be percieved as explicit. Again, correct me if I am wrong.

06-09-2005, 11:39 AM	#31
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,339	Bargain Basement content is like $5-15 a set. I have tons of it. Any of you affiliates upset that your sponsor can't give you the IDs, go buy the sets so you won't have to take down your sites. Though I still am having trouble understanding why content providers are willing to give out IDs for $5, but will not allow sponsors to give them out. Do you really think that $5 fee is enough to separate stalkers with legitimate clients? Yeh, right! Stalkers would be willing to spend 10x that without batting an eyelash. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,829	excellent, paul! we feel exactly the same about this situation and since protecting the girls is the most important part for doing successful business in the future we will follow your example and change our license agreements according to that. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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Nydahl Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: closer then it appears Posts: 6,655	I don't know Paul Its honest idea and you have my respect for that but your girls are nothing special - means any1 shoot them and each of them is in 3 - 4 agencies around.They will be exposed anyway in few days I consider this 2257situation as a proof of proffesionality - now we have a new rules so models must accept it if they are proffesionals as they say all the time. Its really not easy fuck that damn 2257 is problem in all ways - for everyone __________________ www.garciniatrio.com www.acaitrio.com www.greencoffeetrio.com ICQ 153918034 email [email protected]

06-09-2005, 11:19 PM	#41
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06-10-2005, 03:17 AM	#44
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	lol what you wrote and what you meant are 2 WHOLE different announcements.... YOU WROTE: I wont be giving ID's YOU MEANT: I will be giving ID's if you pay me, but you can't give them to your affiliates for free, if they want the ID's, tell them to pay me $5-$15 for the set. __________________

06-12-2005, 03:47 AM	#46
thewebgarage Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: cali Posts: 1,002	maybe we can get a refund for the content we can no longer us in the us? __________________ Big Boob trades icq 265907826