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05-31-2005, 09:46 AM

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I don't know much about Chile, I just find it hard to believe that there is no violence and cops don't accept bribe

As far as the economy, can't really tell.

Its the same as in the US, if a cop pulls you over for speeding and you try to offer him a bribe of $20 he'll laugh at you!

Same as in Chile, why?

Because their jobs are so good they would be a fool to risk losing them for accepting a bribe.

In Argentina it doesnt work like this!

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#102

05-31-2005, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by nikad

In any case, south american economies are never stable so, if you invest do it in the short term, if you need a bank, get a Us bank account, that is the way to go and you won't have problems.

Looks like nowadays is very hard (for a foreigner) to get an US bank account because of the Patriot Act.

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05-31-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by bu((aneer

Its the same as in the US, if a cop pulls you over for speeding and you try to offer him a bribe of $20 he'll laugh at you!

Same as in Chile, why?

Because their jobs are so good they would be a fool to risk losing them for accepting a bribe.

In Argentina it doesnt work like this!

Entiendes?

Si, comprendo.

I didn't know about this at all, guess I will have to research more about Chile then.

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#104

05-31-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Gunni

No, when I was there they were actuallu on some list that said they were the 8th least corrupt country in the world, above places like Germany

actually their number 20 now
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

Still above Spain, France, Japan and other big countries
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05-31-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by bu((aneer

And I visited over 40 countries on 6 continents... whats your point?

My point is that I have done enough travelling to know what is and is not a 3rd world country. Argentina isn't perfect, but it's not a 3rd world country.

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05-31-2005, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by (Gk)

Looks like nowadays is very hard (for a foreigner) to get an US bank account because of the Patriot Act.

Then it is always safer to just use a debit card and get money out of any atm from your curent bank account, you can get one here, but just don't put too many eggs there

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05-31-2005, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by nikad

I am not really into soccer, so I cannot confirm, btw that is why you were asking about Fuerte Apache? Tevez lived there
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I have family living in BS AS, my cousin was kidnapped and taken to fuerte apache, they took his money, watch, creditcards, gave him a beating, then let him go!
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05-31-2005, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by bu((aneer

Its the same as in the US, if a cop pulls you over for speeding and you try to offer him a bribe of $20 he'll laugh at you!

Same as in Chile, why?

Because their jobs are so good they would be a fool to risk losing them for accepting a bribe.

In Argentina it doesnt work like this!

Entiendes?

He is right and that is why I think policemen should make enough money jsut so they don't get corrupted. Probably they get better salaries in Chile. Think that having free public insurance here, free university, etc etc it is expensive for the government so they try to administer the best they can, which can result in low salaries for public employees , etc.

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05-31-2005, 09:53 AM

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http://www.apartmentsrental.com.ar/
http://www.tucasargentina.com/
http://www.buenosairesrentals.com.ar/apartments.html

with a bit more time I can find out who has broadband, etc, yet I am sure most of them do if ya need anything hit me up on icq 124 68 229

Hey thanks for those sites. I might need a rental for 2-3 weeks this summer
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05-31-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by BRISK

My point is that I have done enough travelling to know what is and is not a 3rd world country. Argentina isn't perfect, but it's not a 3rd world country.

Back during WW2 Argentina offered a better standard of living then Australia and Canada! However nowadays outside of BS AS there is little infrastructure!
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05-31-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by BRISK

My point is that I have done enough travelling to know what is and is not a 3rd world country. Argentina isn't perfect, but it's not a 3rd world country.

What I have heard form people coming form europe and the US is that they are surprised of how well we live, etc, I guess they expect to find indians smoking pot, LOL

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05-31-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by azguy

Hey thanks for those sites. I might need a rental for 2-3 weeks this summer

yw, if ya need a local contact hit me up on icq 124 68 229

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05-31-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by bu((aneer

Back during WW2 Argentina offered a better standard of living then Australia and Canada! However nowadays outside of BS AS there is little infrastructure!

It is true, Argentina was # 6 country of the world, to make history short: That was during Peron government, instead of investing in technology and education he gave things for free with Evita, to the poor people: houses, clothes, etc, so they emptied the reserves of the country. He did good things and bad things, but he had a unique opportunity he wasted.

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#114

05-31-2005, 10:00 AM

Is that fat fucker Maradona still waddling around?
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05-31-2005, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by bu((aneer

I have family living in BS AS, my cousin was kidnapped and taken to fuerte apache, they took his money, watch, creditcards, gave him a beating, then let him go!

Man that is very sad, fortunately they didn't kill him, not even the police would go into Fuerte Apache!

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#116

05-31-2005, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by nikad

I thought Tevez was playing in Europe?

He is playing here in a team called Corinthians. People like him for sure, very good player.
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#117

05-31-2005, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Lee

Is that fat fucker Maradona still waddling around?

Hahaha I guess so, he seems to be doing pretty well now, drug free, lost a lot of weight, and is going to work for some soccer team.

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#118

05-31-2005, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by nikad

What I have heard form people coming form europe and the US is that they are surprised of how well we live, etc, I guess they expect to find indians smoking pot, LOL

Sad but true...

Inumerous people in US think that from Mexico below theres only one big Amazon jungle. Millions of people having to survive in the jungle without electricity dealing with giant anacondas and running from cannibal indians!

Sounds stupid? I heard it all.. believe me!

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05-31-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by (Gk)

Sad but true...

Inumerous people in US think that from Mexico below theres only one big Amazon jungle. Millions of people having to survive in the jungle without electricity dealing with giant anacondas and running from cannibal indians!

Sounds stupid? I heard it all.. believe me!

Heheh I know it is like that, I have always been interested in ethnic and different cultures, etc also at school you have to study all countries in the world, so you have a general idea of everything, The most approximate idea I heard was that Argentina is a Brazilian city

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05-31-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by nikad

yw, if ya need a local contact hit me up on icq 124 68 229

Thanks Is Palermo a good neighborhood? Which areas are the good ones?

http://www.bytargentina.com/re/propv...lose=&view=505

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05-31-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by azguy

Thanks Is Palermo a good neighborhood? Which areas are the good ones?

http://www.bytargentina.com/re/propv...lose=&view=505

Nice unit

Palermo is very nice, Palermo Soho/Hollywood/Viejo is one of the top places if you like restaurants, pubs, bars and trendy stores Lots of young people there too and safe place definately.

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05-31-2005, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by nikad

Heheh I know it is like that, I have always been interested in ethnic and different cultures, etc also at school you have to study all countries in the world, so you have a general idea of everything, The most approximate idea I heard was that Argentina is a Brazilian city

Here is the same, they teach world history at school. But again, I also have a thing for different cultures. So far my greatest culture shock was visting Turkey, amazing country with heavy loads of culture!

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05-31-2005, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by (Gk)

Here is the same, they teach world history at school. But again, I also have a thing for different cultures. So far my greatest culture shock was visting Turkey, amazing country with heavy loads of culture!

I bet it is amazing, I have travelled very little - to San Francisco, US once - but I read a lot about other cultures and stuff. I would love to visit Morocco, China, Japan, Russia, Mexico, Italy, wow, so many palces that it would be hard to choose

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#124

05-31-2005, 08:07 PM

NIKAD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

I spent all day exploring Argentina information sites It was a part of our plan, but now my gf wants to move there.. YESTERDAY.

http://www.tucasargentina.com/deptos...&area=Palermo#
http://www.tucasargentina.com/deptos...&area=Recoleta

Thanks man I might bother you a little with quick questions at some point ;)
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05-31-2005, 08:39 PM

bu((aneer why do you insist so much in making argentina look bad? Argentina is not a 3rd world country by any means.. According to the CIA fackbook site.. Argentina has a per capita GDP of 12,400 (as of 2004 its like 8% better today) making it the higest south of the border, also the UN said its developed in all the other areas in fact Argentinian economy is the 24th largest in the world.. just above the neatherlands(http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2001rank.html 2001 figures when they where really down it grew almost 20% now)

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