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There's more to life than money
I have a friend who says that alot.
I mean i'm working towards financial freedom and truly am interested when people talk about finances and real estate. Not surprisingly other friends are as well and different subjects revolving around money often come up in our conversations (alcohol-fueled or not). Then there's my friend. He works 9 to 5 and isn't unionised. He seems to automatically disconnect as soon as money is in the conversation. He often mentions how "you don't need to be a millionnaire in life" and "Money doesn't bring you happiness" Well no shit. But i can guarantee you I'll get my financial freedom and I won't live from paycheck to paycheck til i'm 65. Sometimes I feel like he expected me to never accomplish anything in life and is trying to dissuade me from pursuing wealth and financial freedom. I'm not perticularly successful but considering I'm a full time student and that I make more than any one of my friends, it might piss him off a bit. My question is this: Do you have childhood friends with whom similar situations have emerged? Do some of the people you know try to dissuade you from working harder to make money?
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I have sort of the same thing happen with one of my friends.. he did the university, shitty job, ground floor but better job type thing and is scaling the corporate ladder.
I make waay more then him and I am my own boss, but he attributes everything to luck. I guess the 12+ hr days and the 0 job security counts as luck. ![]() |
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There's more to life than money. Ironically, money can buy you most of those things.
My friends give me crap for working all the time and then complain that I make way more money than they do. Heh.
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I have found that many of my college friends act similar to yours. I think its just a mattter of insecurity they hold. They are not yet at a point to fell comfortable about talking wealth and where they want to be. I find most are just seeking to be comfortable* for the present moment. Its a difficult point for most college students.
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none of my childhood friends are in good financial situations. they always want to talk money with me because I am...always have a hand out it seems.
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It is good to keep in mind that financial freedom is good and it can help you on the way but there is more to live then that.
I know from experience that the financial freedom i have now don't make up for the losses I have had. Sure they help to make it easyer but they don't make them go away. Live can be a funny thing. Thats just my ![]() Peter |
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Indeed they attribute it to luck.
The thing is, I don't work that hard but i believe I work smart. I often find myself feeling bad for making more money than my friends, yet I wouldn't be happy to work a 9-5 regular job. But only that friend is a real ass about it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that a few years ago I was a complete fuckup, a dropout to top it. Now i'm scoring awesomely in University and I'm making good money. Maybe he thought I'd stay a fuckup all my life. The other day he was bragging how he was "investing in fun" after buying himself a nice toy. Indeed I'm happy for him he's enjoying his bike, but bragging about it is kinda weird, especially putting it as "investing in fun" and making a point, whatever that point must have been. Weird.
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Money is kewl. However, many change their morals based on their cheque book balance. ; )
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Give your college friends a break, they have probably spent the past 4 years being brain washed into thinking they need to have a secure job, working in corporate america, not taking risks and playing it safe.
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But that's not the point here. The downright question is: "Do your friends make you feel guilty about your pursuit of financial freedom and if so why?"
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There are some people in this world who turn their backs on money and do what really makes them happy. Pat Tilman, the pro foorball star turned soldier, is a primary example. He walked away from millions to serve his country and was killed in Afganastan earlier this year. Having financial freedom simply gives you more choices in life. It can't make you happy. Only you can do that. |
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Some people would tell me "you sat on your ass and did nothing all day, your lucky you slacker. hur hur ! your such a slacker! you have to leave the house to work! duh!". That really bothered me at the time, at that stage i was working every spare moment in the day to make, what now seems like spare change. About 6 months ago, i decided i would try to keep non-business friends completley seperate from any business/money related things. I don't talk about money with most of them, don't talk about financial goals for the future and don't bring up my business at all. If someone asks how business is, or ARE YOU RICH LOLOL, i just say "its okay" , " lol, i wish". With buddies, talk about fucking girls, trips you wanna go on, the weekend, how are classes... you know, fun stuff. I have found keeping money/financial goals out of the picture in this situation works so much better! Everyone, including yourself ends up much happier. Let them know your doing okay, but no need to say more about it. These are your buddies, not business partners. I know it is very hard not to talk constantly about business, something you are very passionate about and dedicate so much of your time to. I have found seeking out individuals to talk to in any business, who think similar to you and have a great drive to succeed is an awesome thing! I can talk for hours and hours with these guys, very freely, no matter the business they are in! It is shame there are so few of them ; ( In short, seperating business/money from my college mates as much as possible has made my life a better one. |
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Yeah you are right! don't botter with money anymore!
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I totally agree that there is more to life than money, but those people that insist on saying things along those lines whenever finance is brought up, piss me the fuck off. I mean, you could be talking about some topic for 3 hours straight, and if the topic changes to money, you've always got some twat piping in with "there is more to life than money!"
Well no shit! What did we just spend the last 3 hours talking about? Assholes. Although the phrase, in my opinion, is true, it's unfortunately usually used by a bunch of jaded and jealous fucktards.
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If you liked this thread, you will probably also like this one:
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Yes, I think jealousy and maybe insecurities sums up their behaviour pretty well.
With that said, I've got a quote I've always liked: "Those who say money isn't everything... just don't know where to shop." ![]()
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Since I see it that way, I have no idea wether You're sad or happy about that. I myself am happy with my level of scrutiny (if that's the right word?) ![]()
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Financial freedom can distract you from a lot a worries and help the time pass (tme heals everything.. right?) **
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The most important thing in life is called Health, money come's second or even third after giving and recieving love...
people who are jalous are the people who have the biggest problems theirselfs... Do your thing work hard if you want to..... But keep the stuff I told above in mind..
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Well spoken words ![]() Btw, i forgot to answer Dildozer's question: Duh!? Basically everyone around me is like that, I got used to it a long time ago. I just "/ignore" it, don't wanna waste energy arguing with them.
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"To a kid looking up to me...life aint nothing but bitches and money"
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True. There's more in life than money alone. If persuing money makes you unhappy, drop it. Working a 9-5 job with people you like and a job you love can be far more rewarding than going for the big bucks. Bet it all depends of course. I
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My friend called me last night thanking me for the book, he says it changed his perspective of life. He now wants to be his own boss. ![]() I hope he succeeds too
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![]() Just tell him to take things step-by-step and not be discouraged by mistakes, It takes quite a bit more to run your own show, but the rewards can also be greater. ![]()
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With money you have the freedom to do as you like, go where you please and help those who need it. You also have the option of working harder for more of it! Its when you become materialistic and look down on those who do not have your good fortune that you become a bastard. BG
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![]() bag_girl, well said indeed! Also, USING your money in less materialistic ways is a good way to make them make you happy. Examples: Bad: buying things and think the higher price equals more happiness. Good: traveling, experiences, enjoying the stability it gives your life, charities.. ![]()
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some people seem to frown on you for doing well but they complain about their own situation... like say "you're obsessed with money!" and "oh I don't want to go to work tommorrow!"
I don't know what they think I mean I'm not collecting money for the sake of it, I don't need like millions to buy ferraris and shit I just want to be able to do what I want to do, not get stuck in a shit 9-5 job and trapped in debt till 'm old! |
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Everyone can be happy, I mean.. Look at this guy :
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luckily no..cuz we all aim for a better life...juz that some of them had been blinded by love and was willing to set aside their dreams first...
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Nope I don't keep friends around me who are not supportive
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Money can't buy you happiness. But it can buy you a lot of things that can bring you happiness.
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Indeed, my only weakness is fast cars, other than that i don't really care to live in a bigger house and all that crap. I want to travel and try new experiences, the rest of my money goes into investments.
But it's true that some people say that as jealousy. I believe it's also a defense mechanism to justify making less. But face it, money may not be the key to happiness, but i can bet you that most people living from paycheck to paycheck with a shitload of debts aren't happy.
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"They say money can't buy you happiness, I just want a chance to prove them wrong"
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The truth is:
Yes theres more to life then money. If you actually sit down and think about it. Ok its great to have tons of dough cuz it makes things easier. Wtih money comes less stress and less chance of having your health decrease. Think about it..People who are poor or always worrying about rent and so on worry themsevles sick..Its really a shame..I think minimum wage needs to go up to at least 10 an hour bvecause everything is getting more expensive and people are losing reality that they can buy anything nice. If minimum wage goes up crime will decrease because people willa ctually think its possible to afford things with a job. But in the end you do die and you do not die with your money. Thats the bottom line!
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that guy is jelouse man, it's a simple human mentality.. if you do good people start to think more about you and hate you abit more.. think about this:
You don't have business, you got like $500 in your bank account and don't know where you ganna be next, then your friend shows up in a bm or benz talking about business and shit, how would you feel ? the same way he does now Just don't talk to people about money who didn't make it that far yet. |
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