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Hymes 05-31-2005 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Tom,

Good seeing you out and about-
I am here for you whatever you need-

CHECK YOUR EMAIL AS WELL

GREAT to see you! I'll check my email.

I knew I could count on you, and could care less what the universe says, I know your heart is in the right place. ;-)

Sarah_Jayne 05-31-2005 04:03 PM

cool..there is/was a way around it on the old/current form but you had to figure it out (it wouldn't accept non-USA zip codes) and I am sure a lot of people just didn't bother to try twice.

J$tyle$ 05-31-2005 04:03 PM

Good post, Tom!

Nice to see you here!

:)

Check your email!

OY 05-31-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes
Good afternoon, GFY! I'm postingf or the first time, so....

There were a few long threads late last week about the Free Speech Coalition and 2257, to which I would have posted if I hadn?t been in very long meetings and then at home with the cable down, a holiday gift from Adelphia. My loss, but Connor Young more than held his own, and I doubt I could have improved upon his comments.

However? let me add a few thoughts of my own before I officially start tomorrow.

First, I am very excited to be jumping into the much-needed position of Communications Director, working for a great new Executive Director and a dedicated and talented Board, which also with some new members. I have so much to do it?s almost overwhelming, but I am optimistic about what we can achieve, and look forward to getting started.

My first official request is to implore those of you are so inclined to hit me up and let me know what you think the FSC can and should do to ensure the survival of this industry, and how you would like to help. While I begin work with a full slate of immediate and long-term goals, I think it?s important that anyone, especially on the Internet side, who has something constructive to add, take the time to communicate with its most effective and organized trade organization, and why not through me?

If you don?t have my numbers, please hit me up at [email protected] or [email protected], or call the offices at 818-348-9373. Office Manager Neva Chevalier ([email protected]) handles official volunteer coordination, but I am very interested in hearing what you have to say, and will respond with ICQ, AIM and cell numbers galore to everyone except unhelpful flamers. (I especially request KB to get in touch with me, as I envision him helping in great ways.)

Second, as a brief but important aside, I hope it?s clear that the FSC is not the enemy; the creators of these new regulations, and certainly the regs themselves, are. It is they, not we, that have brought us to a point where armed agents of Homeland Security, wielding the 2257 regs in one hand and a copy of the Patriot Act in the other, could very likely be making some extremely intimidating visits to adult companies within a month. So the question is, do you feel lucky, punk, or do you want to do something about it?

No matter what other legal challenges are undertaken, I obviously think it?s important for everyone to support the Free Speech Coalition, in the long term and short term, by especially by supporting what will be a significant and multi-pronged legal challenge by experienced lawyers who have won before, and I expect that over time everyone will step up and do just that.

It?s important, because:

- A full-frontal assault like these regs, so arrogant in their unconstitutional hostility to our fundamental rights, and so impossible to comply with, demands your attention!

- The selfless members of Board of the FSC, who receive no compensation for the significant time they spend working on your behalf, deserve your support!

- The brilliant attorneys who are already hard at work preparing challenges to these regulations - for a fraction of what they could make in private practice - absolutely warrant everyone?s gratitude and support!

As a last matter, no one from the FSC has said or meant to suggest that someone should become a member of the FSC in order to be protected under an injunction that does not even exist. While it is a fact that under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure only parties to litigation are covered by an injunction, it has also been amply explained by now that while technical limitations apply, the practical result of some injunctions is that no one is prosecuted while the injunction is in effect, as has happened with COPA.

At any rate, the FSC press release of May 25, 2005 makes clear that ?being a member of the Free Speech Coalition does not mean that compliance is unnecessary. Every producer of actually sexually explicit conduct is covered by the existing regulations and the new regulations (which take effect June 23, 2005).?

In short, there are a hundred great reasons to become a member of FSC, but impermanent and impossible to define protections that may never materialize is not one of them.

Peace, and see you on the battle lines,

Tom Hymes
Communications Director
Free Speech Coalition
[email protected]


Tom, good to see you in this position. It is clearly where you belong!

I know you will serve us all very well.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

TheGoldenChild 05-31-2005 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes
GREAT to see you! I'll check my email.

I knew I could count on you, and could care less what the universe says, I know your heart is in the right place. ;-)

Well, you know me better than most.
:-))

Doctor Dre 05-31-2005 04:51 PM

Congrats on your new position !

dcortez 05-31-2005 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes
Very interesting suggestion. We are certainly going to be developing Best Practices, and speaking for myself, I think Peer Review is a sensitive subject, and has to be implemented carefully, but if there ever was an industry that could use a dose of it, this is it. That isn't an official statement saying we will do it, because the board I think will have to agree to something like that, but there are many ways to skin a cat.

I am so champing at the bit to start getting out there into the heartland of America and not just defend thisn industry, but really begin defining these issues correctly once and for all, that I'm about to blow a gasket. Thanks for the suggstions!

That's great to hear!

I do appreciate that Peer Review is a Pandora's Box, but I don't think there is a better industry than ours to address the challenge of distilling/defining a model which balances 'Freedom of Expression' with 'Accountability for Expression' (visa vi economic harm to the industry, lost opportunities/access to markets, undermining accomplishments in cultural acceptance, etc.).

The scope of what I was proposing may (understandably) step outside of the core mandate of FSC. The difficulty in achieving a tolerant (at the very least) mainstream perception of the adult industry is compounded when the extreme niche producers get 'mixed in' with the less mysogonistic producers and the public sees us as the worst and most extreme examples available.

This is definitely a pardox. I don't want to limit anyone's ability to produce any creative works they choose (aside from the obvious exploitive stuff), but I also don't want my efforts and investments in my own 'textures' of erotica and adult entertainment to be materially undermined by those (albiet legal) working at the other end of the scale. How do we acheive this?

I suppose separate professional associations could contain the guidelines and standards to establish and maintain their own repective positions in culture and the marketplace (eg. Soft Erotic Entertainment Association, Extreme Free For All Group, etc) without infringing on any freedoms of expression.

I believe the accounting world has several classes of accounting professionals - maybe adult could be handled the same way, so those who want to penetrate the mainstream world more effectively won't be hampered by those who scare mainstreamers.

Or, do you think that an ideal success for FSC would be for mainstreamers to not be scared of anything?

-Dino

Rand 05-31-2005 05:20 PM

That may deserve some kind of award for "Best First Post".

Great seeing you on the boards Tom. Congratulations on your new position which is clearly a great fit for you and the FSC.

Looking forward to seeing how things progress and hearing about it from someone so trusted in the industry.

All the best to you and I look forward to seeing you soon.

reynold 05-31-2005 05:23 PM

See you around buddy!

$pikes 05-31-2005 05:28 PM

Thanks for the post Tom!

TheSenator 05-31-2005 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes
Good afternoon, GFY! I'm postingf or the first time, so....

There were a few long threads late last week about the Free Speech Coalition and 2257, to which I would have posted if I hadn?t been in very long meetings and then at home with the cable down, a holiday gift from Adelphia. My loss, but Connor Young more than held his own, and I doubt I could have improved upon his comments.

However? let me add a few thoughts of my own before I officially start tomorrow.

First, I am very excited to be jumping into the much-needed position of Communications Director, working for a great new Executive Director and a dedicated and talented Board, which also with some new members. I have so much to do it?s almost overwhelming, but I am optimistic about what we can achieve, and look forward to getting started.

My first official request is to implore those of you are so inclined to hit me up and let me know what you think the FSC can and should do to ensure the survival of this industry, and how you would like to help. While I begin work with a full slate of immediate and long-term goals, I think it?s important that anyone, especially on the Internet side, who has something constructive to add, take the time to communicate with its most effective and organized trade organization, and why not through me?

If you don?t have my numbers, please hit me up at [email protected] or [email protected], or call the offices at 818-348-9373. Office Manager Neva Chevalier ([email protected]) handles official volunteer coordination, but I am very interested in hearing what you have to say, and will respond with ICQ, AIM and cell numbers galore to everyone except unhelpful flamers. (I especially request KB to get in touch with me, as I envision him helping in great ways.)

Second, as a brief but important aside, I hope it?s clear that the FSC is not the enemy; the creators of these new regulations, and certainly the regs themselves, are. It is they, not we, that have brought us to a point where armed agents of Homeland Security, wielding the 2257 regs in one hand and a copy of the Patriot Act in the other, could very likely be making some extremely intimidating visits to adult companies within a month. So the question is, do you feel lucky, punk, or do you want to do something about it?

No matter what other legal challenges are undertaken, I obviously think it?s important for everyone to support the Free Speech Coalition, in the long term and short term, by especially by supporting what will be a significant and multi-pronged legal challenge by experienced lawyers who have won before, and I expect that over time everyone will step up and do just that.

It?s important, because:

- A full-frontal assault like these regs, so arrogant in their unconstitutional hostility to our fundamental rights, and so impossible to comply with, demands your attention!

- The selfless members of Board of the FSC, who receive no compensation for the significant time they spend working on your behalf, deserve your support!

- The brilliant attorneys who are already hard at work preparing challenges to these regulations - for a fraction of what they could make in private practice - absolutely warrant everyone?s gratitude and support!

As a last matter, no one from the FSC has said or meant to suggest that someone should become a member of the FSC in order to be protected under an injunction that does not even exist. While it is a fact that under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure only parties to litigation are covered by an injunction, it has also been amply explained by now that while technical limitations apply, the practical result of some injunctions is that no one is prosecuted while the injunction is in effect, as has happened with COPA.

At any rate, the FSC press release of May 25, 2005 makes clear that ?being a member of the Free Speech Coalition does not mean that compliance is unnecessary. Every producer of actually sexually explicit conduct is covered by the existing regulations and the new regulations (which take effect June 23, 2005).?

In short, there are a hundred great reasons to become a member of FSC, but impermanent and impossible to define protections that may never materialize is not one of them.

Peace, and see you on the battle lines,

Tom Hymes
Communications Director
Free Speech Coalition
[email protected]

I think "we" as an industry need "talking points" to clarify what we are fighting for.

For example, when asked by a non-industry people, "What is the big deal in record keeping?"
Answer:
.....fill in the blank....

or when non-industry people use the CP card(just like the race card)
Are you against CP or not?

We need easy to use laymen terms to clarify our ideas as a whole.

Thanks

NTSS 05-31-2005 05:36 PM

Welcome Tom...congrats on your new position! :thumbsup

RedShoe 05-31-2005 05:39 PM

welcome to gfy

TheLegacy 05-31-2005 05:39 PM

finally some sanity and clear answers rather than hearing armchair lawyers giving mis information. IM glad that webmaster paradise has supported and will continue to support Free Speech Coalition. Keep up the good work.

Hymes 05-31-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez
That's great to hear!

I do appreciate that Peer Review is a Pandora's Box, but I don't think there is a better industry than ours to address the challenge of distilling/defining a model which balances 'Freedom of Expression' with 'Accountability for Expression' (visa vi economic harm to the industry, lost opportunities/access to markets, undermining accomplishments in cultural acceptance, etc.).

The scope of what I was proposing may (understandably) step outside of the core mandate of FSC. The difficulty in achieving a tolerant (at the very least) mainstream perception of the adult industry is compounded when the extreme niche producers get 'mixed in' with the less mysogonistic producers and the public sees us as the worst and most extreme examples available.

This is definitely a pardox. I don't want to limit anyone's ability to produce any creative works they choose (aside from the obvious exploitive stuff), but I also don't want my efforts and investments in my own 'textures' of erotica and adult entertainment to be materially undermined by those (albiet legal) working at the other end of the scale. How do we acheive this?

I suppose separate professional associations could contain the guidelines and standards to establish and maintain their own repective positions in culture and the marketplace (eg. Soft Erotic Entertainment Association, Extreme Free For All Group, etc) without infringing on any freedoms of expression.

I believe the accounting world has several classes of accounting professionals - maybe adult could be handled the same way, so those who want to penetrate the mainstream world more effectively won't be hampered by those who scare mainstreamers.

Or, do you think that an ideal success for FSC would be for mainstreamers to not be scared of anything?

-Dino

Dino,

I really have to run out. After all, I really start full-time tomorrow. ;-)

But I will respond to your very thoughtful post when I can. I agree with much of what you say, and certainly see - and have lived - the paradox as well as the challenge. Now my job is to work at that place where they intersect, and to find solutions, and I have been giving it a great deal of thought lately, to say the least.

You sound like a pragmatist who believes very deeply in freedom and responsibility. Or am I projecting, for that is exactly what I am.

I look forward to continuing this.

Hymes 05-31-2005 06:14 PM

To all,

Thanks for the kudos and kind thoughts.

Now I'm really inspired!

xxxjay 05-31-2005 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
finally some sanity and clear answers rather than hearing armchair lawyers giving mis information. IM glad that webmaster paradise has supported and will continue to support Free Speech Coalition. Keep up the good work.

Yeah, you can say that again. :)

Kimmykim 05-31-2005 07:39 PM

Yippee, Tom starts working tomorrow!!!! Congrats on the new gig, anything I can do to help you out, you know how to find me - however, with that said, I think you still owe me a trip out sailing, maybe we can have a "meeting" about these issues on the boat ;)

For anyone that isn't familiar with Tom, he is one of the most literate, intelligent and progressive thinking people in this industry. He's never been judgemental of the people in the business, while doing a very good job reporting on the business.

Great choice by the FSC getting him on board.

Fleshlight 06-02-2005 06:47 AM

Tom,
What about Google, MSN and Yahoo? Has FSC contacted them?

Check out these Google pages ->
http://images.google.com/images?as_q...arch=&safe=off

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?nu...arch +Froogle

BTW, Fleshlight.com became a FSC member yesterday and I copied you on an email sent this morning.

Hornydog4cooter 06-02-2005 07:35 AM

Tom,

What does person or group have to do to become a member of the FSC?

Thanks

grumpy 06-02-2005 07:40 AM

Just move to a descent country.
Here is the reason for your problems.


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Jake 06-02-2005 08:11 AM

Hey Tom, Welcome to the board and congrats on your new position. Looks like you'll definitely have your hands full. :winkwink:

Sharpie 06-02-2005 09:07 AM

Tom is just what the Free Speech Coalition needed. I have always found him intelligent, thoughtful & more than fair.

Cybernet Expo http://www.cybernetexpo.com/seminars.html has given our conference space over to the Free Speech group at the close of our regular scheduled seminars. Everyone is invited to attend. I am sure it will be newsworthy, informative, and well worth your time to be there.

The Adult Broker 06-02-2005 11:47 AM

a big welcome Tom, great to see you here!

I guess life just got very busy for you with th 2257 and .xxx bullshit.

latinasojourn 06-02-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes

As a last matter, no one from the FSC has said or meant to suggest that someone should become a member of the FSC in order to be protected under an injunction that does not even exist. While it is a fact that under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure only parties to litigation are covered by an injunction, it has also been amply explained by now that while technical limitations apply, the practical result of some injunctions is that no one is prosecuted while the injunction is in effect, as has happened with COPA.

Peace, and see you on the battle lines,

Tom Hymes
Communications Director
Free Speech Coalition
[email protected]


well, i respect a guy who tells the truth. i will take a new look at FSC.


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