TGP owners and 2257 - GoFuckYourself.com

TDF · 06-07-2005, 02:05 PM

what will be your policies regarding partners and galleries that arent 2257 compliant?.COnsidering there are thousands upon thousands of galleries that are archived im sure you want to be compliant and also dont want your submitters to lose their right to promote certain sponsors

will there be a grace period for galleries to be modified or will all backlogged submissions be deleted?

fireorange · 06-07-2005, 02:06 PM

Who cares, the TGPs that make $$$ are fake TGPs.

Theo · 06-07-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Who cares, the TGPs that make $$$ are fake TGPs.

using fake sponsors and fake traffic

TDF · 06-07-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Who cares, the TGPs that make $$$ are fake TGPs.

as i read this i was thinking of a strong rhetoric...but instead i will leave you with this

FilthyRob · 06-07-2005, 02:08 PM

How would you know if they are compliant unless you went to their office to inspect the records?

TTiger · 06-07-2005, 02:12 PM

im trying to always provide the 2257 link at the very end of all my galleries
http://www.sexabulous.com/galleries/felicity/13/
http://www.sexabulous.com/galleries/athens/29/index.htm

do tgp owner will accept this kinda galelries now?

$5 submissions · 06-07-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Who cares, the TGPs that make $$$ are fake TGPs.

What's next? Fake versions of the hottest moneymaking promo models currently--blogs and pagedbases? Oh no!

VeriSexy · 06-07-2005, 02:19 PM

TGPs are not even allowed to link to hardcore gallerys that don't have the 2257 docs?

06-07-2005, 02:22 PM

easy answer, get all partner accounts suspended and only sell spots and check them on 2257.

Johny Traffic · 06-07-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FilthyRob

How would you know if they are compliant unless you went to their office to inspect the records?

exactly!

Johny Traffic · 06-07-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

TGPs are not even allowed to link to hardcore gallerys that don't have the 2257 docs?

Linkage to that law please?

06-07-2005, 02:27 PM

yeah .............. that is a good thought LOL
no serious, only accept sponsor galleries as in directly from the sponsors, no affiliates anymore, just deal directly

psili · 06-07-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

TGPs are not even allowed to link to hardcore gallerys that don't have the 2257 docs?

Are you saying that even someone with a text link, linking outside of their site (and domain) to a webpage that contains a sexually explicit image, if the owner of that image doesn't have proper compliance, he who links to that page is a form of "producer" and is liable?

Seriously?

taibo · 06-07-2005, 02:31 PM

see sig below

RogerV · 06-07-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FilthyRob

How would you know if they are compliant unless you went to their office to inspect the records?

you don't need them to be compliant you need to be compliant and have the records or make sure its not sexually explicit

SKULL · 06-07-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Who cares, the TGPs that make $$$ are fake TGPs.

What is a fake tgp to you?

Evil1 · 06-07-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

TGPs are not even allowed to link to hardcore gallerys that don't have the 2257 docs?

Crystal meth, although extremely fun, is bad for you.

fireorange · 06-07-2005, 02:37 PM

Ask Choker what a fake TGP is.

Newbies.

fireorange · 06-07-2005, 02:39 PM

A TGP is one that has above 50k/day in traffic, anything below that is called "worthless shit not worth fuck all that makes fuck all in sales"

A fake TGP is one that does not accept submissions and sends all traffic to sponsor FHGs, usually utilizing skimming in the form of 70% of clicks to gallery, 30% to your trades, example: http://www.lovefuckk.com/

FleshJoe2005 · 06-07-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

A TGP is one that has above 50k/day in traffic, anything below that is called "worthless shit not worth fuck all that makes fuck all in sales"

A fake TGP is one that does not accept submissions and sends all traffic to sponsor FHGs, usually utilizing skimming in the form of 70% of clicks to gallery, 30% to your trades, example: http://www.lovefuckk.com/

FireOrange if that one is yours I'm sure you're fully compliant and have the docs on all models appearing in your 2257-non-exempt thumbs, right? Please understand that I'm NOT picking on you, just pointing out some of the problems that TGP owners face.

TTiger · 06-07-2005, 02:55 PM

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SKULL · 06-07-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Ask Choker what a fake TGP is.

Newbies.

Newbie your fucking mom... How is it fake when it still a thumbnail gallery post even if its only FHGs... so what do you mean by fake tgp?

RedShoe · 06-07-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

Are you saying that even someone with a text link, linking outside of their site (and domain) to a webpage that contains a sexually explicit image, if the owner of that image doesn't have proper compliance, he who links to that page is a form of "producer" and is liable?

Seriously?

I'd like to know this myself.
So If I switch to all text links from my current thumb format... I could still be busted?

RedShoe · 06-07-2005, 04:10 PM

bump....

Jim Neil · 06-07-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SKULL

Newbie your fucking mom... How is it fake when it still a thumbnail gallery post even if its only FHGs... so what do you mean by fake tgp?

sigh.

You said it your self. 'only FHGs'
My take is that its fake if you dont take submissions.

V_RocKs · 06-07-2005, 05:08 PM

You can link to them all you want.. you are only responsible for what you PRODUCE. The only thing you made is your TGP with links... and images are the only things covered under 2257.

fusionx · 06-07-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TTiger

im trying to always provide the 2257 link at the very end of all my galleries
http://www.sexabulous.com/galleries/felicity/13/
http://www.sexabulous.com/galleries/athens/29/index.htm

do tgp owner will accept this kinda galelries now?

Doesn't mean a thing. If the TGP operator publishes a thumb from your gallery that meets the criteria for 2257 as being "actual sexually explicit", then that TGP operator has to have the appropriate documentation under 2257.

Remember - the TGP owner is not publishing your gallery - the statement on the gallery is your business. The TGP owner is publishing a single image from your gallery, and that image is either subject to 2257, or it is not.

In 99.99% of the cases, that means that YOU would need to provide that TGP operator with the documentation for the models in that image. Otherwise, they won't list your gallery. Or, they will crop the thumb and make it NOT meet the criteria for 2257.

BTW - a cropped image is a new work, and it doesn't matter if the original image is hardcore as hell. The image you are publishing is all that matters. The only reference to modifying images is if you pixelate or cover the nasty bits or otherwise censor the image.

I don't know of ANY tgp owners that are going to accept 2257 docs from gallery submitters. Of course, I haven't asked them all

Either provide a thumb that clearly does not fall under 2257 or get prepared to be blacklisted 99.99% of the time (or at least have your galleries rejected).

Here's the criteria:

The current 2257 regulations define ?acutal sexually explicit conduct? as:

(h) As used in this section -
(1) the term ??actual sexually explicit conduct'? means actual
but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through
(D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title;

The revised 2257 regs do not change this definition. This definition is below:

(2) ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated?
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or

the "or" at the end of "D" refers to:

(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of
any person;

which is NOT PART of the definition of "actual sexually explicit conduct" under 2257.

You can read the entire 2257 here: http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/us...7----000-.html

The 2256 is here: http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/do...0/sec2256.html

and the changes published in the federal register are here: http://www.fight2257.com/new-2257-regs/

SKULL · 06-07-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Neil

sigh.

You said it your self. 'only FHGs'
My take is that its fake if you dont take submissions.

That doens't make them fake at all... fake would be a tgp that has no galleries at all pretending that it has.. kinda like a CJ site...

fireorange · 06-07-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SKULL

Newbie your fucking mom... How is it fake when it still a thumbnail gallery post even if its only FHGs... so what do you mean by fake tgp?

LOL are you for real?

A fake TGP is one filled 100% with FHGs and does not accept submissions unlike a normal TGP.

IIRC, "Fake TGP" is a term Choker came up with.

geeksta · 06-07-2005, 09:11 PM

pornpf69 · 06-07-2005, 09:50 PM

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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	easy answer, get all partner accounts suspended and only sell spots and check them on 2257.

06-07-2005, 02:27 PM	#12
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	yeah .............. that is a good thought LOL no serious, only accept sponsor galleries as in directly from the sponsors, no affiliates anymore, just deal directly

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fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	Ask Choker what a fake TGP is. Newbies.

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fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	A TGP is one that has above 50k/day in traffic, anything below that is called "worthless shit not worth fuck all that makes fuck all in sales" A fake TGP is one that does not accept submissions and sends all traffic to sponsor FHGs, usually utilizing skimming in the form of 70% of clicks to gallery, 30% to your trades, example: http://www.lovefuckk.com/

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