Let's do some math based on your idea:

You've got: $100k

You need: Five niche sites, affiliate program, promotional tools, hosting, etc.

Major costs: (all just guesses, feel free to rip them up)

-Building of the sites: Do it yourself? If not, say $5k.

-Creation of all promotional material (20 x hosted tgp galleries, banners, other shit for each site, as well as a bunch of 30-second tgp/main tour-friendly movie trailers from your best content) I'll guess $3k.

-License affiliate software: Just going to use CCBill crap? If not, say $5k.

-Shoot 50 exclusive niche scenes (10 scenes per site) and license another 300 DVD/home-shot scenes (60 scenes per site). Avg licensed bulk scene = $25 per scene. Avg semi-exclusive private shoot scene = $500/ea.? Never had one shot myself, no idea here. If these numbers work, you're at $7.5k for the licensed content and say $25k for the 50 exclusives.

-100mbps Hosting: Has to be Tier 1 I'd assume, say $35 per mbs, so $3.5k for the first month. Also assume you're going to be doing free hosted movie galleries, if not, you could reduce this figure.

Let's see where we are so far.

Sites - $5k
Promos - $3k
Backend Affiliate Software - $5k
Content - $32.5k
Hosting - $3.5k

TOTAL - $49k

So we're at nearly $50k, and there is no traffic yet for either the sites, or the affiliate program.

Questions:

1. What am I missing?

2. How many affiliates could $50k buy in terms of advertising on webmaster boards, etc. Never been involved in one myself, wouldn't even know where to start, but say GFY/Ynot/etc. Typical avenues.

Answer those two questions and you can then take the average affiliate signups per day figure (3?) and figure out gross rev.

you should take that jack and invest it in real estate in miami right now. thats what i would do. cash the register...

Escort biz said it was 50k for one site. She uses ccbill so has one expnse less. but she also does a 500% return a year according to the stats i saw.

you are missing contnet management software, security software, affilaite rep. and other stuff i have no clue on.

Says the adult webmaster with the stock oriented nick name.

:thumbsup

For content management software, how much do you need? 60 scenes per site could be done once, by hand, pretty easily I'd think.

For security it's just getting Strongbox up and running, isn't that good enough? No idea what it costs, but it can't be very expensive. Affiliate rep I have no idea on, what is that Slap?

On the 500% return, she's saying that she grosses $250k per year then? Is that before or after the affiliate split and other costs?

We need some aces to help this thread out for once, but aside from generic info, none of them will post their ninja secrets publically. We'll have to take it to ICQ.

After my last post I realise I need sleep. But hit me up tomorrow

icq 166708909.

I think that was gross number. It was just huge. She has 6 sites now i think at tushycash and does very well. Lots of guys have one paysite and just push it themselves. Quiet and Sleazy come to mind. Aviods the affiliate rep and all the hassles with that. Bang out a nice site. update frequently. pics on tuesday and vid on friday. Use the marcd thread as gospel on how to crossale, upsale, email etc. and away you go.

oops, missed the key to marcd's thread. You need volume to redcue the cost of production over many members. You can make less per sale but be healthier with more members in the long run to spread the cost of updates etc.

It's do-able without affiliates for sure, it just depends on your commitment to driving traffic via multiple sources at a high $$$ level. Quiet's site, SD, SouthernCharms, MattsModels, NetVideoGirls, etc.

I don't know what the limit or threshold is for members on these sites, but whatever it is it's nothing to sneeze at when you're grossing $25 per.

before I'd start more paysites I'd build huge amounts of traffic in the niche so I can live very well of my own traffic

I can not recommend anything else

as far as the 100 grand goes... I had the same question come to my mind a few days ago
I wanted to go with mainstream but then the question... where to go? where to find people selling their mainstream sites´.... and then I was lost
I am missing resources here
if anyone thinks he can help me here with urls and such please mail me. people who help me never regret having done so

oh... as far as investment goes... I put $40k on a certificate that I think is going to make me a lot of money in the next year (and secure either :))... you might want to look into that market as well...

1031 exchange ... no loop hole. not non taxable. tax defered you will pay the gain one day, or your heirs will.

only tax exemption on real estate sales is if you live in the property for 2years and then sell it within 3 years after you move... you don't pay on captiol gains up to 500K or some shit like that.

i just wanted to beat woj

He is slacking LOL.

I like slapass because he is hesistant to open a paysite, and IMO that's a good thing.
I also share the opinion that making a paysite is worth the effort only if it would be top notch.

Oh and I agree that saying 'spend $100k on a type in domain is not easy'. I've spent HOURS daily for a good few weeks trying to research domains and contacting owners and it's very hard to find people that would sell prime type in domains for a reasonable price.

EscortBiz starts with 25 scenes exclusive per site, plus non-exclusive content as filler. He (not she, I've met him :)) wants at least 3 months updates before he opens. My ex-partner and I shot a bunch of sites for him, including his first, badtushy.com.

$32.5k on Content. Man you got no clue what you are talking about.
Rather spend $30k on Promotion and only $5.5k on content non-exclusive content. Why waste so many money on content when it's only your first 5 sites. An affiliate program is for the long run, IF it turns out to be successful you can always invest in NEW reality/exclusive sites.

What you are missing? Promo tools, Affiliate program design, $750 visa fee, the 2257 management, text writers for tos/faqs, domains and a whole lot more. Take security software like StrongBox it's only $100 yet it adds up.

Ok enough for now.

umm for a high quality paysite 30k on content isn't even much
the opposite is the case
many of the big programs spend 60k on exclusive content before they open a new paysite

For that amount of money you can get a custom built mainstream content network with many supporting traffic feeds. Income streams = text ads, ebooks, mainstream product affiliate upsells, your own niche product upsells, etc. Put the power of outsourcing to MULTIPLY the purchasing value of your $100K or whatever budget you have. :2 cents:

Why waste 30k on content on your first 5 paysites if you have no have (as slapass said) no knowlegde of the business. For $5k or anything you can buy massive amounts of content/plugins your surfer likes aswell.

You mentioned big programs, he's a individual with $100k to invest :2 cents:

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Give the 100K to me

mind to post which successful plugin paysite(s) you run :)

We have already discussed that innovation is out. So you have to follow success. He (fuck, I thought for sure he was a she) gets extra content. A very good idea as that way you have no worries about updates and overexposure of everything right away.

I have been in the business for 3 years and I have only seen 2 members areas. Plugins or feeds seem confusing to me. I can't be the only person worried about hitting an upsale un announced and seeing more charges.

So far here is where we are -

TGP - I need a full automated textlink TGP. I will feed it with my 404 traffic. Which is about 10k a day. Add in SE traffic(small) and trades within my network.
I have design and domain. Script to rotate 1500(more?) FHG links on a daily baisis? Free - $500.
Trade script - I would prefer to skip this part. but would use a free one if I felt the need.

Stock market - 20k, no one is talking stocks. everyone suggest real estate etc. This is reason enough to buy. US market is also at a 7 year low on PE.

Leaves me with me with 79.5k to continue discussion.

I also need the script above anyone know of something that does that?

run.. i would run run run

Awesome thanks

:thumbsup

I just want to correct you.
I suggested the stock market hehe :winkwink:

I was not sure as "certificate" would probably be a debt instrument here. It can be both but is not common usage.

Any more ideas?

Do you really have $100k to invest or is this hypothetical question?

Disagree on content cost, no way you outfit five new sites with just $1k EACH in content cost. Even those overused shit scenes are more expensive than that. Hell, even ugly Euro girl content is more expensive.

Plus I'm using the original poster's example, not what I myself, or slapass, would do personally. For argument's sake, fine, say you go with all non-exclusive content at it costs you $3k per site. So $15k for content. You never answered the actual reason for the post, what advertising avenues do you pour the rest of the "promotional" budget into?

Very easy to criticize. Not so easy to offer actual solutions. You the "Ross Perot" of GFY? :winkwink:

As far as "Promo tools, Affiliate program design, $750 visa fee, the 2257 management, text writers for tos/faqs, domains and a whole lot more" I included each of them, or close enough, to get accurate.

Link your paysite network in your next post so we can see how it's done, thx.