If you say so, I find it hard to believe.

Thats what I meant, the "villas", but some of the people have direct tv! :thumbsup

My 2 cents, there is violence, but you can go out at night anywhere and won't have a problem, at 3 am, 4 am, etc. All countries have diff kinds of violence, maybe in south america it is a bit more rough or explicit in the methods, in other countries, like in the UK or US it is different, but equally worrying - a kid shooting his mates inthe classroom, kids raping kids, etc -

It is also a matter of ignorance, go to any " villa " and people won't have running water but they have a huge TV, the most expensive snickers, etc, I guess sometimes it is a questions of choices, not in all cases though.

Why do you find it hard to believe? Do you not agree that Chile has a stronger economy?

LOL soccer is so big, and both Pele and Maradona were so big that we have this huge rivality when it is about sports. Yet argentians love to go to Brazil on a vacation, etc. Maybe we could compare this to brothers issues, they fight like crazy but they love each other :)

listen to nikad, she's a smart girl, she agrees with me! :thumbsup

Chile's economy is more stable, but only because they let the US government do whatver they want with military bases and such.

What about Tevez? Didnt he go to Brazil? What did the Brazilian people think about him?

I thought Tevez was playing in Europe?

In any case, south american economies are never stable so, if you invest do it in the short term, if you need a bank, get a Us bank account, that is the way to go and you won't have problems.

True, violence is everywhere. In Rio for example you can get robbed at gun point at any time and everywhere, and I mean it.

But on the other hand you don't hear about teenagers killing their families and shooting school mates.

All the times I got robbed in Brazil was basically because of my own stupidness (and in bright daylight). Stuff like walk around with jewelry, etc. Usually I go to nightclubs about three times per week and I don't come home until 5 or 6 am, and I never had any problems at all.

I've visited over 30 countries on 4 continents

Could be, now I dont know, but when he left Boca, didnt he go to Brazil?

I believe he was playing in a Brazilian team, but I don't know much about soccer heh.

I don't know much about Chile, I just find it hard to believe that there is no violence and cops don't accept bribe :upsidedow

As far as the economy, can't really tell.

And I visited over 40 countries on 6 continents... whats your point?

Well I'm a gal!
 

I am not really into soccer, so I cannot confirm, btw that is why you were asking about Fuerte Apache? Tevez lived there :)
nik

No, when I was there they were actuallu on some list that said they were the 8th least corrupt country in the world, above places like Germany

Can anybody name countries with no vilolence? Even Sweden has violence, if you think that suicide is self violence! We have to be realistic, I bet there is vilonce in Chile as well, but I dunno how the media work there, I mean here you will see the good, the bad, everything on TV and newspapers, I don't know about Chile, but they have a long history of censorship.

Its the same as in the US, if a cop pulls you over for speeding and you try to offer him a bribe of $20 he'll laugh at you!

Same as in Chile, why?

Because their jobs are so good they would be a fool to risk losing them for accepting a bribe.

In Argentina it doesnt work like this!

Entiendes? :winkwink:

Looks like nowadays is very hard (for a foreigner) to get an US bank account because of the Patriot Act.

Si, comprendo.

I didn't know about this at all, guess I will have to research more about Chile then. :)

actually their number 20 now :)
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

Still above Spain, France, Japan and other big countries

My point is that I have done enough travelling to know what is and is not a 3rd world country. Argentina isn't perfect, but it's not a 3rd world country.

Then it is always safer to just use a debit card and get money out of any atm from your curent bank account, you can get one here, but just don't put too many eggs there :)

I have family living in BS AS, my cousin was kidnapped and taken to fuerte apache, they took his money, watch, creditcards, gave him a beating, then let him go! :(

He is right and that is why I think policemen should make enough money jsut so they don't get corrupted. Probably they get better salaries in Chile. Think that having free public insurance here, free university, etc etc it is expensive for the government so they try to administer the best they can, which can result in low salaries for public employees , etc.

Hey thanks for those sites. I might need a rental for 2-3 weeks this summer

Back during WW2 Argentina offered a better standard of living then Australia and Canada! However nowadays outside of BS AS there is little infrastructure! :2 cents:

What I have heard form people coming form europe and the US is that they are surprised of how well we live, etc, I guess they expect to find indians smoking pot, LOL

yw, if ya need a local contact hit me up on icq 124 68 229

It is true, Argentina was # 6 country of the world, to make history short: That was during Peron government, instead of investing in technology and education he gave things for free with Evita, to the poor people: houses, clothes, etc, so they emptied the reserves of the country. He did good things and bad things, but he had a unique opportunity he wasted.

Is that fat fucker Maradona still waddling around?

Man that is very sad, fortunately they didn't kill him, not even the police would go into Fuerte Apache!

He is playing here in a team called Corinthians. People like him for sure, very good player.

Hahaha I guess so, he seems to be doing pretty well now, drug free, lost a lot of weight, and is going to work for some soccer team.

Sad but true...

Inumerous people in US think that from Mexico below theres only one big Amazon jungle. Millions of people having to survive in the jungle without electricity dealing with giant anacondas and running from cannibal indians!

Sounds stupid? I heard it all.. believe me! :)

Heheh I know it is like that, I have always been interested in ethnic and different cultures, etc also at school you have to study all countries in the world, so you have a general idea of everything, The most approximate idea I heard was that Argentina is a Brazilian city :)

Thanks :) Is Palermo a good neighborhood? Which areas are the good ones?

http://www.bytargentina.com/re/propv...lose=&view=505

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