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  • Doctor Dre
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    • Jan 2001
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    #1

    Gay rights ... adoption .

    My friend gotta make an expose tomorow (more like a debate ...) . She is supposed to be FOR gay adoption . I'm trying to help her raise points but this isn't too easy Anybody would think of some good points ?
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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    • European Lee
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      • Dec 2002
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      #2
      Fuck no.

      Dont let gay families adopt kids, it stops them going out and me laying them

      It also cuts their household income by 30-60% thus decreasing their spending power.

      Regards,

      Lee
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        • kernelpanic
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          • Jan 2005
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          #3
          Umm, its not the place of the government to define ideal family structure, nor discriminate on such a basis.

          Also, have her talk about how gay couples can be just as loving and do just as good as a heterosexual set of parents. A child is 3 times as likely to be abused by heterosexual parents as homosexual parents.


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            • European Lee
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              • Dec 2002
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              #4
              Originally posted by kernelpanic
              A child is 3 times as likely to be abused by heterosexual parents as homosexual parents.
              You dont think that has anything to do with the fact there are 3 times MORE hetrosexual couples with kids than there are gay?

              Of course they are 3 times more likely to be abused by hetro couples, there are more of them

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                • kernelpanic
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                  • Jan 2005
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by European Lee
                  You dont think that has anything to do with the fact there are 3 times MORE hetrosexual couples with kids than there are gay?

                  Of course they are 3 times more likely to be abused by hetro couples, there are more of them

                  Regards,

                  Lee
                  That statistic is weighted based on number of couples.

                  In 1000 homosexual adoptive settings, a child has a X in 1000 chance of being abused.

                  In 1000 heterosexual adoptive settings, a child has a 3X in 1000 chance of being abused.


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                    • mardigras
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #6
                      Would you rather a child be placed in a loving home with 2 gay parents or force them to be placed in a man/woman household despite abusive, alcoholic, drug, or abandoning because they were the result of a "joy fuck".
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                        • mardigras
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by kernelpanic
                          That statistic is weighted based on number of couples.

                          In 1000 homosexual adoptive settings, a child has a X in 1000 chance of being abused.

                          In 1000 heterosexual adoptive settings, a child has a 3X in 1000 chance of being abused.
                          Numbers don't matter. Child molesters should be punished. Nothing to do with child adoption or placement.
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                            • mardigras
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by European Lee
                              Fuck no.

                              Dont let gay families adopt kids, it stops them going out and me laying them

                              It also cuts their household income by 30-60% thus decreasing their spending power.

                              Regards,

                              Lee
                              As much as being a fellow gay person I try to find you funny or amusing... I dont.
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                                • Doctor Dre
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                                  • Jan 2001
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                  You dont think that has anything to do with the fact there are 3 times MORE hetrosexual couples with kids than there are gay?

                                  Of course they are 3 times more likely to be abused by hetro couples, there are more of them

                                  Regards,

                                  Lee
                                  I'd say it's probably because gay parents REALLY want their kids ... some hetero just make errors cauz they get the bitch pregnant . fucking whtie trash
                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                    • kernelpanic
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                                      • Jan 2005
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                      Numbers don't matter. Child molesters should be punished. Nothing to do with child adoption or placement.
                                      Sure they do, children are, statistically, safer being adopted into a gay household than a straight one. That statistic certianly backs up the point of view that the threadstarter's friend is supposed to take


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                                        • European Lee
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by mardigras
                                          As much as being a fellow gay person I try to find you funny or amusing... I dont.
                                          Thats fine, im not here to make friends, im here to make money

                                          Regards,

                                          Lee
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                                            • European Lee
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by kernelpanic
                                              Sure they do, children are, statistically, safer being adopted into a gay household than a straight one. That statistic certianly backs up the point of view that the threadstarter's friend is supposed to take
                                              Can you post some unbiased stats to back those figures up?

                                              Id certainly be interested in seeing them

                                              Regards,

                                              Lee
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                                                • bringer
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                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                  Would you rather a child be placed in a loving home with 2 gay parents or force them to be placed in a man/woman household despite abusive, alcoholic, drug, or abandoning because they were the result of a "joy fuck".
                                                  BS arguement i hear all the time. not all gay couples are loving and drug free. not all hetrosexual couples are molestors and drug users. it should be a case by case basis and any loving and productive home that the child could prosper in should be considered, gay or not.
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                                                    • kernelpanic
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                                                      • Jan 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                      Can you post some unbiased stats to back those figures up?

                                                      Id certainly be interested in seeing them

                                                      Regards,

                                                      Lee
                                                      lol, let me see if I have last semester's term papers on my laptop
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                                                        • wjxxx
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                                                          • Feb 2005
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                                                          #15
                                                          Yea this child will be very happy, especially in the school

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                                                            • mardigras
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                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by European Lee
                                                              Thats fine, im not here to make friends, im here to make money

                                                              Regards,

                                                              Lee
                                                              Me too, and it goes where it belongs
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                                                                • European Lee
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by bringer
                                                                  BS arguement i hear all the time. not all gay couples are loving and drug free. not all hetrosexual couples are molestors and drug users. it should be a case by case basis and any loving and productive home that the child could prosper in should be considered, gay or not.
                                                                  Agreed.

                                                                  I know im fed up of hearing how gay couples are all caring, they simply arent, just as all straight couples arent caring we are individuals, therefore we all have our own faults and merrits.

                                                                  Regards,

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                                                                    • bringer
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                                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                      Agreed.

                                                                      I know im fed up of hearing how gay couples are all caring, they simply arent, just as all straight couples arent caring we are individuals, therefore we all have our own faults and merrits.

                                                                      Regards,

                                                                      Lee
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                                                                        • European Lee
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by bringer
                                                                          eh, what do i know, im just a peon.
                                                                          True enough

                                                                          Regards,

                                                                          Lee
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                                                                            • mardigras
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by bringer
                                                                              BS arguement i hear all the time. not all gay couples are loving and drug free. not all hetrosexual couples are molestors and drug users. it should be a case by case basis and any loving and productive home that the child could prosper in should be considered, gay or not.
                                                                              Well DUH. I never suggested all heterosexual couples are child molesters nor drug users, but those who wish to prevent gay couples from adopting always preach about the influence on children and suggest similar things.

                                                                              I would like to see just one person who suggests gay persons raising children will influence them to be gay to prove that one suspected gay tendency child has been "cured" by taking them away from homosexuals and placing them with confirmed heterosexuals.

                                                                              And why do so many heterosexuals have queer kids anyways? Fuckers. It's their fault
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                                                                                • bringer
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                                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                  Well DUH. I never suggested all heterosexual couples are child molesters nor drug users, but those who wish to prevent gay couples from adopting always preach about the influence on children and suggest similar things.

                                                                                  I would like to see just one person who suggests gay persons raising children will influence them to be gay to prove that one suspected gay tendency child has been "cured" by taking them away from homosexuals and placing them with confirmed heterosexuals.

                                                                                  And why do so many heterosexuals have queer kids anyways? Fuckers. It's their fault
                                                                                  your whole argument seemed to suggest that. only child molesters and druggies want to adopt just isnt the case. i know you didnt say it that way but the way it was and is worded seems to suggest its one or the other. gay family or abusive family. will they grow up gay? who knows. for someone to say they know for a fact either way is bullshit. you dont know, i dont know. if it increases their chances of being gay, who really gives a fuck? at least they grow up in a safe environment and are allowed to make the decision themselves.
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                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      http://www.10percent.org/adoption.html

                                                                                      read this . everything is on there :

                                                                                      The children in the street need parents . that's their main argument ... rofl
                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                        • European Lee
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                          http://www.10percent.org/adoption.html

                                                                                          read this . everything is on there :

                                                                                          The children in the street need parents . that's their main argument ... rofl
                                                                                          Thats a pretty fucking good argument gay or straight IMHO.

                                                                                          Regards,

                                                                                          Lee
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                                                                                            • mardigras
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by bringer
                                                                                              your whole argument seemed to suggest that. only child molesters and druggies want to adopt just isnt the case.
                                                                                              Jeebeebus , dude... if you read anything remotely to that in my posts I either totally failed when I plugged in my keyboard or you were inattentavely skimming threads and casually answering.
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                                                                                                • Centurion
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                  Can you post some unbiased stats to back those figures up?

                                                                                                  Id certainly be interested in seeing them

                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                  Lee

                                                                                                  Can you post some unbiased stats that shows they aren't?

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                                                                                                    • European Lee
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                      Can you post some unbiased stats that shows they aren't?
                                                                                                      Absolutely not.

                                                                                                      Most of the stats that have been 'published' by groups surrounding this debate are always weighed in favor of the group publishing them

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                                                                                                        • mardigras
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                          Absolutely not.

                                                                                                          Most of the stats that have been 'published' by groups surrounding this debate are always weighed in favor of the group publishing them

                                                                                                          Regards,

                                                                                                          Lee
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                                                                                                          Regards,
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                                                                                                            • geeksta
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              If it's "morals" and "values" people are whining about on this, let's start with those who are have the highest divorce rates in the nation, evangelical christians.
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                                                                                                                • mardigras
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by geeksta
                                                                                                                  If it's "morals" and "values" people are whining about on this, let's start with those who are have the highest divorce rates in the nation, evangelical christians.
                                                                                                                  You are watching O'reilly on Fox News right now aren't you?
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                                                                                                                    • Mrs. Lenny2
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bringer
                                                                                                                      it should be a case by case basis and any loving and productive home that the child could prosper in should be considered, gay or not.
                                                                                                                      I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Gay or straight, as long as the child is brought up in a loving, accepting home, I have no issue with it.
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                                                                                                                        • mardigras
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mrs. Lenny2
                                                                                                                          I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Gay or straight, as long as the child is brought up in a loving, accepting home, I have no issue with it.
                                                                                                                          You are in a minority. The 51% "mandate" says you are a pervert.
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                                                                                                                            • European Lee
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                              Michael Jackson will be convicted by someone who knows someone just like you

                                                                                                                              Regards,
                                                                                                                              mardigras
                                                                                                                              WTF does Michael Jackson have to do with anything? Or are you stating that gay couples only adopt children to molest them?

                                                                                                                              Regards,

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                                                                                                                                • bringer
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                  Jeebeebus , dude... if you read anything remotely to that in my posts I either totally failed when I plugged in my keyboard or you were inattentavely skimming threads and casually answering.
                                                                                                                                  i was refering to this

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                  Would you rather a child be placed in a loving home with 2 gay parents or force them to be placed in a man/woman household despite abusive, alcoholic, drug, or abandoning because they were the result of a "joy fuck".
                                                                                                                                  when reading that it seemed like you were saying those were the only options. i know you dont actually think thats the case.
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