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woj 05-26-2005 03:31 PM

50..........

Eagleman 05-26-2005 04:24 PM

good stuff lens, keep up

PlugRush Sascha 05-26-2005 04:27 PM

Good work on setting an example, Reality Cash.

josian 05-26-2005 04:28 PM

I dont get it, how can a webmaster be compliant if he or she didnt have the actual record for all the models hes using on the galleries???
Maybe your galleries are 100 compliant(realitycash), but the webmasters who use them will go to jail if they dont have the actual record for each of the models in their homes or office.

chri$tian 05-26-2005 04:31 PM

There is now way those FHG's are 100% compliant for your webmaster or even for your self.... You mean to tell me you have ALL the paperwork for all that content in your office? Not trying to piss in your breakfast but, 99.9% of all webmaster are NOT in comliance with the NEW laws.

josian 05-26-2005 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlasChris
There is now way those FHG's are 100% compliant for your webmaster or even for your self.... You mean to tell me you have ALL the paperwork for all that content in your office? Not trying to piss in your breakfast but, 99.9% of all webmaster are NOT in comliance with the NEW laws.


yep, and all the banners showed here in the forum, including the signatures, will need to have the records for each model.

DWB 05-26-2005 04:50 PM

Nice Lensman. Way to be on top of shit.

With that said, lets all gather together in prayer for an injunction.

sicone 05-26-2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlasChris
There is now way those FHG's are 100% compliant for your webmaster or even for your self.... You mean to tell me you have ALL the paperwork for all that content in your office? Not trying to piss in your breakfast but, 99.9% of all webmaster are NOT in comliance with the NEW laws.

That is exactly what I'm telling you. We have ALL the paperwork for ever every model, every shoot and all other content appearing on our site(s).

If you choose to do business half assed thats your choice, but here its 100% or not used at all. Ask some of our shooters that I get after on a daily basis when they dont send in all the materials needed.

As far as for webmasters who submit make and submit their own galleries... please re read the first post of the thread. We have the solutions for you and you will be taken care of.

Relax, the sky is only falling for those who are jokes in the business, those who keep sloppy records or no records at all.

chri$tian 05-26-2005 05:10 PM

More power to you if you were able to collect ALL ID's and ALL model releses from the 30+ content companies you bought content from.

:thumbsup But for most webmaster i'm sure that is not the case, and i'm sure every affiliate of yours doe'nt have these copies at there office/home.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone
That is exactly what I'm telling you. We have ALL the paperwork for ever every model, every shoot and all other content appearing on our site(s).

If you choose to do business half assed thats your choice, but here its 100% or not used at all. Ask some of our shooters that I get after on a daily basis when they dont send in all the materials needed.

As far as for webmasters who submit make and submit their own galleries... please re read the first post of the thread. We have the solutions for you and you will be taken care of.

Relax, the sky is only falling for those who are jokes in the business, those who keep sloppy records or no records at all.


Za Ha 05-26-2005 05:18 PM

If I crop your galleries for my site how can I protect myself from 2257?

hammer2001 05-26-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlasChris
More power to you if you were able to collect ALL ID's and ALL model releses from the 30+ content companies you bought content from.

:thumbsup But for most webmaster i'm sure that is not the case, and i'm sure every affiliate of yours doe'nt have these copies at there office/home.

True dat. But isn't it nice to see 9 outta 10 newbies in this thread replying ''wow way to go this is great'' ''always on top of da game"? :1orglaugh

Lensman 05-26-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josian
I dont get it, how can a webmaster be compliant if he or she didnt have the actual record for all the models hes using on the galleries???
Maybe your galleries are 100 compliant(realitycash), but the webmasters who use them will go to jail if they dont have the actual record for each of the models in their homes or office.

Maybe you should reread my announcement:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
2. Building galleries?

Adult.com will make sure you can be 2257 compliant before the new regulations are enforced. We will have three solutions to choose from. More on this soon.


Spunky 05-26-2005 05:40 PM

When I close off all submissions..It's good to know

Lensman 05-26-2005 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlasChris
More power to you if you were able to collect ALL ID's and ALL model releses from the 30+ content companies you bought content from.

:thumbsup But for most webmaster i'm sure that is not the case, and i'm sure every affiliate of yours doe'nt have these copies at there office/home.

The 2000+ galleries in RealityCash are ALL SHOT BY US! We have ALL THE RECORDS. They are all ready to go. RIGHT NOW!

Lensman 05-26-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Za Ha
If I crop your galleries for my site how can I protect myself from 2257?

Make sure to use softcore pics for your thumbs, then link to our FHGs.

If you want to build galleries, we will have 3 solutions to choose from, ALL will have your ass covered for 2257. More on this soon.

bdld 05-26-2005 05:57 PM

Reality Cash is the ONLY big sponsor to step up and keep affiliates informed and prepared.

sicone 05-26-2005 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
The 2000+ galleries in RealityCash are ALL SHOT BY US! We have ALL THE RECORDS. They are all ready to go. RIGHT NOW!

I guess it just sounds better coming from you

AtlasChris, Your right, i'd say there is a large % of webmasters who are not compliant even with the old laws. Kinda sad actually. For people promoting us, we have the answers for you, we will do everything on our end to help you be compliant (with our content), the rest is on you to do what needs to be done.

The Other Sweetie 05-26-2005 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalai lama
http://galleries.adult.com/reality/...=MzMyMzoxNToxMA
Links to http://www.adult.com/2257/2257.html

Lensman/Adult.com, you are missing the model releases on this page.

These are ok for the old law.With the exception of changing the wording for the text link and adding in our physical address, that gallery is compliant with the new laws as well.

The gallery was made by us, the content is ours, is published and hosted on our server. We have a online database that is fully compliant and accessible by the DOJ as well as hard copies for that (and all sets) here in the office available for inspection during business hours.

Can you please show me where its not compliant?

Uhh, well actually Dalai Lama's point caught my eye for a different reason. According to the new regs, each subdomain must have a 2257 statement. That gallery, which is on the galleries.adult.com subdomain, has the 2257 statement linked to the main adult.com domain. A 2257 statement link really should be on galleries.adult.com/2257 (or whatever you choose to name it), not www.adult.com.

:2 cents:

iwantchixx 05-26-2005 06:23 PM

See guys? It's NOT the end of the world!

Lensman 05-27-2005 12:24 AM

Each root subdomain must have the link to the 2257 statement, www.adult.com does, galleries.adult.com doesn't (but will tomorrow even though we don't have to for almost a month).

But sweetie, it doesn't say that the 2257 disclosure statment hase to be on the same subdomain, or even the domain, that it's linked from, as far as we can tell. Where do you see this?

The Other Sweetie 05-27-2005 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
Each root subdomain must have the link to the 2257 statement, www.adult.com does, galleries.adult.com doesn't (but will tomorrow even though we don't have to for almost a month).

But sweetie, it doesn't say that the 2257 disclosure statment hase to be on the same subdomain, or even the domain, that it's linked from, as far as we can tell. Where do you see this?

Far be it from me to tell you how to run your site. I'm sure you pay more for your attorney than I do mine; however, it does say that each 2257 statement must cover all applicable material on that particular level. Technically speaking, the contents of that specific gallery previously posted should have its 2257 linked to that level subdomain (in this case, galleries.adult.com) since that is where the sexually explicit material appears.

"...Each subdomain thus has its own homepage and each homepage must feature the statement.

For example, http://www.usdoj.gov is the full domain name of the Web site of the Department of Justice. http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal is the Web page of the Criminal Division, which is hosted by the Department's Web site. Under this rule, http://www.usdoj.gov would be required to have a statement and that statement would cover anything contained on http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal.

**However, http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov is a subdomain of the full domain http://www.usdoj.gov and would be required to have its own statement on that page, which would then cover any material on a Web page linked to it, such as http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/,..."

Lensman 05-30-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo
Content Maker keeps records. RealtyCash is now forced to keeps records. Do people linking to RealityCash also have to keep records? Thats too much, if so...

Only if you use a thumb or pic that should explicit sexual contact. Softcore pic is OK and no records need to be kept, a censored pic (with a black mark over the penetration) is not OK.

New Hope 05-30-2005 09:35 PM

Well i guess it's 2257 compliant other than the fact that you didnt use the exact wording the DOJ requires to be on the page that is linked to your statement and that your statement claims that you are exempt because you are not the primary producer :-/

How is this different from the way things used to be? Not shit talking, just trying to understand.

andrej_NDC 05-31-2005 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
Make sure to use softcore pics for your thumbs, then link to our FHGs.

I think the origin of the thumb is important, if its from a hardcore gallery, doesnt matter if its softcore or not.

jayeff 05-31-2005 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
I think the origin of the thumb is important, if its from a hardcore gallery, doesnt matter if its softcore or not.

That's a gray area my lawyer pointed up. Part of the DOJ's language appears to relate to the specific image you are showing (although even that leaves ambiguity as to whether a cropped-to-softcore image can be regarded as softcore) and part to the complete photo-session from which the image is taken (which actually makes more sense since their aim is to ensure that minors are not involved in making porn).

A potential problem arising from that interpretation, is that even if you attempt to play safe and insist on softcore images pointing at softcore-only photosets, content providers, let alone sponsors putting a few pics into a gallery, may split the output of shoots into several sets. You may believe you are linking to a softcore photoshoot, when in fact you are not.


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