Update: Homegrown v. VMI - GoFuckYourself.com

MikeB · 06-07-2005, 03:16 PM

Click here to download the NDIG v. VMI et al. Interim Award PDF file.

Trade News and Voice Media Vindicated, Ron Levi Pleased with Judges Ruling

(LOS ANGELES) -- June 7, 2005 -- Trade News and other Defendants who were sued by New Destiny Internet Group, LLC the parent company for Homegrownvideo.com are extremely satisfied with an arbitration Judge?s Interim Order issued today that categorically rejects HGV?s claims of copyright infringement, invalid assignment, and other alleged related wrongful conduct and that finds no monetary award against the Defendants. (See page 7 of the Interim Order).

Trade News requested early on in the process that an independent audit be performed (See page 8 of the Interim Order). New Destiny opposed any such audit at the time Trade News requested it (See page 8 of the Interim Order which states that "Trade News' request was opposed by New Destiny") - now the arbitrator has embraced Trade News' request and ordered an independent audit with the costs of such audit to be divided evenly by both sides.

The Arbitrator's Order rejected New Destiny?s other claims against Defendant Ron Levi.

"We are pleased that the Arbitrator has rejected New Destiny's core claims of Copyright Infringement and Invalid Assignment. Voice Media and Trade News look forward to complete and total vindication and finality in this case once the independent audit is completed" says Ira Rothken defendant's counsel.

A copy of the Arbitration Order and Interim Award is attached.

CONTACT INFORMATION

Ira P. Rothken
Rothken Law Firm
Counsel for Defendants
415-924-4250 X113
[email protected]
www.techfirm.com

toonces · 06-07-2005, 03:54 PM

Congrats!

Does this mean you can talk about it now? ;)

MikeB · 06-07-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonces

Congrats!

Does this mean you can talk about it now? ;)

Yes, but read what the judge said in the PDF.

Mike B

Anna_O · 06-07-2005, 04:09 PM

Good for you

CE is a great company.

Matrix · 06-07-2005, 04:17 PM

Congrats to CE!! You guys are a class act and I'm glad that I can continue to make money with you, for a long long time.

over911 · 06-07-2005, 04:42 PM

Alienq has said it from the beginning.

Trade News and Ron Levi would be found clear of the HG ruckus.
Alienq will go have a beer now in celebration he says.

FilthyRob · 06-07-2005, 04:43 PM

good news for CE

Matt M · 06-07-2005, 04:46 PM

Great news Mike, thanks for sharing. I knew Ron would be ok.

Xenophage · 06-07-2005, 04:50 PM

Ira is an Animal

Glad he is on my team !

Good job CE crew.

homegrownmof · 06-07-2005, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Ira is an Animal

Glad he is on my team !

Good job CE crew.

It isn't over til the audit's over.

RogerV · 06-07-2005, 05:30 PM

can you send me traffic now

J/K

PattyeCake* · 06-07-2005, 07:27 PM

Awesome News!

Big Hugs to Ron and ALL of the CE gang!

$tandaman · 06-07-2005, 08:55 PM

congrats..

i guess someone is "technologically challenged"

$tandaman · 06-07-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

It isn't over til the audit's over.

Maybe the pizza delivery men will reimburse you?

fantasyman · 06-08-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

It isn't over til the audit's over.

It's over. The audit will confirm that all of your claims were balogna.

The arbitrator threw out the copyright infringement, ruled that the assignment was valid and there was no evidence of shaving. The audit will "prove" that there was no shaving.

Then what?

Jason · 06-08-2005, 09:50 AM

this is great news. hahahaha

i love it

xlogger · 06-08-2005, 09:52 AM

CEcah rules! By far my FAV sponsor!

Matrix · 06-08-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $tandaman

Maybe the pizza delivery men will reimburse you?

HAHAHAH

.....Not sure if they are even that lucky.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

It isn't over til the audit's over.

Ya did alot of shit talking to, I am betting A slander and Libal suit will be comming your way. IMHO ya did alot of damage to CE over the course of your latest money sink using viscious press releases and these very boards along with several others.

Donny · 06-08-2005, 10:13 AM

Can anybody give me a rundown of what happened here?

What was HGV suing over (in simple terms - "I may not be a smart man, but I know what love is, Jenny."

) ?

I missed this.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Can anybody give me a rundown of what happened here?

What was HGV suing over (in simple terms - "I may not be a smart man, but I know what love is, Jenny."

) ?

I missed this.

CLICKIE Click! AVN posted alot of HG's hubris and slanderous rhetoric.

Take a look at the PDF above.
CE has always been a clean house.
Notice the class CE has displayed throughout this campaign.
Calm smooth collected and professional.

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by over911

Ya did alot of shit talking to, I am betting A slander and Libal suit will be comming your way. IMHO ya did alot of damage to CE over the course of your latest money sink using viscious press releases and these very boards along with several others.

If your opinions meant anything to me then I would care what you had to say.

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix

HAHAHAH

.....Not sure if they are even that lucky.

What are you laughing at?

Ron really worked wonders with Matrix didnt he?

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornDollar

this is great news. hahahaha

i love it

Is it true you are a minority owner in Porndollar?

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantasyman

It's over. The audit will confirm that all of your claims were balogna.

The arbitrator threw out the copyright infringement, ruled that the assignment was valid and there was no evidence of shaving. The audit will "prove" that there was no shaving.

Then what?

Arbitrator didnt rule there was no shaving. He ruled to have a "real" forensic audit done.

Then what? well we will have to wait and see.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

If your opinions meant anything to me then I would care what you had to say.

If you had listened to what I have told you since day one you could have just went and bought a ferrari instead.

Jason · 06-08-2005, 10:53 AM

replying to you is a joke.

xlogger · 06-08-2005, 11:00 AM

Can someone tell me what this lawsuit was about in 1 or 2 sentences?

Matrix · 06-08-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

What are you laughing at?

Ron really worked wonders with Matrix didnt he?

You are a dumb nut. CE had something to do with Matrix the Movie??? WOW
My name is a reflection of my love for Matrix the Triology. I wanted the username Trinity but that was taken so this was my next best choice for a Username.

Hoser.

fantasyman · 06-08-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

Arbitrator didnt rule there was no shaving. He ruled to have a "real" forensic audit done.

Then what? well we will have to wait and see.

I know what the outcome of the audit will be, that's why I'm celebrating now!! Oh Yeah!!!!

SleazyDream · 06-08-2005, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

It isn't over til the audit's over.

wa wa wa - even though you THINK you're right and know everything, someone's ass just got kicked

xlogger · 06-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Man who sues CE and expect to win?

I know they are a stand up company and will never do anything wrong. That is why i have them as a main sponsor the day i stepped in this biz.

Edit: Same goes for AFF, they rule too.

topbizucksMark · 06-08-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

If your opinions meant anything to me then I would care what you had to say.

That is a very mature and professional response

over911 · 06-08-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

Can someone tell me what this lawsuit was about in 1 or 2 sentences?

Sure.

Somebody got "Owned".
It was not Ron or CE, VMI.

Far-L · 06-08-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantasyman

It's over. The audit will confirm that all of your claims were balogna.

The arbitrator threw out the copyright infringement, ruled that the assignment was valid and there was no evidence of shaving. The audit will "prove" that there was no shaving.

Then what?

when was the gag order lifted?

Jman · 06-08-2005, 11:43 AM

Great news Ron. It's unreal that companies have to go threw all that shit just to prove a point.

Glad the ruling is positive.

Kimmykim · 06-08-2005, 11:46 AM

........

I'm sure both sides are glad it's pretty much done.

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topbizucksMark

That is a very mature and professional response

Thanks- same applies to you.

What is your position at Topbucks?

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMan

Great news Ron. It's unreal that companies have to go threw all that shit just to prove a point.

Glad the ruling is positive.

It is unreal people post like this while knowing none of the real facts.

Kissass.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

Thanks- same applies to you.

What is your position at Topbucks?

Irrelevant your honor!
Now ya gonna run around and threaten people of various programs because of there opinion?

Desperate men do desperate things...

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by over911

Irrelevant your honor!
Now ya gonna run around and threaten people of various programs because of there opinion?

Desperate men do desperate things...

Threaten? How did you arrive at that?

Time for a new tinfoil hat- current one must have a hole somewhere.

Donny · 06-08-2005, 12:16 PM

The people at Homegrown are top notch.

homegrownmof · 06-08-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantasyman

I know what the outcome of the audit will be, that's why I'm celebrating now!! Oh Yeah!!!!

Did Medhat already prepare it for you?

I'm sure you know what you know.

Now allow the rest of us the time to wait until the actual audit is complete.

That is all I have to say for now.

Far-L · 06-08-2005, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

The people at Homegrown are top notch.

Thank you!

Donny · 06-08-2005, 12:28 PM

I have no real personal experience with Ron Levi or his company but I have had experience with Homegrown. They are straight forward and honest.

And remember, people, Homegrown led the way when it came time to fight Acacia. For ALL of you. That fight still goes on.

I think everyone needs to back out of this and let the two companies figure it out without the peanut gallery's input. Win or lose, the integrity of the companies in the dispute will not change.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 12:35 PM

Now its a matter of the peanut galleries input?

ROFLMA!
HG has used the Peanut galleries input about this matter since day one.

Now that the reckoning has dawned its all about letting it go quietly?

Bah fuck way the hell off.
This has been dragging CE in the mud for a long time even take a toll in popular opinion since the peanut gallery tends to make assumptions that effect biz. A day of innocence has revealed itself and now the peanut gallery should remain dumb on the whole matter?

Hardly.

over911 · 06-08-2005, 12:40 PM

Donovan ya should take a look at how HG only saved its own ass in the deal regarding Acacia. Your biz is no safer than it was when it started.

taibo · 06-08-2005, 12:41 PM

sig spot secured

saus · 06-08-2005, 12:57 PM

Good work to the CE crew & legal eagles on this interim judgement, thanks for access to the PDF! Interesting reading.

These old world companies should focus on common threats, not themselves going forward when it comes to expensive litigous cases imho. Arbitration is probably where this should have gone from the initial get go

ps hope Brian is feeling 110% (make that 120%, what can I say I like the guy ;)

cheers

TheSwed · 06-08-2005, 12:58 PM

Interesting reading

06-07-2005, 03:16 PM	#1
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	Update: Homegrown v. VMI Click here to download the NDIG v. VMI et al. Interim Award PDF file. Trade News and Voice Media Vindicated, Ron Levi Pleased with Judges Ruling (LOS ANGELES) -- June 7, 2005 -- Trade News and other Defendants who were sued by New Destiny Internet Group, LLC the parent company for Homegrownvideo.com are extremely satisfied with an arbitration Judge?s Interim Order issued today that categorically rejects HGV?s claims of copyright infringement, invalid assignment, and other alleged related wrongful conduct and that finds no monetary award against the Defendants. (See page 7 of the Interim Order). Trade News requested early on in the process that an independent audit be performed (See page 8 of the Interim Order). New Destiny opposed any such audit at the time Trade News requested it (See page 8 of the Interim Order which states that "Trade News' request was opposed by New Destiny") - now the arbitrator has embraced Trade News' request and ordered an independent audit with the costs of such audit to be divided evenly by both sides. The Arbitrator's Order rejected New Destiny?s other claims against Defendant Ron Levi. "We are pleased that the Arbitrator has rejected New Destiny's core claims of Copyright Infringement and Invalid Assignment. Voice Media and Trade News look forward to complete and total vindication and finality in this case once the independent audit is completed" says Ira Rothken defendant's counsel. A copy of the Arbitration Order and Interim Award is attached. CONTACT INFORMATION Ira P. Rothken Rothken Law Firm Counsel for Defendants 415-924-4250 X113 [email protected] www.techfirm.com

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I have no real personal experience with Ron Levi or his company but I have had experience with Homegrown. They are straight forward and honest. And remember, people, Homegrown led the way when it came time to fight Acacia. For ALL of you. That fight still goes on. I think everyone needs to back out of this and let the two companies figure it out without the peanut gallery's input. Win or lose, the integrity of the companies in the dispute will not change.

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over911 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,375	Now its a matter of the peanut galleries input? ROFLMA! HG has used the Peanut galleries input about this matter since day one. Now that the reckoning has dawned its all about letting it go quietly? Bah fuck way the hell off. This has been dragging CE in the mud for a long time even take a toll in popular opinion since the peanut gallery tends to make assumptions that effect biz. A day of innocence has revealed itself and now the peanut gallery should remain dumb on the whole matter? Hardly. __________________

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