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Old 05-31-2005, 10:49 PM   #1
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A Post that I think deservers a thread!

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17. Who do you look up to in this business? Down on?

Who do I look up to? That?s a tough question. As I mentioned earlier in the thread this is an industry of temptation. It?s very easy to turn a blind eye and do the wrong thing to pad your own pocket. I respect the people that are able to say no to temptation and make their money the ethical way. There are 4 names that immediately come to mind.

David Uwate from Scoreland. I?ve mentioned a lot about him earlier in the thread.
Jeff and Lou from Karups. I?ve already detailed my thoughts on them.

One person I haven?t mentioned that I look up to is Kim from AtkCash. Kim is another rare gem in our industry. He is without a doubt one of the most intelligent men that I?ve met in my life. Nobody knows this but 7 years ago when I was just starting out Kim gave me a phone call. We spoke for about 2 hours and on that phone call he basically outlined and gave me a complete business model and a detailed plan for my paysite. I didn?t listen to his advice. His advice was detailed and very in-depth and for some reason I didn?t follow it. Jeff, from Karups, got the same advice and followed it. As a result Karups has been a major Paysite player for the past 6 years and Twistys has only been for the past 2 years. I?ll never make that mistake again. You can?t put a $$$ amount on good advice. I just consider myself lucky to have known Kim then and to know him now. There are far too few Kim?s in this industry.

I look up to Ernesto, Robert, Kris, Pipecrew the whole Bang/Nasty group. They?ve quickly grown to the top of our industry. They?ve done so by staying clean. They did it by backing up Solid Marketing with a Solid product. They started out with Sublime and have since gone on to be the kings of the industry. I love doing business and hanging out with these guys and it?s refreshing to finally see one of the top 10 paysites are run by a company that isn?t a chargeback risk.

I know a lot of people in this industry look up to guys like MarcDe. I think that is one of the problems. Too many people are looking up to the wrong people and are following the wrong lead. Do I respect MarcDe and his success? HELL YEAH! He has been extremely successful and set himself up for life. Do I look up to him? HELL NO! It?s guys like MarcDe that ran at VERY VERY VERY high Chargeback rates and put billing companies at risk and caused Visa and MC to come down hard on our industry. ARS was a great success but they were all marketing and no substance. They ran way above industry average CB rates to the point that Paycom and Ccbill will not even process for them today. ARS is stuck using ibill and stormpay. Does Marc care? Probably not. He made his money and doesn?t have to work another day in his life. That is the example he and guys like Ron Levi, Seth W, Brian Shuster, JoeE/JB, David Van Der Pool , Frank Wally have set. Make your money at all costs even if it eventually destroys your industry. All of those guys have been very successful and made shitloads of money. Good for them. But at the same time I don?t see Ron, Seth or Brian trying to comply with 1% chargeback rates that they played a huge part in having imposed on us. We are now left to clean up their mess while they are retired and enjoying their riches. I have trouble looking up to someone that has done serious damage to an industry I am a part of.

Who do I look down on? I look down on people that screw over the end user. We work our asses off to gain their trust and people abuse that trust and screw over the surfer. I have no respect for people that do that. Perfect example is Hooper the Spyware scum. He is hijacking people?s computers and stealing from them. Hopefully the law will throw scum like him in jail.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:24 AM   #2
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:26 AM   #3
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