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Eat that WOJ

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Somebody has a script setup ready to go to auto buy all the .xxx URLs worth anything. Yep, a server dedicated to each major registrar.

I think this will simply alienate the adult industry... apart from protection for innocent eyes I do not see any advantages. Plus the .XXX release will simply cause a similar burst of domainpurchases as .IN did leaving the valuable domains to the big domainers.

:winkwink:

In all due respect how did you become so sucessful thinking that way. They can still go after you for obscenity it doesnt protect you. Think about it one minister in one small church told Microsoft if you support gays , I will start a letter writing campaign for people to stop buying microsoft products and they changed their position on something microsoft always supported. You think some extreme right group cant get aol to block .xxx, thats funny. Also .xxx ends all colleges and daytime porn buying, alot of people look at porn at work thats over. This will hurt us all big and small. Also a naked pic of chick with big tits doesnt hurt a child , a pervert in a aol chat hurts a child.

censorship aside, it makes for an easier target. think about it, funnelling all porn into one tld means that it would be VERY EASY to filter it out at the source.

Bush doesn't like porn? No problem, all ISP's are now forced to filter out .xxx from their services.

How about China? They will definitely do that.

Right now, as whitehouse.com was an example of, it's very hard to tell what is and isn't porn just from looking at it. Once it's singled out and made very apparent, it'll become a big bold target that is very easy to hit.

The hun would shit bricks

People might browse porn at work but they damn sure aren't jerking off at work. I doubt that many are sitting there signing up with a credit card either. That's the kind of shit you do at home.

who won the GFY hoodie and hat?

you'd be surprised actually.

No, this is not a good thing. Make no mistake about it. This will turn out to be the worst move ever made.

You must be new at this business ,there are guys who buy cam shows from my wife while in their office. All those day sales what do you think all those people have night jobs lol

Im thinking strange POV to come out with Lens were you offered something ? lol

Wanna bet? :winkwink:

Ok ok, down with xxx! If nobody can see my sites at work I'll go out of business.

.XXX is bad, but .XXX and its consequences are inevitable. Deal with it. If you are so worried about it, I'd suggest that you spend some $$ on registering a few trademarks (i.e. SleazyDream.xxx) that will help you sleep better at night in the next few months. It's worth it.

Gary Kremen owns the trademark for sex.xxx. I'm sure he's not worried as much as the rest of you are. $300 and you're done with it.

THank you I bet this will cost at least 40% drop in sales. If we all have to go .xxx

And for the record EVERYONE is responding to this thread as if .xxx is mandatory. All of your arguments against it are IF it's MANDATORY. It's not mandatory and I highly doubt it ever will be. Imagine every single decent sized adult company in the world (includes playboy, hustler, etc. etc. etc.) suing the government because they told them that all of a sudden they can't use .com. Not gonna happen.

There's like 200 reasons to get out of porn now. The whole wide world is going to make adult sites move to .xxx therefore we are all doomed. I wonder if my neighbors need a yard boy.

Once everything cools down, probably after a year or so, and after most of the lawsuits are over with, it will become one.

Sounds like they need a variation on the xxx to cover the variety of domains now available - as in all .com's switch to xxx. All orgs go to xxorg (hey, I like the look of that).

Honestly, I didn't see the problem with the rule until I saw this discussion. Never thought about how they would hand out the domain names.

Getting past the admin nightmare that it would be, I think it would help in that it would take away the constant complaining from people who hit porno sites by accident. Remember WhiteHouse.com (? or something like that)- I hit that once at work trying to find the link for the real white house and man that was a surprise!

CYN

When the .WS registry came out, they reserved trademarked keywords for companies such as ebay.ws, microsoft.ws and quite a few others. That was a good system in my opinion, to allow Trademark holders first dibs at their registrations (and only theirs, not open to other name registrations other than their own TM's).

WG

This is the problem with TLDs. They shouldn't have been used in the first place. The old AOL Keyword system is much better, and IMHO the internet will eventually adopt it. I give it 8 years.

I agree, TM'd named makes perfect sense. Lots of adult names aren't trademarked though and the .com owners now want free range to get them. lol

He also owns the trademark for pussy.xxx, although he doesnt own any 'pussy' domain. :error

So hey, why can't I register a trademark for pussy.xxx in South Africa or Belize? Or why can't I get a trademark for sex.xxx?

Oh yeah, that'll work. Nobody on the planet will have lists of everything people have typed in for the last 10 years and grab all the best keywords.

amen to that

If they don't allow first crack at names - imagine the shit-storm
if the same person was able to register:

bangbus.xxx
adultfriendfinder.xxx
adult.xxx
sex.xxx
girlsgonewild.xxx
ispycameltoe.com
etc. etc. etc.

Sounds a lot like the sales pitch R_n was making about this a while back... Is there a profit motive involved for you too?

i do not agree at all, as broughten up in this thread earlier the ".com" doesnt always have priority over the .net and .org. so if a .net and .org site get more traffic and have more income than the .com? you really think they are going to allow the ".com'ers" to just take the .xxx domain?

that is like saying that because you own adult.com and are an american citizen you should own adult.us. it is no ones fault that you put an xxx site on the .com. it just doesnt work that way, this will be a free for all just like all domain registration.

you cannot regulate domain registration based on prior registrations, if you own the trademark, thus you will just be going through the same steps as getting a .com.

How will this ever be a mandatory program? There will always be countries that reject the proposal and you could host your servers there.
What happens if you don't opt for moving from the .com gTLD will you be forced? if so, how? It's rather 'Chicken Little' to be predicting the death of the Porn industry with the release of a gTLD with a voluntary signup status.

perhaps, with the rampant paranoia you should ask that ICANN be moved to the United Nations? so when the Government trashcans the constitution and decides to remove all access to .XXX they cannot use ICANN as a vehicle to remove you to a .COM concentration camp? j/k

Out of those only sex.xxx is trademarked.


Out of these

sex.xxx
dick.xxx
porn.xxx
adult.xxx
bangbros.xxx
hardcore.xxx
pussy.xxx
fucked.xxx
webcam.xxx
webcams.xxx
livecams.xxx


Only sex porn and pussy are trademarked.

How would it cause a 40% decrease in sales?

So parents will now block all .xxx domains and schools will too. Thats less people who are not going to buy porn, meaning less bandwidth, but the same amount of sales.

Amen. :thumbsup

bingooooo, i cant wait for the tgp webmasters to come in here and try to argue with this.

its not about the extension, its about being grouped to where processors can knock us off.

Wow...
Lensman, wanted to hear what you say on this important matter, cause you are one of the very influential peeps in this whole biz. Now saying that I dont think that I am to comfortable with this very secret bunch or group of people selling this idea and using the "ASACP or the Child Protection angle" as there cover or selling point.

It just really makes me sick to my stomach to think that a small group of greedy people can sink that low to make some money.

Something smells like bullshit.

http://www.mikehawkmovies.com/cryin.jpg

1) you can have a voluntary .XXX -AND- US government prosecution via 2257 and obscenity.. so having .XXX or not doesn't alleviate government interactions.

Having a mandatory .XXX for US-based websites (much like with 2257) with just make it easier to prosecute, since it would no longer require DOJ onsite visits.. they simply need to check the location of the "offending" .COM, see that it is in US jurisdiction, and pretty quick to judgement. ISP could even be required to review all domains hosted at their faciilites for their "adult" classification. ISP are already required by law to report CP activities, so it's not a far stretch for ISP to be the watchdogs (and be legally required to do so).


2) ICANN wouldn't/couldn't enforce anything. Their organization is about self-labelling. WHile they support .XXX because it is a form of "labelling", they have no enforcement powers.

ICANN's authority exists globally, so ICANN could make it a content rule that adult related material must be in .XXX, but they have not taken that approach, and have instead, offered the TLD to be managed by ICM Registry. Certainly there are implications that public and private sector could use a .XXX extension for filtering, taxing (if US), etc, but that has nothing to do with ICANN, other than their approval gives the realistic and very feasible method for which all of the above can happen.

What could happen, is that pro-XXX lobbyists (including the US gov't) could convince other countries to do the same, thus getting to the global coverage of mandatory .XXX that you don't have a problem with.

If .XXX is to be something used as a tool to classify and categorize websites, it would seem better that the United Nations be the ones that administers this and collects the funds, since the scope is international. Imagine the situation where "your porn dollars at work" displayed over 3rd world country development projects as the revenue gained from sales of .XXX goes to good causes, rather than to those who are the private shareholders of ICM Registry (tho if you subscribe to "trickle down economics" then having a few fat cats is good for the economy then)



Fight the Voodoo Economics!

There will be a lot less traffic, would suck for skimming tgps because they cant skim out kids to other sites and hope for exchange of actuall surfers.

but kids dont buy passes.

Sadly I agree with you on this on...I can see lots of problems and headhaches :(

That would be a logistical nightmare.

i am still lost?

WHY IS THERE PROBLEMS AND HEADACHES?

you dont own the trademark you dont own the domain, just like any other extension.

Indeed a strange POV. Arguing that "dot xxx" would be the best way to STOP censorship is like arguing that the best way to lose weight is to three McDonalds extra values meals for dinner every night. Twisted logic, to say the least.

And the "protect the children" angle has been widely discredited. Is anyone still buying that?

Even though three congressmen are already lined up to MAKE this mandatory, who said the government is the biggest threat? Think credit cards.

I see a lot of ifs ands buts and ors here... feels like Saturday morning watching Schoolhouse Rock...

Ya know I recall several of my hosting clients telling me how no major upstream would be blocking spam traffic either as it accounted for a large percentage of bandwidth.

There are no assurances here other than this whole thing stinks from every angle. My guess is some of the "trademark" consultants are the same as the TLD consultants... speaking for the entire industry.

Best part is those buying into the xxx landgrab bonanza.

Its all FOOL'S GOLD!!!

That is never going to happen, from what I have heard. Never even heard it being discussed. Names will go on sale like any other names, and its optional in any case. There is no precedent for what you are suggesting, although obviously if I owned a big name .com I would think that was the ticket. :thumbsup

And --

In my view someday forcing porn into xxx might be a good thing. Obviously not too many of you have kids, or you would know that filters don't work. Take any pc loaded with filters and go google hunting, and you can quickly come up with porn. That is the problem and there is no apparent solution.

I don't like the .xxx idea, sure it would be cool to get a .xxx ending, but as long as we can still promote pron on .com

and I think moving all porn sites to .xxx is actually the worst way to stop censorship, then they just have to block that ending and all porn is censored...

correct :thumbsup

Dot Coms will have to get first pick or it will be a shit storm.

what he said , i would add arnold schwarzenegger blowing the head off a bad guy is not an issue , still its more dangerous in a child's mind than a girl sucking a dick