hell.. I must be very SLOW!! :-) Basically... if I get it right this time round, you are suggesting you knowingly submit to tgp's and then remove image linkage?

Sounds too smart ass for me... I prefer to do as I say and operate outside the US and ingore their laws.

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No offence to jojojo.. but if he can't explain the "explcit image" shit - he needs some more fundamental stuff sorted out first before bothering about SEO.

O.o are u joking.... u still don't get it??

I haven't submitted to tgps/mgps in years.....

ok let me explain this one more time really slow....

IF YOU SUBMIT TO MGPS AND TGPS YOU MUST FOLLOW THEIR RULES WHICH MEANS HAVING PICS OF EXPLICIT CONTENT (DUH THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A GALLERY)... IF YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE PICS YOU WILL BE BANNED (DUH)

If you make sites that are designed for SE's only... these sites aren't submitted to tgps and mgps therefore you are not bound by any rules... your site can be nothing but ads, text, whatever the hell you want to put on the page you can do without jeapordizing traffic.

please tell me you finally understand :|

Simple, if certain webmasters are only making say "$2000" per month then simply their not working hard enough.


Also there is a few places on the web where there is more than a whole bunch of generic information!

Seek and ye shall find, it's that simple :)

Hell.. I got an easier way!! Can I just buy ya a drink instead??? :drinkup

Not to be snobby... but this is exactly the reason that the US govt is enacting this. Not accusing anyone of anything but far too many people prefer to operate "outside the US, and ignore their laws".

This has led to the permutation of CRAP.

People with this philosophy need to wake up.... where are the top 10 Search Engines located? IN THE MOTHER FUCKING US. After 2257 is in full effect the SE's will be developing filters and blocks that stop access to adult from non-compliant sites. It won't matter if your shit is on the moon... Did anyone consider that?
:2 cents:

I agree... thats why its best to use no images at all in promotion... let them join a paysite and pay some $$ if they want content...

Always here to offer a helping hand....

Here's what Jojojo has been trying to say to all of you...but in my own words

Those of you who decide to continue to generate your traffic through tgp's and mgp's will need to ensure that all of your galleries are compliant with the new 2257 regs.

Not to mention that all of your galleries that you have submitted in the past, that are archived on tgp and mgp sites, will probably be illegal after June 23rd, as they will not comply to the new 2257 regs.

So, jojojo has a very good point. And here is where I think most of you are confused. He is NOT saying yoiu can make a SEO page, and leave explicit images on it, without complying to the new regs. He IS saying that with a SEO page, you don't need to include any sexually explicit images on it at all.

So, with the quickly approaching June 23rd deadline, I agree with jojojo. SEO certainly does look like a good route to go.

ooo, shame on you, you selling the seobook.com's book for a knockoff price?

I'll see your seobook and raise you one googlecash :)

:thumbsup

Yeah? My consulting fee is $200 per hour. "How to make money in adult after June 23rd" will be on sale when I wake up.
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Put it this way, anyone in their right mind would not use sexually explicit images on an seo page in the first place, I've never used sexually explicit images on any seo pages I've built, at the extreme maybe the odd nipple here and there, obviously some sites do display like mgp's and tgp's etc etc

Unique text based content has always been one of the outlining facts with regards to seo, many sites out there will rank high for certain keywords when they switch from a thumb based layout to text etc

Yes this is the whole point of why I posted... if you have any banners/images with explicit content you can take them done no problem - the main point IS that you can build sites with no explicit content and get ranked high... you don't need any content to make a boatload of $$ in SEO.

The US govt is something that manages the US badly. It is not a govt that has *any* rights on other nations else why don't we all observe the laws of Angola?

I never did comply with any laws of the US - simply because they were not the laws I live under. But... I did comply with the principle of 2257 as it was, since this was at least an effort to protect children.. tho the enforcement to back it up has been an utter disgrace and most likely, will continue that way.

Under no circumstances is any person from another country - and one who has no servers in US territory obliged to comply with laws like this. They are irrelevant and unenforceable elsewhere and sure, will be the subject of more than one case.

Sure... the moment this current bullshit starts messing with other nations, they are not going to sit quiet and adopt the "one nation under God" bullshit.

If you don't comprehend the concept that this is a hypocritical law that in no way enhances the protection of children, (which many would be in agreement with and actually comply), but a raving idiot piece of legislation out of a perverse govt which is now abusing ideas of child protection for their own bullshit religeous/political scenarios. I pity the children in the US who are abused - they ain't got a hope - just tell em God is looking after them.

On engines... of course there is more than a fair chance the US will propose censoring them as well - it's part of the warped makeup of the current Administration. However, the net will be here long after they have gone.

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Suppose I gotta look guilty and apologise now?? :-)

nope, not at all :) information wants to be free lol...

but glad I never bought that one, can't say the same for googlecash, I acutally bought that one...but these are some interesting reviews on the seobook LOL

http://www.web-advertising-info.com/seobook/

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This is a bullshit thread using 2257 fear to push SEO consulting.

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Since when is using fear based advertising "bullshit"?

Everyone uses this form of marketing so why is it all of sudden "bullshit"?

If someone chooses to stop submitting/dealing with hardcore/explicit content that is one less person to add to the problem isn't it? Sounds like I am helping everyone here... except people who already work the SE's themselves... so your response/attitude toward this makes sense.

Hey! I don't want people ICQ'ing me for free SEO!
WG

So should they email instead? :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :upsidedow :thumbsup

I sen't you an ICQ msg, but no reply.

:1orglaugh OK!.. Gotta admit something! I've never read the seobook or googlecash... but I was the biggest mug for all and every bit of software that was released relating to se promo :-)

Ya want a cupboard of se submission software going back ten years ?? :) It's gotta be worth antique value soon!

Everybody is putting the "2257" buzzword in EVERYTHING and it is distracting from the real issue at hand. It is not very often that I will judge somebody like this, but I think it is just unethical. We need to pay attention to the real matter at hand instead of profiteering from a bad situation.

It's like being one of those ambulence chaser lawyers...very slimey.

I am hardly worried about your competition.

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You are doing the same thing pushing OCcash saying how you are 2257 complient blah blah don't act all righteous...

2257 is a shitty reality... switching your focus to SEO style sites is definitely a solution that works.

Just listen to WG jojojo...

I'm hoping to earn a full dollar this week off engines - but I might have to persuade some friends to signup to reach that target :winkwink:

But.. least my earnings are tax free...

Wrong again. I never pushed OCCash off as "2257 compliant". We are in the same boat everyone else is. I made one post saying that we were aware of the issue, just so our webmasters knew that we were not sleeping on it:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472860

Get your facts right before you put words in my mouth.

Trying to make money off 2257 fear is like sucking the oxygen out of the room and standing there with a bag of air and charging people to breathe.

Come up with a new angle to hawk your SEO. :321GFY

:2 cents:

There are a lot of people in this business who are afraid of what is going to happen over the next few years with this issue...

lol you act as if I am using this 2257 to rip people off lol

2257 or not - learning SEO is something these people should do anyways and this new sketchy 2257 laws are just another reason to do it.

But the way you worded your thread seems to me a scare tactic to get people to buy your SEO tutorials/consultation. The use of 2257 and SEO have very little to do with each other, it just so happens to be a hot topic of conversation with the upcoming law going into effect in a few weeks. If you want to peddle your SEO, try doing it without scaring people into it. It will work much better in the long run.

WG

Well put! :) You going to San Diego?

Nah, going to Florida Internext for my next show. Have a great time in SD Jay.
WG

lol I don't need scare people. They are already scared. I'm bringing up an obvious fact - that those with SE pages don't need to conform to tgp/mgp rules and therefore dont need to use content.

Some people didn't even realize that this was the case. Now they know and now they know there is a way to learn :thumbsup

So why did you bring up 2257's then? You could have just said no content needed - SEO your site... etc. etc.

WG

Your arguement is wrong on so many levels and you just had 2 of the best SE guys in the biz tell you that. If you want to continue with your profiteering...fine.

:2 cents:

Because people are looking for other ways to make money from the internet now that 2257 is getting so sticky... and most people don't know that SE sites can easily become immune to 2257 laws by removing their content.

People are scared about 2257 --- this specific aspect of SE style sites applies to 2257.

I really don't give a shit what other SEO's think... I don't expect any support from my competition :1orglaugh

I've never got any love from other SEO's on this board but I have got lots of new clients... I don't expect anything to change... you and the other haters reply while people who don't reply are the ones hiring me on icq :thumbsup

Maybe if you repeat that enough times, even you'll start to believe it.

Yawn...I've been turning away SEO clients for months -- hell I'll send you the leads if you want them.

Me and WG are technicly competitors, but we still are friends (I like to think we are anyway - haha) so it ain't like that.

I just think what you are doing is wrong.

What is it that I'm doing? People are already worried about 2257.

I'm letting them know that you don't need content to make money from adult and that those worried about 2257 should get into SEO.

2257 is a big wake up call for a lot of people and they are looking for other ways to make money. I'm letting people know what the deal is with SEO and 2257 and how SE webmasters got it made in the shade as far as 2257 goes because we don't need content :D

You can forward those SEO leads to [email protected] :thumbsup

Yep, just as I figured.

I agree. Although people like Jay and Marc from Hoes are technically competitors, we bounce ideas off each other all the time to see what works and what doesn't. I don't see other SEO's as competition I'd like to get rid of but rather an ally to figuring out what the SE's have changed and whats working lately.

WG

lol I'm being sarcastic I don't expect you send me anything :1orglaugh

...damn jojojo, that was one misleading mofu of a title. why don't you stop spamming your SEO stuff already ??? :glugglug

well I've never got any kind of support from you in any of my threads over the years... or from any other seo guy for that matter. All I ever get is criticism... maybe its because I publically post my successful top ten rankings and that pisses of most other SEO guys...

Sheesh.. this thread keeps hitting to the top and just read the header...

"SEO style sites are immune from 2257 laws..." DUH??

Cummon jojojo! :-) OK.. I know ya want to sell shit, but that claim is a bit bold! :winkwink:

So it's OK for me to post your priority ID tag? :)

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No its not bold... it true... SEO style sites don't need content and/or can remove all content and thus are immune...

Any site that doesnt use images is immune.

When I had been "been doing SEO for last 2.5 years" (notice the .5 - haha) - I would have done some newbie shit like that. You have never even been on my radar until now and it isn't becasue of your SEO -- it's your shitty ethics that got you noticed.

Maybe you get so much "criticism" because you are easy not to like. You claim your are not profiteering off 2257, but look at the title of this thread.

I wonder how your "clients" must feel..that is...if you have any by the time this thread is over.

You don't need a priority ID tag when you use this backdoor url to submit - just type in any 23 characters and it will work :winkwink:
http://www.google.com/priority_id_su...rs/submit.html

lol how is posting examples of top ten rankings "newbie shit"??

It's because of those examples that I have got so many new clients.

I have never seen another self proclaimed seo guy post an example of a top ten result. Most seo guys are nothing but fancy lipservice.

I never said I wasn't profitting from 2257 laws :1orglaugh

I said don't make it out like I am ripping people off or acting unethically by providing people with the truth about seo and how if you work the se's only you don't even have to worry about the 2257 laws.

Sure ain't what the header says!! :-)

It does say that SEO sites are immune from USC 2257 - not that they are immune as long as you remove all images/content.

There could be one hell of a lot of use of browser back keys if the imagery ain't there! BUT.. often words speak louder! :-) Like in this instance....