No matter what people think of me, I try to do what's right. Sometimes I speak out too harshly. Well, more than sometimes. My outbursts have become well known around here.
But when I owe someone an apology... I apologize. Even if it hurts to do so, which it does in this case. I called Extreme Paychecks pond scum for their position on giving out model IDs. Amongst other things.
First of all, I want everyone to know something. As I told Extreme John on ICQ:
"I just really feel for these girls. I deal with them on a daily basis and I've had some that have been 'found out'. They went through hell. Whether they signed up for it or not, it breaks any normal person's heart to see it when it happens. It's worse than going through a divorce, which I've had to do.
More will now be 'found out' and some may be harmed. I'm doing everything I can to stop that from happening."
I really think these new laws can potentially cause serious harm for models. But as I was thinking while sitting on the throne earlier today (I know, I know... you like that visual don't ya?), well... I'll let this ICQ conversation with John tell the story. I basically ICQ'd him and told him there was something I needed to tell him. Here's the conversation:
DonovanPhillips [3:20 PM]:
Here's the thing: Ounique.com and sites like it have been providing IDs for years. In fact, almost 4 years ago I sent them 12 sets of photos which is how I found out.
Extreme John [3:23 PM]:
no shit huh.... small world right..
Extreme John [3:23 PM]:
thank you.
DonovanPhillips [3:24 PM]:
I would feel like a hypocrite if I didn't point it out to you when it came to mind. I thought of it earlier today and told (an unnamed friend of mine) "Don't you think I'd be a hypocrite if..."
Extreme John [3:25 PM]:
Haha it's all good man, trust me your a rare bird, many people wouldnt have said a word.
DonovanPhillips [3:25 PM]:
I'd be willing to write a post about it if you'd like. I did, after all, flame the shit out of you.
Extreme John [3:28 PM]:
I appreciate that bro, thats your call and would be a very nice gesture on your part, but I dont expect you to do anything, youve already done more than most would have.
DonovanPhillips [3:31 PM]:
writing it now.
DonovanPhillips [3:31 PM]:
it's the right thing to do.
Extreme John [3:32 PM]:
Well thank you man I have a ton of respect for someone that can goes as far as to admit something that no one would have known about honestly, than to take it one step further shows your true character send me the thread once you write it.
I will also tell you guys this: I still don't like the idea of every random affiliate having model IDs. But this thread had to be written. It's the right thing to do.
As for me? I will STILL refuse to give out model IDs to affiliates. I want to do everything possible to protect my models. This law sucks and I hope things change.
But to John and Chris over at Extreme Paychecks, "I apologize. Sincerely."
But when I owe someone an apology... I apologize. Even if it hurts to do so, which it does in this case. I called Extreme Paychecks pond scum for their position on giving out model IDs. Amongst other things.
First of all, I want everyone to know something. As I told Extreme John on ICQ:
"I just really feel for these girls. I deal with them on a daily basis and I've had some that have been 'found out'. They went through hell. Whether they signed up for it or not, it breaks any normal person's heart to see it when it happens. It's worse than going through a divorce, which I've had to do.
More will now be 'found out' and some may be harmed. I'm doing everything I can to stop that from happening."
I really think these new laws can potentially cause serious harm for models. But as I was thinking while sitting on the throne earlier today (I know, I know... you like that visual don't ya?), well... I'll let this ICQ conversation with John tell the story. I basically ICQ'd him and told him there was something I needed to tell him. Here's the conversation:
DonovanPhillips [3:20 PM]:
Here's the thing: Ounique.com and sites like it have been providing IDs for years. In fact, almost 4 years ago I sent them 12 sets of photos which is how I found out.
Extreme John [3:23 PM]:
no shit huh.... small world right..
Extreme John [3:23 PM]:
thank you.
DonovanPhillips [3:24 PM]:
I would feel like a hypocrite if I didn't point it out to you when it came to mind. I thought of it earlier today and told (an unnamed friend of mine) "Don't you think I'd be a hypocrite if..."
Extreme John [3:25 PM]:
Haha it's all good man, trust me your a rare bird, many people wouldnt have said a word.
DonovanPhillips [3:25 PM]:
I'd be willing to write a post about it if you'd like. I did, after all, flame the shit out of you.
Extreme John [3:28 PM]:
I appreciate that bro, thats your call and would be a very nice gesture on your part, but I dont expect you to do anything, youve already done more than most would have.
DonovanPhillips [3:31 PM]:
writing it now.
DonovanPhillips [3:31 PM]:
it's the right thing to do.
Extreme John [3:32 PM]:
Well thank you man I have a ton of respect for someone that can goes as far as to admit something that no one would have known about honestly, than to take it one step further shows your true character send me the thread once you write it.
I will also tell you guys this: I still don't like the idea of every random affiliate having model IDs. But this thread had to be written. It's the right thing to do.
As for me? I will STILL refuse to give out model IDs to affiliates. I want to do everything possible to protect my models. This law sucks and I hope things change.
But to John and Chris over at Extreme Paychecks, "I apologize. Sincerely."
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