LicensedContent.com - 2257 Announcement

[fetishpix]

LicensedContent.com Suspends Sales effective June 13, 2005

On the advice of our Attorney's this past two weeks we have suspended sales on http://www.licensedcontent.com

All outstanding orders will be filled and delivered as agreed upon.

I REFUSE to give out unedited copies of performers identifications to just anyone that registers on the site and buys a $5.00 image set. Being that we are based in the United States our legal counsel said there was nothing else we could do but pull down the site till we know if FSC gets an injunction.

We hope you all understand our position.

[After Shock Media]

So nutshell is, if we bought before or have outstanding orders US buyers that think they could be secondary producers are SOL.

What about the current regs that do state the time you must remain a record keeper?
Then since you have sold since after 1995, what about the retroactive portion of the law and the legal requirement to disclose such info if it is interpreted that way?

[Sly]

I think this is the first content provider to do this. Interesting. Good luck with your wait, though even with an injunction I don't think anybody will be buying content without 2257 compliant documents anymore. You may want to look into another business.

[fetishpix]

We will continue to shoot for our large clients and contracts that we have worked with for years. These accounts have received full documentation since 2001 and are totally compliant with our content. We are still reordered with them as holder of the records.

Our large clients like the fact that our sets will see less distribution and have had no problem with this announcement.

[Paul Markham]

I admire your stance David, giving out documents to anyone that could lead to a model getting stalked or worse is scary. Models safety is important for the industry, when models find out Internet sponsors are giving out IDs to everyone expect them to say NO more often.

We are checking to see who is buying, tough job but all we can do.

Not selling content for sponsors to give to affilaites anymore, just can't trust their checking systems as mich as our own.

The situation is that when the first model sues the sponsor distributing IDs without written consent the rest will be onto it in a flash.

[kernelpanic]

What about softcore?

[fetishpix]

Originally Posted by charly

I admire your stance David, giving out documents to anyone that could lead to a model getting stalked or worse is scary. Models safety is important for the industry, when models find out Internet sponsors are giving out IDs to everyone expect them to say NO more often.

We are checking to see who is buying, tough job but all we can do.

Not selling content for sponsors to give to affilaites anymore, just can't trust their checking systems as mich as our own.

The situation is that when the first model sues the sponsor distributing IDs without written consent the rest will be onto it in a flash.

Thank you Paul.

I will not risk the Talents safety over a few sales.

Most of our business is and always has been contract work.
LicensedContent.com generated a few sales, but not enough to risk the talents privacy and lives. We have models that have worked for us for years and the are terrified of their personal information being given away to anyone who basically ask for it form a primary or secondary producer.

We will shot for our contract jobs and offer them images that are fully compliant with less distribution. Not one client has had a problem with getting these images. I believe in the long run I will pick up a few new contracts from secondary producers that understand or position and are willing to pay for compliant images with less distribution.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

What about softcore?

We launched load of softcore sets and it seems they are not the most popular thing.

[fetishpix]

Originally Posted by charly

We launched load of softcore sets and it seems they are not the most popular thing.

Agreed - We looked at sorting out softcore sets, but webmaster seems to have very little interest in paying for quality softcore sets. Also would have slow down or production schedule to sort, retouch, number and batch these sets.

Attorneys said suspend sales and we took their legal advice.
BTW we got the same advice from all three of our Attorneys each with different specialties.

First Amendment Attorney
Intellectual Property Attorney
Corporation and Tax Attorney

First time these three have EVER agree 100% on one thing

First time these three have EVER agree 100% on one thing

[JulianSosa]

You are offering a 2257 solution but you are pulling your content site?
I am lost

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by fetishpix

Thank you Paul.

I will not risk the Talents safety over a few sales.

Most of our business is and always has been contract work.
LicensedContent.com generated a few sales, but not enough to risk the talents privacy and lives. We have models that have worked for us for years and the are terrified of their personal information being given away to anyone who basically ask for it form a primary or secondary producer.

We will shot for our contract jobs and offer them images that are fully compliant with less distribution. Not one client has had a problem with getting these images. I believe in the long run I will pick up a few new contracts from secondary producers that understand or position and are willing to pay for compliant images with less distribution.

Yes I agree with you, this line about models being fine about their IDs being given out is mainly BS from what I know of the business.

MODELS WILL BE TERRIFIED THAT SPONSORS ARE GIVING OUT IDs SO WIDELY AND WILL BE MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WHO THEY WORK FOR AND WHAT THEY SIGN.

And all this is so that a company can carry on giving out free porn on the Internet and take advantage of the situation.

[fetishpix]

Originally Posted by JulianSosa

You are offering a 2257 solution but you are pulling your content site?
I am lost

Yes on both.

My content is compliant to the regulation. I have a personal problem with giving out UNEDITED identifications on the talent to people I do not personally know. Not giving away ID's has nothing to do with software or compliance - it has to do with concerns for the talent.

[Paul Markham]

Everyone cast your mind back a couple of years and the horror there was at companies giving Acacia the personal details of webmasters. There was shock, outrage and disgust.

Now think if it were your information that had to be given out to every affialate who registered. Say a page on every sposors site listing the personal details of all the employees and affiliates. OK this is extreme but I'm sure you will get my drift.

The response of some is they have to give out IDs to survive, the response of others is they will never give out IDs to make money. Ours was that sponsors could not give out IDs, not 100% satisfactory but at least we can check on who is getting the info.

A applaud David for taking the high road.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Sad times.

You guys have awesome fucken content.

My doors are open to ya, if should ya need meh!

[selena]

Aren't you the same producer that I recently inquired about docs for sets I've purchased from Fetish Brokers in the last 1.5 years?

I'd been given docs before, but not 2257 compliant ones. And I was told I would have to pay to obtain complaint docs.

[NTSS]

This "secondary producer" shit is a bunch of bull!

[jayeff]

It will probably be impossible to tell who has sincere concerns about model safety and privacy, and who is using the issue to cover something entirely of self-interest.

The most "correct" attitude over the past couple of weeks has been to applaud these concerns, but a few people have pointed out that - possibly the majority and certainly a large number of - content providers/producers have been giving out this information for years. Does anyone know of any models who have been threatened or violated as a result?

A response to that question could reasonably be that we don't want to risk even one will be. But then why has it taken a legal requirement to provide satisfactory proof of identity and age, for public expressions of this concern to appear? More obviously, to comply with the law and keep the model safe, why not simply use a document - such as a passport - which does not include address details?

A few board warriors have claimed they could track someone down with just a name and birthdate. It can be done, but any who can do that, could have just as easily have used the information from an obfuscated driver license or social security card to the same end. And on that basis the vast majority of content sets ever sold put the models at risk. Always assuming the documents were genuine of course...

[Mr.Fiction]

Did you see the recent post from your top competitor, UnlicensedContent.com?

They said they will not be supplying 2257 documents, or any other documents for their content.

But it's really cheap and they have a lot of it!

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by selena

Aren't you the same producer that I recently inquired about docs for sets I've purchased from Fetish Brokers in the last 1.5 years?

I'd been given docs before, but not 2257 compliant ones. And I was told I would have to pay to obtain complaint docs.

I recall them being in threads saying they were 2257 compliant. When I icqed them I was told they hadn't decided if they were going to give out unblocked ids or not.

[selena]

Ltns, Sarah

I've checked my email, and it is Licensed Content who gave me the above mentioned information. That I would need to pay for complaint docs.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by selena

Ltns, Sarah

I've checked my email, and it is Licensed Content who gave me the above mentioned information. That I would need to pay for complaint docs.

Well that is an ouch if true.

[selena]

The amount wasn't much...only $5 per set. I've not purchased tons of content from them, so it isn't really the issue of the money. To me, it was kind of the principle of the matter.