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davidd 05-30-2005 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
First you are pleased and then you are not?

I was pleased they voted NO, simply to show their true nature.

For the long term success of the EU, a YES was needed.

The EU gets set back again. Europe, since the dawn of time, has never been able to shed their nationalistic pride... let alone not kill each other in war after war.

There are a few things that need to be agreed upon in Europe. I will make its new constitution:

(This applies to Old Europe - I love most of the members of the 'NEW' Europe)
1. We, Europe, suffers from a crushed ego. We have our history and our borders.

2. Anything that smells of free market, we hate.

3. If you can think it, we can tax it.

4. We will waste all our time telling the world how great we are instead of proving how great we are.

5. Competition? We will tax it.

6. The human spirit... we will tax it, then kill it

7. Rich? We will tax you, kill you, and then tax your heirs, and most likely kill them too.

8. War? Mandatory - every 50 years or less.

9. Hard worker? Move to a country that likes hard work. We want workers who strike, who bitch about competition, and do not want to work more than 30 hours a week.

10. Currency - We will devise new currencies every so often to inflate the economies of the weaker nations (Germany), and make it so the average worker can not exist.

New Europe - Same as the old Europe.

adultguus 05-30-2005 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
> Weet je dat Nederland (lees Den Haag) ca 480(!!) euro per
>inwoner afdraagt aan de EU als "contributie"?
> Weet je ook dat Frankrijk en Duitsland slechts ca 27 Euro
>betalen??
> En dat Belgie en Ierland ca 48 euro KRIJGEN??!!

Maar gast, weet je ook dat dit geen reet met de europese grondwet te maken heeft?

adultguus 05-30-2005 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Haha goeie grap bassie. Wat onzin.Jij(en wij) verdienen wat meer, en wij hebben geen huursubsidie nodig. Maar als mensen dus wel gesteund worden door NL woningcoorperaties, lopen het risico dat straks een projectontwikkelaar uit Duitsland zegt, hey maar dat mag niet...Dat is oneerlijke concurrentie. Nou mogen wij lekker zelf weten waar wij subsidie aan geven?

Als je denkt dat het zo werkt denk ik toch dat je nog steeds niet helemaal begrijpt waar je straks nee tegen gaat zeggen. Natuurlijk mag Nederland straks nog steeds bepalen waar subsidies heen gaan. Het hele sociale stelsel (waar dit mee te maken heeft) heeft nagenoeg niks met de europese grondwet te maken.

VIP 05-30-2005 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Haha goeie grap bassie. Wat onzin.Jij(en wij) verdienen wat meer, en wij hebben geen huursubsidie nodig. Maar als mensen dus wel gesteund worden door NL woningcoorperaties, lopen het risico dat straks een projectontwikkelaar uit Duitsland zegt, hey maar dat mag niet...Dat is oneerlijke concurrentie. Nou mogen wij lekker zelf weten waar wij subsidie aan geven?

Je praat over subsidie?! In een totale vrije markt economie (en als ik het goed begrijp ben je ondernemer) bestaan helemaal geen subsidies. Ontwikkeling van alle landen is goed voor de economie van Nederland omdat we naast goederen ook diensten en kennis kunnen exporteren
Het is zo dat je als projectontwikkelaar uit Nederland net zoveel kans maakt als je Duitse collega.

Bekijk het dan wel van twee kanten en zie wie het grootste voordeel heeft... Je doet net of Nederland het centrum van het universum is...

Kijk even in je stats en zie waar je omzet vandaan komt als het meer dan 20% NL is dan doe je iets fout of moet je zeker nee stemmen ;-)

Zonder subsidie hadden ze in veel landen waarschijnlijk niet eens Internet :1orglaugh

Tex Willer 05-30-2005 08:24 AM

it's all about oil

justsexxx 05-30-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by VIP
Kijk even in je stats en zie waar je omzet vandaan komt als het meer dan 20% NL is dan doe je iets fout of moet je zeker nee stemmen ;-)

Zonder subsidie hadden ze in veel landen waarschijnlijk niet eens Internet :1orglaugh


Er valt genoeg te verdienen op de NL markt hoor

justsexxx 05-30-2005 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus
Als je denkt dat het zo werkt denk ik toch dat je nog steeds niet helemaal begrijpt waar je straks nee tegen gaat zeggen. Natuurlijk mag Nederland straks nog steeds bepalen waar subsidies heen gaan. Het hele sociale stelsel (waar dit mee te maken heeft) heeft nagenoeg niks met de europese grondwet te maken.


Ga lekker naast balkenende zitten. Ja stemmers zijn slim, nee stemmers zijn dom, en volgens bot, kunnen die beter thuis blijven. Het heeft er nl WEL mee te maken. Als je eens wat anders leest dan de CDA pagina...Maar ja, ieder zijn ding, ik stem nee. punt.

justsexxx 05-30-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VIP
Je praat over subsidie?! In een totale vrije markt economie (en als ik het goed begrijp ben je ondernemer) bestaan helemaal geen subsidies. Ontwikkeling van alle landen is goed voor de economie van Nederland omdat we naast goederen ook diensten en kennis kunnen exporteren

Okee, ik ben juist trots op het feit dat er subsidies bestaan voor de sociaal zwakkeren. (uitzonderingen daar gelaten)

En over dat voorbeeld van de ZOO, okee, misschien niet helemaal eerlijk dat Artis wel subsidie krijgt, en de Londen Zoo niet. Maar als ik naar een ZOO wil ga ik niet helemaal naar Londen.

Pornopat 05-30-2005 09:42 AM

This is a good discussion we are having here.
I think its a sad thing though that Balkenende will probably still say yes even if the dutch people will say no....
"sorry hoor jongens...de opkomst was te laag"

justsexxx 05-30-2005 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornopat
This is a good discussion we are having here.
I think its a sad thing though that Balkenende will probably still say yes even if the dutch people will say no....
"sorry hoor jongens...de opkomst was te laag"

But VVD won't agree with that. So don't think it will happen. Besides that, the French voted no too. So happily enough we are not alone..

adultguus 05-30-2005 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Ga lekker naast balkenende zitten. Ja stemmers zijn slim, nee stemmers zijn dom, en volgens bot, kunnen die beter thuis blijven. Het heeft er nl WEL mee te maken. Als je eens wat anders leest dan de CDA pagina...Maar ja, ieder zijn ding, ik stem nee. punt.

Neem van mij aan dat ik deze mening niet gevormd heb door naar regeringsleiders te luisteren en op de CDA pagina zul je me al helemaal niet vinden. IK probeer je niet af te zeiken, maar je komt echt met totaal nutteloze argumenten aanzetten om je nee stem te verdedigen. Dat is alles wat ik zeg. Als je een nee stem hebt op argumenten die slaan op hetgeen waar je die nee stem aan geeft, dan heb ik daar respect voor.

En zelfs als dat punt wat jij zegt zou kloppen (wat zeker niet zo is, maar stel), dan nog weegt dat niet op tegen de voordelen van dit verdrag.

justsexxx 05-30-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus
En zelfs als dat punt wat jij zegt zou kloppen (wat zeker niet zo is, maar stel), dan nog weegt dat niet op tegen de voordelen van dit verdrag.

Wel dat over die zoo en huursubsidie klopt dus wel. Was bij BvD, en De SP vertelde dat(niet mijn partij ofzo hoor) Jan Mulder geloofde het niet, toen is er iemand van de PvdA(voorstander) gebeld, en die moest het toen toegeven, dat het eventueel ZOU kunnen zijn dat blabla...

Verder zie ik weinig voordelen, wat zonder vedrag ook niet geregeld kan worden. En dus stem ik nee. Dat is het mooie van een democratie. Je mag stemmen wat je wilt, en verschillende personen, hebben verschillende meningen. Anders viel er weinig te stemmen :D Jij bent voor, zelf ben ik nog tegen.

pradaboy 05-30-2005 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

44% :)

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
would you read the 320 pages of why you should vote yes or no? I'll send you the draft.

sure if you fedex it over :glugglug

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Originally Posted by adultguus
Maar gast, weet je ook dat dit geen reet met de europese grondwet te maken heeft?

and this is exactly why I will vote NO... the government isn't able to inform the people WHY they should agree with this treaty. I'm simply voting NO so the big honchos might reconsider their communication styles and actually NOT treat us as idiots who should be told what to do.

Adultlexicon 05-30-2005 10:06 AM

38% so thats a NO

pxxx 05-30-2005 10:15 AM

What did they vote no for?

flashfreak 05-30-2005 10:24 AM

pxxx: european constitution

David! 05-30-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pxxx
What did they vote no for?

To the European Constitution. It would be like Florida reject the US Constitution

adultguus 05-30-2005 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy
and this is exactly why I will vote NO... the government isn't able to inform the people WHY they should agree with this treaty. I'm simply voting NO so the big honchos might reconsider their communication styles and actually NOT treat us as idiots who should be told what to do.

So you want to vote NO to get back at the Dutch Government? You do realize that it's also your own future your voting for right? And let me tell you something, 60%+ Dutch people are big idiots who SHOULD be told what they have to do. That is also why it was a stupid idea to have a referendum about this issue. People simply don't know anything about this subject.

GatorB 05-30-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax
"Europe is like early America before we had a constitution."
that made me laugh lol

I guess you are retarded. I'm talking about the aspect of having many small land areas not being organized under one federal system of goverment. It created alot of headaches. In 1776 STATES meant COUNTRIES. So it was the United COUNTRIES of America so each "state" had it's own rules and like I just said made going from state to state and trading from state to state very onerous. it wasn'tuntil AFTER to formation of the US Constitution in 1789 that the US started to become what it is today. Good thing it only took us 13 years to learn this not over 1300.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-30-2005 10:45 AM

I like how all these new 'constitutions' look more like investor rights agreements and less like contracts governments have with their people. The biggest effect that open markets have is allowing domestic corporations move factories and capital to developing areas, exploiting the low cost labor (which also helps developing countries actually develop), then move to a poorer country when the workers in the first one actually start demanding crazy stuff like a living wage.

As for capital flight, it was specifically banned in the Bretton Woods agreement to prevent the creation of a 'virtual senate'. Top down tyranies that are not accountable to the public would now have a vote on government policy. Nixon later dismanteled this.

VIP 05-30-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy
and this is exactly why I will vote NO... the government isn't able to inform the people WHY they should agree with this treaty. I'm simply voting NO so the big honchos might reconsider their communication styles and actually NOT treat us as idiots who should be told what to do.

The same reason you won't claim your winning lottery ticket, because they did not communicate were to collect the price that well?
Is it still "them" and "their"? The politicians are politicians, if they had any marketing skills they would not run for office ;-).

Think as "us" and "we" and perhaps you will understand what it is all about...

Mr Eberhard, the former owner of Worldsex was elected in the House of Representatives in 2003 (not by me BTW, LOL). So anyone of "us" can be "them". :upsidedow

"They" are elected by "us" to represent "us", so actually "our" communication skills are poor...

But when "we" have a problem its "their" fault?! :Oh crap

davidd 05-30-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
Good thing it only took us 13 years to learn this not over 1300.

Best line I have read all day!!

I live in Europe and see the shit breaking apart at the seams. The EU constitution, Germany/France melting down with unemployment, hatred of the "new" Europe (the best part if you ask me), outcry over Turkey's entrance, etc etc

I am in Spain right now and the amount of different factions here is unbelievable, it amazes me this country is still together.

Without a unified government, unified language, unified working arrangements, this continent will go no where.... as it already is.

This will end, one way, as it always does in Europe... War. Maybe then they will realize that when you ask big government to hold your hand you are giving up your freedoms.

-dd

justsexxx 05-30-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
To the European Constitution. It would be like Florida reject the US Constitution

Haha talking about clueless.

davidd 05-30-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut
The biggest effect that open markets have is allowing domestic corporations move factories and capital to developing areas, exploiting the low cost labor (which also helps developing countries actually develop), then move to a poorer country when the workers in the first one actually start demanding crazy stuff like a living wage.

Cry me a river. This is exactly what free markets are for! Freedom to make the above decisions. If I was a French business owner being taxed at 90%, my employees did not want to work more than 30 hours a week (and protested in the streets over this), and the government dictated who I could hire, I would move to another coutnry also.

Governments SHOULD NOT be able to dictate how I run my affairs.

If it was not for companies going into the poor UNSKILLED labor markets, these countries would continue to be impoverished for another eon.

As each decade passes another shit hole is being pulled from the depths of poverty. The Caribbean was used for cheap labor, then it was Mexico, then it was South East Asia, then it was China, and now it is Africa. So as each place is 'exploited' (as you say) it is slowly bringing the quality of living up in each place.

-dd

wjxxx 05-30-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
I guess you are retarded. I'm talking about the aspect of having many small land areas not being organized under one federal system of goverment. It created alot of headaches. In 1776 STATES meant COUNTRIES. So it was the United COUNTRIES of America so each "state" had it's own rules and like I just said made going from state to state and trading from state to state very onerous. it wasn'tuntil AFTER to formation of the US Constitution in 1789 that the US started to become what it is today. Good thing it only took us 13 years to learn this not over 1300.

You are an idiot.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-30-2005 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by davidd
Cry me a river. This is exactly what free markets are for! Freedom to make the above decisions. If I was a French business owner being taxed at 90%, my employees did not want to work more than 30 hours a week (and protested in the streets over this), and the government dictated who I could hire, I would move to another coutnry also.

Governments SHOULD NOT be able to dictate how I run my affairs.

If it was not for companies going into the poor UNSKILLED labor markets, these countries would continue to be impoverished for another eon.

As each decade passes another shit hole is being pulled from the depths of poverty. The Caribbean was used for cheap labor, then it was Mexico, then it was South East Asia, then it was China, and now it is Africa. So as each place is 'exploited' (as you say) it is slowly bringing the quality of living up in each place.

-dd

HA HA What a load of shit. I'm sorry you missed the point I was trying to make. I think it was the word 'exploint', I think it got your panties in a knot.

GatorB 05-30-2005 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx
You are an idiot.

yeah right. Ok when europe is a 3 rate economy and continent in 20 years let's talk

nico-t 05-30-2005 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by davidd
This will end, one way, as it always does in Europe... War.

youre right, i wish we were as peace loving as americans....


.....youre fucking clueless.

pxxx 05-30-2005 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
To the European Constitution. It would be like Florida reject the US Constitution

Thanks for the clarification. I stay out of the EU affairs. :)

FrankHolland 05-30-2005 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy
and this is exactly why I will vote NO... the government isn't able to inform the people WHY they should agree with this treaty. I'm simply voting NO so the big honchos might reconsider their communication styles and actually NOT treat us as idiots who should be told what to do.

I agree that the dutch government doesn't have a great campaign for this EU constitution. BUT that's NO reason to vote no just because of that. There are tons of other sources to get your information from to see why it's a good thing to vote yes then just Barend & VanDorp and a suck ass folder about the constitution.

We are one of the 25 EUROPEAN countries, voting YES for the EUROPEAN constitution will take us a step forward. Voting NO will take us a BIG STEP backward.

nico-t 05-30-2005 11:32 AM

i said it in that other thread, now i ask it here:
Are the american media positive or negative about the french no vote?
Because its really weird that everyone over there is against the french and their vote and everyone from europe is with the french on this. Did bush unleashed the propaganda beast again? You all eat it up like monkeys getting a peanut handout, just like the two bush elections. Youll never learn.

justsexxx 05-30-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t
i said it in that other thread, now i ask it here:
Are the american media positive or negative about the french no vote?
Because its really weird that everyone over there is against the french and their vote and everyone from europe is with the french on this. Did bush unleashed the propaganda beast again? You all eat it up like monkeys getting a peanut handout, just like the two bush elections. Youll never learn.

Americans are negative about French anyway. A vote yes/no wouldn't matter.

pradaboy 05-30-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus
So you want to vote NO to get back at the Dutch Government? You do realize that it's also your own future your voting for right? And let me tell you something, 60%+ Dutch people are big idiots who SHOULD be told what they have to do. That is also why it was a stupid idea to have a referendum about this issue. People simply don't know anything about this subject.

No I want to vote NO to make it clear to them that they did a lousy job on presenting this treaty to the general public. If you think people should be told what to do I believe you would make a good dictator... but this is a democracy. They decided on this referendum and they should have had a solid plan to present everything, I have to give them kudos on the fact that they're letting us be a factor in this but they should have thought it over twice. I really resent the way you think about our society :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by VIP
The same reason you won't claim your winning lottery ticket, because they did not communicate were to collect the price that well?
Is it still "them" and "their"? The politicians are politicians, if they had any marketing skills they would not run for office ;-).

Think as "us" and "we" and perhaps you will understand what it is all about...

Mr Eberhard, the former owner of Worldsex was elected in the House of Representatives in 2003 (not by me BTW, LOL). So anyone of "us" can be "them". :upsidedow

"They" are elected by "us" to represent "us", so actually "our" communication skills are poor...

But when "we" have a problem its "their" fault?! :Oh crap

This treaty will not benefit us at all, that is one of the other major reasons why I am voting against it... all our money is and will continue to go to the poor countries while we don't have our own situation under control. Unbelievable and unexplainable IMO.

wjxxx 05-30-2005 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
yeah right. Ok when europe is a 3 rate economy and continent in 20 years let's talk

this "constitution" wouldn`t change anything

Dalai lama 05-30-2005 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
You voted NO, we will do the same on 1 june

We will. This hopefully will kill the whole law.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-30-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by davidd
Cry me a river. This is exactly what free markets are for! Freedom to make the above decisions. If I was a French business owner being taxed at 90%, my employees did not want to work more than 30 hours a week (and protested in the streets over this), and the government dictated who I could hire, I would move to another coutnry also.

Governments SHOULD NOT be able to dictate how I run my affairs.

If it was not for companies going into the poor UNSKILLED labor markets, these countries would continue to be impoverished for another eon.

As each decade passes another shit hole is being pulled from the depths of poverty. The Caribbean was used for cheap labor, then it was Mexico, then it was South East Asia, then it was China, and now it is Africa. So as each place is 'exploited' (as you say) it is slowly bringing the quality of living up in each place.

-dd


Actually I appologize for my last outburst. I guess it was your statement:

"Governments SHOULD NOT be able to dictate how I run my affairs"

that got my panties in a knot. I feel the everyone should get a choice in how their society is shaped and that when a set of rules are agreed on that the business community shouldn't feel they are not subject to them simply because they're greedy.

porntempel 05-30-2005 01:41 PM

To be honest, i think the new european constitution sounds better.
I'm pro europe & i'm behind the euro (even that i also admit that prices went way out of line....it's a fact!).
I really don't give a shit that the dutch people pay most of all europeans......like for example as Justsexxx pointed out... to fix Spanish roads.
Some are weaker & some are stronger....we are in this together & together we should make the best of it.

BUT...the basic of the european community (Germany, France, Netherlands...ect ect) haven't even figured their own shit out !
So why the hell did those eastern european countries joined & why the hell are we talking with Turkey ?
(Please don't take that personal eastern europe & Turkey.....just reread my words)

I never asked for that (i hate our goverment, but the previous ones which i liked better also worked on this.....so it's not an anti-goverment feeling for me at this moment)!

So finally after years of all this shit forced thrue my throath, i can speak out my mind !
I will vote NO wednesday (decided that already before the french vote...respect to them anyway).

Steve

sperbonzo 05-30-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rambler
Let me get this straight....You are against an open market system and for government(tax-payers) subsidized institutions(businesses)???


You DIDN'T realize that most of Europe is Socialist? :eek7 :eek7 :eek7

nico-t 05-30-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy
This treaty will not benefit us at all, that is one of the other major reasons why I am voting against it... all our money is and will continue to go to the poor countries while we don't have our own situation under control. Unbelievable and unexplainable IMO.

^^^ exactly.
Already we are the country in europe that pays off the most to other countries, although we're one of the smallest countries. Thats really divided great and fair... jesus christ. Id say fuck that constitution.

project_naughty 05-30-2005 04:56 PM

The problem with Europe is that it is full of Europeans.

We have French (cowards, have no morals, do anything for money, smell), Germans (start too many meaningless wars), Spanish (lazy, socialists, cowards), Swedish (willingly giving their country to Muslims) and Italians (always change sides when they are losing).
If things could be run by the best of British, Dutch and Danish then the EU might actually have a chance.
I would say that the better countries may as well form a state alongside the lines of NATO. I'd rather have closer ties with the US than with the majority of Europe.

reynold 05-30-2005 07:01 PM

wELL, i ADMIRE THEM FOR THAT bold decision as well.

porntempel 05-30-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
The problem with Europe is that it is full of Europeans.

We have French (cowards, have no morals, do anything for money, smell), Germans (start too many meaningless wars), Spanish (lazy, socialists, cowards), Swedish (willingly giving their country to Muslims) and Italians (always change sides when they are losing).
If things could be run by the best of British, Dutch and Danish then the EU might actually have a chance.
I would say that the better countries may as well form a state alongside the lines of NATO. I'd rather have closer ties with the US than with the majority of Europe.

I'm just wandering, as you speak of WE....where do you life ?

Steve

Paraskass 05-30-2005 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracula
the "Zoo example" is hilarious, no offence justsexxx but give another example....

French people are too scared of the new european markets in Central and South Eastern Europe. French people are afraid they could lose their jobs. German people also. The car manufacturing business is one of the many industries that have gone to CE Europe.
BUT, do not worry! In 15 years we will produce all european cars in China and in 100 years we'll move all to Africa. And after that, the end of the world will come. Simple as that.

woah, my hero....

2001 registration and only 53 posts.
:thumbsup

Paraskass 05-30-2005 08:59 PM

nobody in here should be taking shit from americans. They voted BUSH.

if that is not shooting yourself in the foot what is?

LOL

GatorB 05-30-2005 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by porntempel
I really don't give a shit that the dutch people pay most of all europeans......like for example as Justsexxx pointed out... to fix Spanish roads.

See you guys got to get over that shit. I can go from one side of Europe to the other before I could go from Seattle to Miami. You are or should be ONE people. Hell states like N Dakaota( who has a population of about 5 or 6 people ) get more federal money per person than big states like California. Is California or Texas or Florida going to break off rom the US because some states get "their" money? no.

porntempel 05-30-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
See you guys got to get over that shit. I can go from one side of Europe to the other before I could go from Seattle to Miami. You are or should be ONE people. Hell states like N Dakaota( who has a population of about 5 or 6 people ) get more federal money per person than big states like California. Is California or Texas or Florida going to break off rom the US because some states get "their" money? no.

I know my english sucks, please tell me wich part you missed ?

"I really don't give a shit that the dutch people pay most of all europeans......like for example as Justsexxx pointed out... to fix Spanish roads.
Some are weaker & some are stronger....we are in this together & together we should make the best of it."

Steve

darksoft 05-30-2005 11:18 PM

To sum it up: Europe is more fucked than the US but will never admit it due to pride. Not sure what there is to be proud of but hey, at least you can bash Bush like nobody's business... doesn't seem like there's much else you can agree on.

Be sure to put that on your resume...

justsexxx 05-31-2005 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
See you guys got to get over that shit. I can go from one side of Europe to the other before I could go from Seattle to Miami. You are or should be ONE people. Hell states like N Dakaota( who has a population of about 5 or 6 people ) get more federal money per person than big states like California. Is California or Texas or Florida going to break off rom the US because some states get "their" money? no.


Please don't get clueless in a serious topic. We are NOT LIKE USA. Okay. EUROPE IS NOT ONE COUNTRY. Please get it...Same when we would say USA/CANADA/MEXICO should merge. Become ONE country. That would be strange right?

SO look at the map, we are a CONTINENT, we are not one COUNTRY

justsexxx 05-31-2005 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by porntempel
I know my english sucks, please tell me wich part you missed ?

"I really don't give a shit that the dutch people pay most of all europeans......like for example as Justsexxx pointed out... to fix Spanish roads.

Not? We have enough traffic jams here. And then you like your money spend on some Spanish road? Okay...If you like that I live from your money, let me know, and I will give you my bank account :upsidedow

Odin88 05-31-2005 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoft
To sum it up: Europe is more fucked than the US but will never admit it due to pride. Not sure what there is to be proud of but hey, at least you can bash Bush like nobody's business... doesn't seem like there's much else you can agree on.

Be sure to put that on your resume...

Here is something Europe can be proud of, the USA. Where it not for Europe's sons and daughters the US would not exist.

I never understand why European peoples in other parts of the world (such as Australia, the United States, etc) are so quick to distance themselves from the great legacy of Europe and their own European blood, whilst Africans, Asians still feel deeply attached to their homelands regardless of where they now live.

Ultimately Europe is a great continent and it need not be sell itself out to become a superpower in order to prove that.


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