Adult Bouncer Finally Gets Rid of DRM! - GoFuckYourself.com

My GTZ · 05-30-2005, 04:00 PM

Well, now maybe we can get some sales and keep the members retaining longer!

mrthumbs · 05-30-2005, 04:00 PM

DRM sucks

GatorB · 05-30-2005, 04:01 PM

Yeah keep re-inforcing the idea to surfers that everything on the net should be free or practically free!

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs

DRM sucks

amen to that

Shap · 05-30-2005, 04:02 PM

Why does DRM suck? It seems to me that if done right DRM rocks.

fireorange · 05-30-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yeah keep re-inforcing the idea to surfers that everything on the net should be free or practically free!

Yep

My GTZ · 05-30-2005, 04:10 PM

How is not using DRM giving things away for free? You still have to pay for a membership.

After Shock Media · 05-30-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by My GTZ

How is not using DRM giving things away for free? You still have to pay for a membership.

And then members can give away the stuff they downloaded.

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

Why does DRM suck? It seems to me that if done right DRM rocks.

It only rocks if you're the webmaster, and its making you lots of money. To everyone else, it sucks, and is bound to piss off a lot of users who either don't like it, or are too stupid to get a compatible player.

GatorB · 05-30-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic

It only rocks if you're the webmaster, and its making you lots of money. To everyone else, it sucks, and is bound to piss off a lot of users who either don't like it, or are too stupid to get a compatible player.

Well I'm pissed that I don't get to eat at McDonald's for free everyday. I'm never going there again. now that they don't have my business any day now they start giving food out for free.

GatorB · 05-30-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by My GTZ

How is not using DRM giving things away for free? You still have to pay for a membership.

Ok if I go to a porn shop or even online anI buy and actual porn DVD it might cost me $20. for the same price I get one month membership to a paysite and download hundreds of not 1000's of DVDs worth of content. You don't see a problem with that?

darnit · 05-30-2005, 04:28 PM

DRM is a great idea in concept unfortunatly the implementaions often deployed make it a huge pain in the ass for surfers. I speak in terms of membership sites (not ppv or vod)

It seems like more and more early adopters of the technology are now setting it aside.

GatorB · 05-30-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by darnit

DRM is a great idea in concept unfortunatly the implementaions often deployed make it a huge pain in the ass for surfers. I speak in terms of membership sites (not ppv or vod).

Well that I can agree. Some sites ask you for your memebrship info for EVERY fricken video you want to see. Once you've given the info ONCE in a session they should not have to ask for it again and again. I can see why that would piss off a surfer.

Fact is once you are not a memebr of of a site why should you have access ot the content still? Do you go to a video store and rent a DVD or rent a movie on PPV( I'm talking non porn ) with the expectation of keeping it forever? No you ACCEPT the fact you are paying for a TEMPORARY viewing window. Why shouldn't pay site also have this same expectation?

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Well I'm pissed that I don't get to eat at McDonald's for free everyday. I'm never going there again. now that they don't have my business any day now they start giving food out for free.

Users hate it, thats a fact. As long as there are sites without DRM, those who are intelligent enough to know what it is will prefer those over sites with DRM.

If McDonalds charges $1.49 for 300 hamburgers while Wendys charges $1.49 per hamburger, where do you think people will want to eat?

The only way DRM will succeed if its ubiquitous and doesn't cause technical troubles/annoyances, which isn't going to happen.

My GTZ · 05-30-2005, 04:36 PM

People don't download movies and give them to other people any more. People dont' have time for that stuff. They all download for themselves and start their own collection. They will remain members when they can keep getting more movies. Plus, you rarely watch a porn movie a second time and I can't recall the last time I watched one from start to finish.

People are too time starved, they just want quick, fast, easy and good porn!

tony286 · 05-30-2005, 04:39 PM

I think the tone has been set and to change it , it would have to be everyone doing it .

Martin · 05-30-2005, 04:41 PM

I don't understand DRM lets them watch the videos they've DL'ed as long as they're members right? So who fucking cares after they're no longer members if they can't watch the vids or not. Fack em?

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin

I don't understand DRM lets them watch the videos they've DL'ed as long as they're members right? So who fucking cares after they're no longer members if they can't watch the vids or not. Fack em?

Yeah, but that "fuck the members" ideology is what causes the poor retention the threadstarter is referring to. As long as people can get non-DRMed videos somewhere, the video download sites using DRM will suffer.

fireorange · 05-30-2005, 04:47 PM

It stops them putting the videos on KaZaA and P2P networks

My GTZ · 05-30-2005, 04:53 PM

fireorange, people don't do that anymore, there is no point to it at all. Why share your movies with tons of other people when you don't get anything in return. The movies found on Kazaa and other p2p networks are all shitty and most of the times not even the files you think you are trying to download.

darnit · 05-30-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

It stops them putting the videos on KaZaA and P2P networks

True however many wm's put short watermarked clips INTENTONALY on p2p to generate traffic/sales - it can cut both ways.

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

It stops them putting the videos on KaZaA and P2P networks

But do you think the people who browse kazaa for porn, many of them underage, would buy paysite memberships in the first place?

My GTZ · 05-30-2005, 06:49 PM

I agree exactly

fireorange · 05-31-2005, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by My GTZ

fireorange, people don't do that anymore, there is no point to it at all. Why share your movies with tons of other people when you don't get anything in return. The movies found on Kazaa and other p2p networks are all shitty and most of the times not even the files you think you are trying to download.

All it takes is one user to leak it, via a hacked password or his own. Do a search for "bangbus" or whatever and you'll see the number of results.

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Originally Posted by darnit

True however many wm's put short watermarked clips INTENTONALY on p2p to generate traffic/sales - it can cut both ways.

Ssssh, keep it quiet

bigdog · 05-31-2005, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

It stops them putting the videos on KaZaA and P2P networks

exactly if you ever take a look at some peer to peer networks like bearshare you can download a load of full videos from many popular internet sites

bigdog · 05-31-2005, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic

But do you think the people who browse kazaa for porn, many of them underage, would buy paysite memberships in the first place?

those 16 year olds eventually become 18 and they already have learned where to get their free high quality porn

Terenzo · 05-31-2005, 04:25 AM

drm is as good as bad, we have different types of sites and all of them make as mad money.

Rui · 05-31-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs

DRM sucks

wrong DRM is great

05-30-2005, 04:00 PM	#1
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	Adult Bouncer Finally Gets Rid of DRM! Well, now maybe we can get some sales and keep the members retaining longer!

05-30-2005, 04:41 PM	#17
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I don't understand DRM lets them watch the videos they've DL'ed as long as they're members right? So who fucking cares after they're no longer members if they can't watch the vids or not. Fack em? __________________

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05-30-2005, 04:00 PM	#2
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	DRM sucks

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	Yeah keep re-inforcing the idea to surfers that everything on the net should be free or practically free!

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Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Why does DRM suck? It seems to me that if done right DRM rocks.

05-30-2005, 04:10 PM	#7
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	How is not using DRM giving things away for free? You still have to pay for a membership.

05-30-2005, 04:28 PM	#12
darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	DRM is a great idea in concept unfortunatly the implementaions often deployed make it a huge pain in the ass for surfers. I speak in terms of membership sites (not ppv or vod) It seems like more and more early adopters of the technology are now setting it aside.

05-30-2005, 04:36 PM	#15
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	People don't download movies and give them to other people any more. People dont' have time for that stuff. They all download for themselves and start their own collection. They will remain members when they can keep getting more movies. Plus, you rarely watch a porn movie a second time and I can't recall the last time I watched one from start to finish. People are too time starved, they just want quick, fast, easy and good porn!

05-30-2005, 04:39 PM	#16
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I think the tone has been set and to change it , it would have to be everyone doing it .

05-30-2005, 04:47 PM	#19
fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	It stops them putting the videos on KaZaA and P2P networks

05-30-2005, 04:53 PM	#20
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	fireorange, people don't do that anymore, there is no point to it at all. Why share your movies with tons of other people when you don't get anything in return. The movies found on Kazaa and other p2p networks are all shitty and most of the times not even the files you think you are trying to download.

05-30-2005, 06:49 PM	#23
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	I agree exactly