Will porn sites be forced to go .xxx?

[DVTimes]

Will porn sites be forced to go .xxx?

I fail to see how this will happen for several reasons.

1. It would need every country to pass this law. I do not think the UK would or indeed many other countries.

2. The main problem is then you have to define what is porn. Such as is hegre-archives.com porn? To me this is art. Also webcam sites and dating sites, will they be classed as porn. If fact what if you have a health sex site, would this have to be put on a .xxx? Its not possible to say what is or is not porn. In the UK there is no legal definition of porn. In fact much of the UK law is defined under obscenity which again is not defined but down to personal view points. Although R18 porn films do have a list of what is acceptable, this is not law but what the sensors have decided.

[StuartD]

do you ever get tired of making .xxx threads?

[Dalai lama]

That would be impossible.

[Dirty F]

Jesus you idiot, stop making a thread about .xxx every 3 hours.

If you feel your voice is that important bump your old threads.

Retard.

[Trax]

yes
next stupid thread

[Dirty F]

Not only that...you bring absolutely nothing new to the table. Stuff thats been discussed for 2 days now in 20 threads and you open a new thread about it.

Fuck off.

[DWB]

sooner or later... yes.

[pstation]

hopefully it will

[kernelpanic]

Its a matter of time. First the US Federal government will require it, and later ICANN will be pressured into adopting that policy.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Franck

Not only that...you bring absolutely nothing new to the table. Stuff thats been discussed for 2 days now in 20 threads and you open a new thread about it.

Fuck off.

I am making a point.

This is called freedom of speech. If you do not like what I say either do not read or make a comment about what I have said.

If you do not want freedom of speech, feel free to pop on a plane to China, where you will be much happier as you loose freedom of speech, also porn is banned.

As long as there is freedom of speech I shall make my points and thoughts. I would never dream of telling anyone not to speech there mind.

Many people died for the right of free speech. You Sir or a disgrace for what you have said.

[xXxtreme2005]

1000th .xxx thread

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by allanuk

I am making a point.

This is called freedom of speech. If you do not like what I say either do not read or make a comment about what I have said.

If you do not want freedom of speech, feel free to pop on a plane to China, where you will be much happier as you loose freedom of speech, also porn is banned.

As long as there is freedom of speech I shall make my points and thoughts. I would never dream of telling anyone not to speech there mind.

Many people died for the right of free speech. You Sir or a disgrace for what you have said.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it retard.

Every few hours you open a thread about .xxx about issues that have been discussed a dozen of times already. Dont you read those other threads? Why dont you post in those? Why dont you keep it to one thread? One of threads you made previously.
Freedom of speech - give me a fucking break.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by allanuk

I am making a point.

This is called freedom of speech. If you do not like what I say either do not read or make a comment about what I have said.

If you do not want freedom of speech, feel free to pop on a plane to China, where you will be much happier as you loose freedom of speech, also porn is banned.

As long as there is freedom of speech I shall make my points and thoughts. I would never dream of telling anyone not to speech there mind.

Many people died for the right of free speech. You Sir or a disgrace for what you have said.

stating your opinion is free speech. stating it over and over and over and over again is noise polution.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by xXxtreme2005

1000th .xxx thread

Allanuk is responsible for half of them.

[$5 submissions]

Will they? That's a political issue.

Can they? The US Supreme Court has ruled on this issue and yes, they can. It's called "time and manner" speech restrictions.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

stating your opinion is free speech. stating it over and over and over and over again is noise polution.

You do not need to read my posts. Indeed you can put me on your ignore list.

I am amazed how some of you moan at people making a point.

I am pleased that people can say what they feel. Even if they post nonsense. If you disagree then you should say why, rather than posting insults.

I am from the UK, but if I was ever in the USA I would make a point of kneeling at the statues of those fine presidents who gave you freedom of speech. I have great respect for them.

I find it greatly offensive that any American would ever tell another not to speak there mind, regardless of how stupid or controversial.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by allanuk

You do not need to read my posts. Indeed you can put me on your ignore list.

I am amazed how some of you moan at people making a point.

I am pleased that people can say what they feel. Even if they post nonsense. If you disagree then you should say why, rather than posting insults.

I am from the UK, but if I was ever in the USA I would make a point of kneeling at the statues of those fine presidents who gave you freedom of speech. I have great respect for them.

I find it greatly offensive that any American would ever tell another not to speak there mind, regardless of how stupid or controversial.

PLLLLEASE stfu.

Jesus not only are you a retard youre also full of shit.

How old are you anyway? 18?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by allanuk

You do not need to read my posts. Indeed you can put me on your ignore list.

I am amazed how some of you moan at people making a point.

I am pleased that people can say what they feel. Even if they post nonsense. If you disagree then you should say why, rather than posting insults.

I am from the UK, but if I was ever in the USA I would make a point of kneeling at the statues of those fine presidents who gave you freedom of speech. I have great respect for them.

I find it greatly offensive that any American would ever tell another not to speak there mind, regardless of how stupid or controversial.

first off, neither franck nor myself are American... and secondly, I find it greatly offensive when some non-American goes on and on and on about something that has been talked about over and over and over again.

If you don't like it, then put me on ignore cause hey... I'm entitle to my opinion... free speech and all.

[kernelpanic]

Originally Posted by allanuk

You do not need to read my posts. Indeed you can put me on your ignore list.

I am amazed how some of you moan at people making a point.

Please, every other .xxx thread made is by you.

Making a point is one thing, fucking up the SNR is another.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

Its a matter of time. First the US Federal government will require it, and later ICANN will be pressured into adopting that policy.

You wold have a problem in the fact that even if each country in the world decided that all porn would have to be on .xxx, each country would have to all agree what is porn.

Now do not forget that in many EU countries, its common to have nude models in adverts, while in the USA you get shoicked by a boob on the USA football.

Take this for example: Sample photographs

To me this is not porn. Yet some will think it is.

You could end up with the situation that great works of art can only be seen on .xxx sites.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

first off, neither franck nor myself are American... and secondly, I find it greatly offensive when some non-American goes on and on and on about something that has been talked about over and over and over again.

If you don't like it, then put me on ignore cause hey... I'm entitle to my opinion... free speech and all.

Thats fine.

[kernelpanic]

Originally Posted by allanuk

You wold have a problem in the fact that even if each country in the world decided that all porn would have to be on .xxx, each country would have to all agree what is porn.

Now do not forget that in many EU countries, its common to have nude models in adverts, while in the USA you get shoicked by a boob on the USA football.

Take this for example: Sample photographs

To me this is not porn. Yet some will think it is.

You could end up with the situation that great works of art can only be seen on .xxx sites.

All the countries don't have to agree to shit. ICANN can set policies as it sees fit.

If ICANN decides that tits are sexually explicit, and bars them from .com, it will be a worldwide policy that is independent of any country's definition of sexually explicity.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

All the countries don't have to agree to shit. ICANN can set policies as it sees fit.

If ICANN decides that tits are sexually explicit, and bars them from .com, it will be a worldwide policy that is independent of any country's definition of sexually explicity.

This will not work as that will mean the others that are not run by them (such as .co.uk) will not be affected.

[DVTimes]

Have you read this?
From:
http://www.icannwatch.org/articles/0.../1339259.shtml
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From: Lauren Weinstein
Date: June 2, 2005 12:39:32 AM EDT
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: ICANN's "ex-ex-ex" domains and the slippery slope

Dave,

As noted in:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

ICANN has reversed its long-standing opposition to a TLD (top-level domain) "red-light district" and is moving toward creation of a "dot-ex-ex-ex" domain space (my phonetic spelling is an attempt to avoid having this message and your list shunted by the usual simpleminded filters).

This about-face by ICANN demonstrates yet again how major decisions by the organization are made without significant, broad public discourse. Ironically, it also reverses one of the more sensible arguments that ICANN had previously been making.

Unlike other "topic-specific" TLDs like dot-jobs or dot-travel, the existence of dot-ex-ex-ex is likely to create a political and litigious firestorm over time, as various government entities move to try force "adult" sites into the new domain space, and battles erupt over what an adult site is defined to be.

While some obviously hardcore sites will likely be enthusiastic about having an ostensibly "safe" TLD for operations, a vast number of sites that aren't hardcore, or that have a variety of materials -- only some of which are adult oriented in nature -- are likely to be far less willing to be categorized in that manner.

Will there be calls for any site with explicit photographs or texts (even in classical or health contexts) to be relegated to the new dot-ex-ex-ex domains? What about sites selling contraceptives, sexual aids, or "adult toys" of various kinds? Given the history of the religous right, these should not be considered to be far-fetched possibilities. Will it be mandated that you must "prove" your adult status (e.g., by identifying yourself with a credit card) before you may have access to the new domains? Certainly many organizations (and possibly even ISPs) will be pressured to block access, making "forced" population of the new TLD even more problematic.

And does this set a precedent that will be applied to other areas of Internet content control, especially if some or all of the Children's Online Protection Act (COPA) is upheld by the Supreme Court?

The creation of dot-ex-ex-ex may set the stage for potentially damaging and disruptive content control and censorship wars that we can hardly even imagine today. It's worth thinking through these issues very carefully before going down that path.


--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
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Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
- People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
Co-Founder, EEPI
- Electronic Entertainment Policy Initiative - http://www.eepi.org
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Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
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[jimmyf]

Originally Posted by Franck

Not only that...you bring absolutely nothing new to the table. Stuff thats been discussed for 2 days now in 20 threads and you open a new thread about it.

Fuck off.

i agree

and

Will porn sites be forced to go .xxx?

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

[Webby]

WTF is ICANN anyway? The more the US sticks it's face on controlling the net - the bigger the reaction will be.

Sheesh.. is there *anything* ya can do there without having an "issue" over it??

[kernelpanic]

Originally Posted by Webby

WTF is ICANN anyway? The more the US sticks it's face on controlling the net - the bigger the reaction will be.

Sheesh.. is there *anything* ya can do there without having an "issue" over it??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by allanuk

Will porn sites be forced to go .xxx?

No, but thank you for playing. The home game version is available at...

:P

Bump your old threads, already...

[Jace]

To quote 12clicks

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING

[juve20]

i think it will be impossible to force sites to turn to .xxx

tony

[taibo]

yet another thread

[Connor]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

To quote 12clicks

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING

Man, I was wondering how long until somebody tried that. What took you so long? I wonder if there's some person in the broadcast TV industry who waits until everyone is talking about the "indecency" attacks against that industry and then runs around saying, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!" thinking he's clever. The last thing you EVER want to do when trying to sound like you know something is quote 12clicks.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Connor

Man, I was wondering how long until somebody tried that. What took you so long? I wonder if there's some person in the broadcast TV industry who waits until everyone is talking about the "indecency" attacks against that industry and then runs around saying, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!" thinking he's clever. The last thing you EVER want to do when trying to sound like you know something is quote 12clicks.

please son, quoting someone who's done something in this business is always better than quoting someone who makes his money writing about what others have done in this business.

[KRL]

Quit worrying and just get on with business. People spend so much time worrying about bullshit its the most ridiculous waste of your productivity.

Just know this industry will always be under attack. Its part of the game. Make moves no one else has thought of and jump around and over the challengers.

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Franck

PLLLLEASE stfu.

Jesus not only are you a retard youre also full of shit.

How old are you anyway? 18?

With all due respect, Franck, you have got to be the most foul-mooded person I've seen on any board. Ever. Just about every time your name appears in a thread you're telling someone to f-off, what a loser/retard/idiot they are, complaining, bitching, it's almost as if you sit back and wait for a thread to pop up that you cant vent on ...

Damn, man, I personally have nothing against you (I don't even know you) but me thinks you REALLY need to get laid - or if you have a woman now, perhaps she's driving you somehow to serial killer-type hostility?

[adonthenet]

im not sure =\

[fireorange]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

With all due respect, Franck, you have got to be the most foul-mooded person I've seen on any board. Ever. Just about every time your name appears in a thread you're telling someone to f-off, what a loser/retard/idiot they are, complaining, bitching, it's almost as if you sit back and wait for a thread to pop up that you cant vent on ...

Damn, man, I personally have nothing against you (I don't even know you) but me thinks you REALLY need to get laid - or if you have a woman now, perhaps she's driving you somehow to serial killer-type hostility?

[Serge Litehead]

Unless Visa forces processors and processors force paysites and all affiliates

[FilthyRob]

I hope they don't