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Machete_ 05-31-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains
they are basically the same thing!

adwords is the program for advertisers to add their ads

adsense is the program for webmasters to display adwords on their site

:pimp

That is actually PRETTY different

Allboutdamoney 05-31-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains
they are basically the same thing!

adwords is the program for advertisers to add their ads

adsense is the program for webmasters to display adwords on their site

:pimp


they are totally different when it comes to evaluating CPC. Most people are wondering what subjects would yield the highest CPC Ads. From my own experience, Payday loan, college education, and other financial related topics do well. Travel is one that is a large market and can perform consistant.

polish_aristocrat 05-31-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Allboutdamoney
The AdWORDS and Adsense PPC are totally different. You will get in between 10 cents and 1.50 for a payday loan site, but if you want the top spot for ADWORDS, it gets in the multiple dollar range. .

and the difference goes to Googles pocket?

$5 submissions 05-31-2005 03:09 PM

If you have a LOT of content, Ad Sense makes a LOT of Sense :)

Cains 05-31-2005 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Allboutdamoney
they are totally different when it comes to evaluating CPC. Most people are wondering what subjects would yield the highest CPC Ads. From my own experience, Payday loan, college education, and other financial related topics do well. Travel is one that is a large market and can perform consistant.

there's a way of doing CPC

The way google works for webmasters using adsense is not using the top (highest) PPC results for whatever particular keyword. I believe the actual technical equation is alot more advanced and constantly updated but its basically;

Google likes the top PPC to go on google's search page, this helps guard against high priced click fraud from advertisers. It also means google doesnt have to pay out 50% of that amount to their webmasters.

So generally you'll find #5 and below listed on adsense randomly, though this is variable based on number of searches and clickrate for that keyword throught google's search pages.

There's also a variable of what percentage of an advertisers budget goes on adsense as adsense is less productive generally than google's search pagesm (I said generally but there are exceptions) and google wants to be sending decent traffic to their advertisers otherwise they wont be spending more on google's traffic.

Using adsense to determine what keywords are hot is not a foolproof way to find out the CPC but if you use it properly it will tell you how many searches to expect on a keyword (I go for #1 on google's adwords gets 1/8th of the traffic of google's #1 search listing, which is a low estimate but it works in my favour). Also if you adjust your phony keyword PPC in adwords you can see what kind of dropoff you get the further you go down and how many advertisers there are for a particular keyword. It is by no means a way to 100% accurately guage a keyword value but it does provide an educated guess

kernelpanic 05-31-2005 03:21 PM

I make $50-90/day from several sites.

Vendot 05-31-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
i was making 20-30 bucks a day on a webchat site. until Google made me pull it off

What webchat site is it? Just curious.

I used to own a big one.

JD 05-31-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vendot
What webchat site is it? Just curious.

I used to own a big one.

it was actually a friends site. http://www.chatbomb.com

Allboutdamoney 05-31-2005 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
and the difference goes to Googles pocket?


Yes, there is no way to know how much they are charging their customers and what portion they are giving you. You just have to trust it. They claim they have a sophistocated formula to help serve relevant ads and remember, they also have to protect themselves from clickfraud..which is said to be as high as 20 percent of all paid clicks!

Allboutdamoney 05-31-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains
there's a way of doing CPC

Google likes the top PPC to go on google's search page, this helps guard against high priced click fraud from advertisers.

I'm not sure if they don't let advertisers with high CPC keywords show up on Adsense sites. I just imagine, and from experience, that Google just does not pay out 'fairly' on high CPC, due to the clickfraud as you mentioned. This is why when 'Mesothelioma Lawyers' was topping $100 per click a while ago, there is no way Google was going to give you any reasonable chunk of that from Adsense ads.

$5 submissions 05-31-2005 05:09 PM

50 Mainstream deep content high aggregate revenue stream sites.

MikeVega 05-31-2005 05:21 PM

I've been sending some of my cheapest 404 traffic to this page http://www.freevaluedeals.com/

and here is a chuck of my stats ..not bad extra for overflow traffic

Page impressions / Clicks Page /CTR / Page eCPM [?] /Your earnings

4,159.......................167........4.0%.....$2 2.53..............$93.72
8,461.......................536........6.3%.....$9 .89................$83.69
6,415.......................253........3.9%.....$2 0.56..............$131.92

Right now my stats are low ..i need to spend a bit of time and tweak them .. they were better.

NTSS 05-31-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
whats the most you have gotten per click, anyone?

$2.21 here

facialfreak 05-31-2005 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
whats the most you have gotten per click, anyone?

$7.20

:thumbsup

crockett 05-31-2005 07:46 PM

humm nice numbers

MikeVega 05-31-2005 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mvega325
I've been sending some of my cheapest 404 traffic to this page http://www.freevaluedeals.com/

and here is a chuck of my stats ..not bad extra for overflow traffic

Page impressions / Clicks Page /CTR / Page eCPM [?] /Your earnings

4,159.......................167........4.0%.....$2 2.53..............$93.72
8,461.......................536........6.3%.....$9 .89................$83.69
6,415.......................253........3.9%.....$2 0.56..............$131.92

Right now my stats are low ..i need to spend a bit of time and tweak them .. they were better.

My best is $22.53 as shown above ... :thumbsup

kernelpanic 05-31-2005 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak
$7.20

:thumbsup

Damn, what were the keywords for that?

NTSS 05-31-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mvega325
I've been sending some of my cheapest 404 traffic to this page http://www.freevaluedeals.com/

and here is a chuck of my stats ..not bad extra for overflow traffic

Page impressions / Clicks Page /CTR / Page eCPM [?] /Your earnings

4,159.......................167........4.0%.....$2 2.53..............$93.72
8,461.......................536........6.3%.....$9 .89................$83.69
6,415.......................253........3.9%.....$2 0.56..............$131.92

Right now my stats are low ..i need to spend a bit of time and tweak them .. they were better.

Is that mainstream 404 or adult 404? Just wondering cause I have a ton of adult 404 traffic but can't seem to convert it on anything I've tried so far.

MikeVega 05-31-2005 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTSS
Is that mainstream 404 or adult 404? Just wondering cause I have a ton of adult 404 traffic but can't seem to convert it on anything I've tried so far.

it's a combo ... about 70% traffic from non adult but the adult does ok with anti-spyware keywords .... it's always hard to get a guy who wants to jerk off to follow mainstream links ... :1orglaugh


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