SEO - Check your google ranking without filters (err) - GoFuckYourself.com

galleryseek · 05-25-2005, 08:37 AM

Supposedly the following page allows you to check any given keywords with both a regular search, and an "unfiltered" search (taking off the sandbox effect and other penalties). I'm no SEO expert, but I found something interesting when I used it for my own personal keywords...

http://roberttaft.com/no_filter.htm

For KWs "Fitness Plans", "Workout Plans", "Online Personal Trainers", and a mess of other kw's, I'm within the top 2 positions on the unfiltered search (HealthyGo). However, I'm not even within the first 10 pages on those keywords on the normal search. My site has been up for nearly a year, which leads me to believe I really have been penalized or sandboxed, because I don't get SHIT from google, but for these same keywords and plenty of others I get on avg. about 70 uniques a day from yahoo (not much I know, but if only Google would stop being a bitch that would significantly increase)...

Any SEO experts know the validity of this tool?

Kevsh · 05-25-2005, 08:40 AM

Does your site have PR? Is it mostly indexed (properly)?
I find it hard to imagine you're in the infamous sandbox this long

galleryseek · 05-25-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Does your site have PR? Is it mostly indexed (properly)?
I find it hard to imagine you're in the infamous sandbox this long

Yes www.healthygo.com - check it. PR4 - I have 59 personally written articles all specifically geared towards various keywords, etc... and I don't get more than 1 hit a day from google. So if I'm not "sandboxed", then I can only believe I'm penalized. The only thing I can think that I did "wrong" was get too many reciprocal links too quickly, but some say that shouldn't hurt me.

Veterans Day · 05-25-2005, 08:44 AM

google is not nice to me, but yahoo dont fuck around, send me shitloads, multiplying daily

Mike Dutch · 05-25-2005, 08:48 AM

Gallery seek hit me up when you have a minute
Or send me an email mike at imco dot nl, have some questions

galleryseek · 05-25-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Dutch

Gallery seek hit me up when you have a minute
Or send me an email mike at imco dot nl, have some questions

ICQ Sent.

vas · 05-25-2005, 08:59 AM

probably uses that -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf (do that about 13-15 times) at the end of the query to overload the filters...

Terenzo · 05-25-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

Any SEO experts know the validity of this tool?

no one knows... but if you find your site in those results you are not banned. i agree with you that you have pushed the button too hard and your site appears over-optimised.

galleryseek · 05-25-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Terenzo

no one knows... but if you find your site in those results you are not banned. i agree with you that you have pushed the button too hard and your site appears over-optimised.

go figure... something i'd fucking end up doing.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-25-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vas

probably uses that -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf (do that about 13-15 times) at the end of the query to overload the filters...

The -asdf trick in January did this by negating unused words. The April 4th version here does it by adding ignored words out to 42 words total. The results shown usually are of a higher page count than the regular results indicating some filters have been disabled. If you found this site, you are already connected to the SEO world and should be able to draw your own conclusions as to the results

pxxx · 05-25-2005, 09:35 AM

Interesting url, some keywords i rank higher without filters. Interesting.

nap · 05-25-2005, 09:52 AM

I show up for tons of my phrases using the unfiltered results so i'm doing something right even though google only gives me about 40-50 hits per day. Yahoo on the other hand...

College Downtime · 05-25-2005, 09:53 AM

I seem to list better with yahoo wish more people would use it haha

chadglni · 05-25-2005, 09:56 AM

-ngsdngsd etc.

V_RocKs · 05-25-2005, 09:59 AM

Google is for shitheads now... Yahoo and the new MSN kickass!

swedguy · 05-25-2005, 10:07 AM

Nice! I really like what I see in the unfiltered results

vas · 05-25-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Google is for shitheads now... Yahoo and the new MSN kickass!

yahoo and msn are easier to get good results initially.. i think they have some sort of new site bonus.. but google is still king of traffic

Sosa · 05-25-2005, 10:15 AM

google = more traffic
yahoo/msn = easier to get listed and get good listings.

Theo · 05-25-2005, 11:00 AM

true sosa

seoguy · 05-25-2005, 11:51 AM

so... what if i'm nr.1 with a very good keyword (unfiltered) and not findable in the normal results... do you guys think i would get listed good in the normal results when i screw down the optimation a bit? or is a penalized site lost forever :-(

DateDoc · 05-25-2005, 11:57 AM

Interesting for a keyword on Yahoo I am #1 on Google I can't find myself yet unfiltered on Google I am #1 too.

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05-25-2005, 08:37 AM	#1
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	SEO - Check your google ranking without filters (err) Supposedly the following page allows you to check any given keywords with both a regular search, and an "unfiltered" search (taking off the sandbox effect and other penalties). I'm no SEO expert, but I found something interesting when I used it for my own personal keywords... http://roberttaft.com/no_filter.htm For KWs "Fitness Plans", "Workout Plans", "Online Personal Trainers", and a mess of other kw's, I'm within the top 2 positions on the unfiltered search (HealthyGo). However, I'm not even within the first 10 pages on those keywords on the normal search. My site has been up for nearly a year, which leads me to believe I really have been penalized or sandboxed, because I don't get SHIT from google, but for these same keywords and plenty of others I get on avg. about 70 uniques a day from yahoo (not much I know, but if only Google would stop being a bitch that would significantly increase)... Any SEO experts know the validity of this tool?

05-25-2005, 08:40 AM	#2
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Does your site have PR? Is it mostly indexed (properly)? I find it hard to imagine you're in the infamous sandbox this long

05-25-2005, 09:35 AM	#11
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	Interesting url, some keywords i rank higher without filters. Interesting.

05-25-2005, 09:52 AM	#12
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	I show up for tons of my phrases using the unfiltered results so i'm doing something right even though google only gives me about 40-50 hits per day. Yahoo on the other hand...

05-25-2005, 09:59 AM	#15
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Google is for shitheads now... Yahoo and the new MSN kickass!

05-25-2005, 10:07 AM	#16
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Nice! I really like what I see in the unfiltered results

05-25-2005, 10:15 AM	#18
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	google = more traffic yahoo/msn = easier to get listed and get good listings.

05-25-2005, 11:00 AM	#19
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05-25-2005, 11:51 AM	#20
seoguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 381	so... what if i'm nr.1 with a very good keyword (unfiltered) and not findable in the normal results... do you guys think i would get listed good in the normal results when i screw down the optimation a bit? or is a penalized site lost forever :-(

05-25-2005, 11:57 AM	#21
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	Interesting for a keyword on Yahoo I am #1 on Google I can't find myself yet unfiltered on Google I am #1 too. __________________