This whole industry needs to comply, US or NON-US.

It cleans everything up and conversions will be better :thumbsup

I'll state again what I've said in a few other threads..

I hold absolutely NO animosity towards program owners that are making these decisions because they see it as the best legal position to take in order to protect themselves, their models & their affiliates.

It's the guys inconveniencing hundreds of foreign webmasters in the name of 'not leaving their US affiliates at a competitive disadvantage' that irk me.

I will gladly take your Traffic, we are completely out of the USA including processing for a few of our sites, if you are interested and you are wanting some of our stuff to promote out of the USA please feel free to hit me up anytime
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It's not about screwing the foreign webmasters. It's about complying to the law. All affiliates of a company must comply. If I get traffic from an affliate that isn't complying I can be liable and my ass is in trouble. Read Steve Lightspeed's thread if he has affiliates breaking the TOS and he knows about it his ass could be in trouble. They will go for the money line.

Exactly, people dont realize that guys like Steve, Shap many others and including myself didnt just jump up and say "Hey let's screw everyone", we are forced to make decisions based on a Legal system, and fall into a much different bracket because of the fact that we have affiliates, affiliates who must do the right thing when asked to. It goes hand in hand with being paid on time and all the others responsabilities we take on when opening an affiliate program. Not every decision we make is based on our own choices, or personal views.

Quit whining already. Most sponsors that have post have said they will longer give out FREE hardcore content to use. Most have NOT said YOU personally can't BUY your own content and use that. So in other words what you are REALLY whining about is you no longer get a free ride and now have to PAY for your own content.

This was a good reading thread

Dude you don't seem to want to hear the answer, so the best I can tell you is just keep complaining, I'm sure it will change things [/sarcasm]. 2257 Most certainly states that if you plan on selling your shit in the US then you must abide by the rules. If you don't want to follow the rules then block all your US traffic and only use non US sponsors, it's that simple.

I remember the days (not so long ago) when there was no such thing as FHGs and content supplied by the sponsors... You bought your own.. or if you could "prove" yourself, the sponsor would let you use content from inside the site.... ahhhhhhh.. those were the days...

Congratulations, you learned about law.

Look guy, you can keep on and on about this but you aren't changing any sponsors mind. Do you think they haven't spoken to their lawyers specifically about this? Do you think they just said fuck it, we'll try to lose some affiliates today? You can bet your ass that they are following legal advice that they paid top dollar for to stay in compliance with the law.

What if a non US webmaster posts hardcore content on a domain with no whois info? What if they change the whois info to the sponsors name? Who do you think is going to be called when there is a problem.

No matter how much you complain US sponsors will do as suggested by their lawyers. Better safe than sorry.

I've always paid for my own content. And I don't submit galleries/FHG/whatever.

and again....

I hold absolutely NO animosity towards program owners that are making these decisions because they see it as the best legal position to take in order to protect themselves, their models & their affiliates.

It's the guys inconveniencing hundreds of foreign webmasters in the name of 'not leaving their US affiliates at a competitive disadvantage' that irk me.

I don't want anybody to risk jail-time unnecessarily.

I guess the scum of the industry will rise to the top...

Then why are you complaining about the supposed unfairness to non-US webmasters?

Well as for us its no change for EU webmasters - hard core - softcore - dont matter its biz as usuall. :thumbsup

Because I'm not just looking out for my own best interests. Many non-US affiliates DO use the free content & free-hosted galleries supplied to them. They should have a voice.

On a personal level, I benefit from every sponsor that makes affiliates retroactively go back & change their pages, that doesn't mean I like to see it happen.

My business also benefits each time a US affiliate or US sponsor gets thrown in jail or has to go through a lengthy trial in both the courts of law and the courts of public opinion, that doesn't mean I like to see it happen.

You should try it sometime instead of your 'I would never use any sponsor that put [me] at a competitive disadvantage' position from the LS thread.