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Old 05-25-2005, 10:40 AM   #1
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steamray affiliates....

should i go with 20% commission or pps...?

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Old 05-25-2005, 10:42 AM   #2
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sir bump a lot
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:43 AM   #3
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how much is the pps?
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:45 AM   #4
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how much is the pps?

50 to 130$
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Old 05-25-2005, 11:04 AM   #5
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everybody do the bumpty bump, everybody do the bumpty bump.
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Old 05-25-2005, 11:48 AM   #6
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btw if you bothered to spell the sponsor correctly you might be getting some help it's STREAMRAY

short generic answer PPS short term % long term .... go with %
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20% is where the real money is, but it takes time. PPS is quick and hard
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Of course quick and hard has its place ;) but i went for the big payoff and took the 20% on my account. I was not disappointed! Revshare makes my panties wet!
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:15 PM   #9
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20% is where the real money is, but it takes time. PPS is quick and hard

So, true...preach on
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:46 PM   #10
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20% is by far the best bet. There is more risk for us in the PPS model so we pay less. So ifyou want to make the most money possible go % but if ya need quick cash go PPS
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20% is by far the best bet. There is more risk for us in the PPS model so we pay less. So ifyou want to make the most money possible go % but if ya need quick cash go PPS


I agree.......... if you are in this business for the long run and have long term goals and reccuring income for the rest of your life.......... % is the only way to rock and roll !
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:53 PM   #12
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Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:55 PM   #13
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Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:57 PM   #14
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here is little something something

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I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:57 PM   #15
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i like the smiley face with the thread jack
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:57 PM   #16
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:00 PM   #18
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Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?
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Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?
what is the average time it will take you to lick my salty balls
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:02 PM   #20
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what is the average time it will take you to lick my salty balls
ahh right! I guess they dont trust you with that info hahaha
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Whats your average per member value? at 6 months and 1 year?
Thread jacking is not cool... mmmkay?
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ahh right! I guess they dont trust you with that info hahaha
they dont. ask anyone
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Go 30% with http://www.othercamcompany.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months
And that proves exactly our point thanks !

So when is 20% better than 30% when our average user spends almost double that ammount

$750 at 20% = 150 or 370 at 30% = 108

Go with the best forget the rest ! I would rather get 150 bucks than 108

but some people still think 30% is better than 20% NOT!

The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.
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Thread jacking is not cool... mmmkay?
Oh.. sorry! but it turned into a more interesting thread that may help you get more affiliates!

Do you know what the average per member value is? at 6 months and a year?
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The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.

True that! Bling Bling? Hells yes.
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i havent made a dime with them.. maybe one day
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True that! Bling Bling? Hells yes.
And thats why I love AdultFriendfinder.com cuzz it puts more money in more pockets than any other adult company on the internet today.
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And that proves exactly our point thanks !

So when is 20% better than 30% when our average user spends almost double that ammount

$750 at 20% = 150 or 370 at 30% = 108

Go with the best forget the rest ! I would rather get 150 bucks than 108

but some people still think 30% is better than 20% NOT!

The check you put in your pocket is the most important thing.
Cool ,thats all I wanted to know!

But.. is that at 6 months or what?

At $750 spend per member.. every single one of your affiliates that takes the $50 per signup (or even the $130) is a mug right? ;)
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Go 30% with http://www.camsuncovered.com average per member value is $370 over 6 months

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Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.
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Cool ,thats all I wanted to know!

But.. is that at 6 months or what?

At $750 spend per member.. every single one of your affiliates that takes the $50 per signup (or even the $130) is a mug right? ;)
some people like the short money
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Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.

hahaha Ohh my
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Oh is it a game? Let me guess how long it will take him....2 minutes.
they are on the big side, so maybe longer.... but on the other hand, there is no hair on them today
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go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.
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go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.

we do allow webmasters to have more than one account. so you can split your traffic and see which one does better for you. feel free to hit me up if you have questions and thank you for the nice words
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Thanks Slapass


We are now paying up to $130 per signup on our new sliding scale payouts !
This is a special promotion scale that will last for the next 2 pay periods.


1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS
11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS
41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS
71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS
201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS
401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS
601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS
701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS
801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS

We are exploding and we want everyone to give us a shot ! This should motivate everyone to put up some nice links to us !

We have launched a ton of new marketing tools in the last month, take advantage of this !

Streamray has been going through in the last 6 months the greatest growth of the company so far!
I want to thank everyone who supports us and sends us traffic, and who supports us on the boards.

Our conversions are up 20% in the last month, due to many new changes to our site and backend.
People are converting better today than they have ever done in the past !



Check out our latest release of 5100 FHG with 3 descripts, catagories and hand cut thumbs.

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there are webmasters making good coin right now on the PPS
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go PPS, Lars has said several times he loses money on the big PPS promotions. He does them to get clients. So you might as well take his $$$.

hmm, I see above that maybe that is not true. I would still go PPS. I know he is now with AFF and AFF kicks ass in everything they do so maybe I will eat this post some day. I just know I got some checks for over $100 with just one or 2 signups and that is sweet.
LOL.. how can he lose big money paying a maximum of $130 per signup when he has just said he makes $750 per signup!
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so lord aga,
i went to your site to see how i could make this coin with you and saw your 22 models that are online and wanted to sign up. everywhere that i click to sign up i came up with this
"Tag {email_req} not found in template loc/00002/html//free_signup.html."
is there any way that you could make me an account on your broken site so i can see it?
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LOL.. how can he lose big money paying a maximum of $130 per signup when he has just said he makes $750 per signup!

Seriously you should just doa co brand passthrough account with us. And then market that site. you wont have all teh hassles of building your own system and you will get paid fat cash!

Something Like this

http://livecams.cybererotica.com
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Damn! you broke it!

I`ll get you back for that! ;)
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Damn! you broke it!

I`ll get you back for that! ;)
that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now

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that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now


hahaah your too much sean.. what the fuck. hahhha
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Lars why don't you incorporate some of that geo magic on the cobrand ?
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that was funny. thats it. we are friends. i like you now

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Lars why don't you incorporate some of that geo magic on the cobrand ?
Hmm good point.. I never thought about it.. but its a goo idea
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