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xxxjay 06-01-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
SPIN IT ANY WAY U LIKE-
You are the one who is in the dark-
I am not.

They can try to ruin my credibility but everyone knows I get the straight poop.
And it's stinks.

My personal axe to grind is with all the liars in this business- Paul is only one of them in my opinion - there are many, many more to be exposed in the coming months

Go get 'em KB!

XPays 06-01-2005 06:48 PM

Fyi

http://uspto.gov "XXX" Issued Live Trademark Held by http://XPays.com

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=78127349

it won't be the government ghettoizing the adult internet with .xxx - it will be the credit card companies, if anybody, who have the ability to say "all adult sites billed by visa are required to use .xxx blah blah blah". Visa and mc make their own rules unlike the gov't who has to deal with pesky issues like free speech.

Post courtesy of:

http://XPays.com

kernelpanic 06-01-2005 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
this isnt about kids its about money and unfortunately most who we think are allies really would sell us out in a minute .

Some people see this as protecting children, even though each new TLD brings hundreds of millions in new domain registrations. The people pushing the .xxx TLD have all the hysterical parents behind them, which amounts to basically free publicity on a "webmaster responsibility" platform.


Ugh :Oh crap

tony286 06-01-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic
Some people see this as protecting children, even though each new TLD brings hundreds of millions in new domain registrations. The people pushing the .xxx TLD have all the hysterical parents behind them, which amounts to basically free publicity on a "webmaster responsibility" platform.


Ugh :Oh crap

I highly doubt that because if that was the case they would be cheap $10 a domain not 60 to 75 . If everybody is so crazy about protecting kids how come no one ever came out with a kids only browser thats only sees .sites with a special kid meta tag. I will tell you why because kids are the excuse which is sad

Connor 06-01-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
it won't be the government ghettoizing the adult internet with .xxx - it will be the credit card companies, if anybody, who have the ability to say "all adult sites billed by visa are required to use .xxx blah blah blah". Visa and mc make their own rules unlike the gov't who has to deal with pesky issues like free speech.

That's an EXCELLENT point... far easier to make .XXX essentially forced on us if you somehow get Visa and MC on board. Gee, I wonder how much money these .XXX people would make if Visa somehow decided that they were only going to process for adult sites on .XXX domain names? And of course if this damn domain name extension hadn't gone through in the first place, we wouldn't be worrying about this at all since Visa can't force ICANN to create an adult-only domain name extension. I'd REALLY like to know which companies put us in this mess.

FightThisPatent 06-01-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I think a better alternative would be a .kids TLD, whose sites are subject to a strict domain registration TOS. T


I agree with you 100%.

Great comments, but more should have been done on ICANN's public forum over the proposed TLD at the time rather than now, after the fact.

I made my comments in this May 13, 2003 post. I included several links along with my thoughts:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00053.html


Fight the nothing more to say!

$pikes 06-01-2005 07:45 PM

Geezus Christ....


XBIZ


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TORONTO ? The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers has announced that it has entered into technical and commercial negotiations with ICM Registry regarding the proposed adoption of the .XXX sponsored Top-Level Domain.

ICM Registry first submitted an application to act as official registry for the .XXX sTLD in 2000. ICANN has determined that ICM Registry's proposal meets the organization's criteria and can move forward.

ICM Registry is the only candidate under consideration and its approval is likely.

While ICANN Spokesman Kieran Baker called the negotiations a ?significant step,? he added it is ?only a step in an ongoing process.? He added that the ICANN board will make a final decision on the status of ICM Registry after negotiations have been completed. Baker declined to speculate on when the board will make its decision.

Nonetheless, Stuart Lawley, ICM Registry chairman and president, remained optimistic.

"I expect that we will begin registering the .XXX domain by the fourth quarter of this year,? Lawley said. "There will be a comprehensive intellectual property protection program tailored to support both the rights of existing adult webmasters and the wider IP community."

According to ICM Registry, the application for a .XXX domain is aimed at creating an identifiable area of the web that will help protect children from adult content while also enabling ?responsible adult-entertainment website operators to self-organize and self-regulate on a voluntary basis.?

If selected, ICM Registry will manage the technical aspects of the domain, whereas the International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR), a Canadian-based nonprofit founded four years ago, will act as the sponsorship and policy-delegating organization.

IFFOR also would promote the adoption and usage of the .XXX sTLD, as well as responsible business conduct within the adult community, communication between the community and other Internet stakeholders and business practices that safeguard children online and combat child pornography.

While the selling price for .XXX domains has not yet been determined, Hendeles said that $10 of each domain sale will be designated to IFFOR to contribute to issues facing the online adult industry, and of those proceeds, a percentage will be donated to Adult Sites Advocating Child Protection and the battle against child pornography.

TheGoldenChild 06-01-2005 08:02 PM

I happen to know Jason from way back and he wanted me to get involved with backing this a while ago-

I just never saw the intrinsic value for webmasters here-
Jason is a very smart guy, but rallying webmasters to get behind this is an arduous task that is insurmountable

TheGoldenChild 06-01-2005 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Go get 'em KB!

and away we go

Connor 06-01-2005 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
I just never saw the intrinsic value for webmasters here-
Jason is a very smart guy, but rallying webmasters to get behind this is an arduous task that is insurmountable

Completely agree.

sonofsam 06-01-2005 08:52 PM

whats 2257? :winkwink:

Spunky 06-01-2005 08:53 PM

I hope spunky.xxx will be available

JD 06-01-2005 08:54 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/475442-xxx-happen.html

Connor 06-01-2005 08:57 PM

"and of those proceeds, a percentage will be donated to Adult Sites Advocating Child Protection and the battle against child pornography"

I guess that answers the question as to whether or not ASACP was offered money in exchange for their support. It would be a shame if this .XXX thing ends up causing SERIOUS hardship on the industry and it was brought about so that someone could cash in on a percentage of each domain name sale. I'd like to know if the ASACP Advisory Counsel agreed to supporting this and if they did what their reasons were other than money, or if this was something that was mandated from above. Did Joan make this decision? Did Helmy? Seems that ASACP's mission is being used to justify this .XXX bullshit, and I find that VERY unfortunate. Has Helmy gone on record about this yet?

Anthony 06-01-2005 09:08 PM

I was at one of their meetings where they were looking for support back in 2003, as were some I see posting in this thread.

I voted no, the majority of the people asked to raise their hands regarding adopting an xxx tld voted no.

This is bullshit, right from the start. It is relegating all of us into a managed and controled area.

Do not let this come to being.

Mr.Fiction 06-01-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor
"and of those proceeds, a percentage will be donated to Adult Sites Advocating Child Protection and the battle against child pornography"

What is wrong with ASACP supporting this bullshit? They are getting paid to support it?

If they are getting paid to support it, isn't that a conflict of interest with their supposed goals of protecting kids?

One of their main goal should be to protect free speech if they are industry supported.

If they don't support free speech, how are they any better than those right wing groups attacking porn and claiming it's for "the children"?

fuzzylogic 06-02-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Connor
Sorry to hear that... your help would have been valuable.


why do you say so? (i was not part of it, this is why i do not know)

fuzzylogic 06-02-2005 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I think a better alternative would be a .kids TLD, whose sites are subject to a strict domain registration TOS. This way, there will be a "safe zone" for those who wish to be exposed to a narrow slice of the internet. Trying to restrict pornography, or any other objectionable form of content, is against the principles of free information flow on which the internet was founded.

thats fucking great! that is an awesome idea

polish_aristocrat 06-02-2005 03:18 AM

bump :disgust

Redrob 06-02-2005 03:30 AM

FSC has not supported the .xxx domains. They are bad for free speech. Money and a seat on the Board couldn't buy FSC support.

Now, whose your daddy?

B2BwithJoeD 06-02-2005 04:03 AM

:disgust

REDUX

http://www7.nationalacademies.org/it...tepaper_7.html

Read your history.

B2BwithJoeD 06-02-2005 04:26 AM

http://www7.nationalacademies.org/itas/whitepaper_7.html
 
:Oh crap

hmm - that was weird.

tradermcduck 06-02-2005 05:51 AM

These guys will make their $1.5 million investment back in one day :disgust

Socks 06-02-2005 01:36 PM

Where do we complain?

Best thing I've read about this is that if we don't support a .XXX idea, then we shouldn't buy the domain names.

This action unfortunately brings potential risks. If for some reason there was a .com porn cleanup, you'd regret not having bought your .xxx domain. So essentially we're being forced to buy extra domain names to cover our ass, even though we don't want to, as a backup, in case this goes where we all can easily see it going. Without this company pushing for a .XXX TLD we would not be forced to do so. Isn't this illegal? There's gotta be a name for that.

That's like getting a new phone area code, and Bell telling us that we'll possibly lose our old phone numbers in the future if we don't buy a SECOND phone line now with the new area code. But even worse of course. WTF?!

GatorB 06-02-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tradermcduck
These guys will make their $1.5 million investment back in one day :disgust

How I thought no one was supporting this?

xxxjay 06-02-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor
"and of those proceeds, a percentage will be donated to Adult Sites Advocating Child Protection and the battle against child pornography"

I guess that answers the question as to whether or not ASACP was offered money in exchange for their support. It would be a shame if this .XXX thing ends up causing SERIOUS hardship on the industry and it was brought about so that someone could cash in on a percentage of each domain name sale. I'd like to know if the ASACP Advisory Counsel agreed to supporting this and if they did what their reasons were other than money, or if this was something that was mandated from above. Did Joan make this decision? Did Helmy? Seems that ASACP's mission is being used to justify this .XXX bullshit, and I find that VERY unfortunate. Has Helmy gone on record about this yet?

I don?t suppose any of this will really matter unless the use of these becomes mandatory. I would really like to see a list of who stands to gain from this. Without naming any names, it disgusts me to see people attempting to profit from the current unstable atmosphere that surrounds the industry in the name of ?child pornography?.

That is bullshit. Everybody knows that CP to the mainstream adult biz is a scourge. Honestly, I don?t even know how CP guys make money because nobody I know would even process a transaction for that shit.

CP just gives people convenient high moral ground to stand on and there have been a number of organizations (including the government) that are using it to fuck with a lot of people right now. It?s a bullshit tactic, its wrong, and it obscures the real problem.

It would be very easy to make a meta tag that would block adult content. That would be free and I?m sure everyone would do it, plus if you made it mandatory it would be easy to enforce.

Why hasn?t anyone suggested anything like this?

taibo 06-02-2005 01:48 PM

damn thats bad news


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