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Mortimer · 05-23-2005, 11:28 AM

I am about to get a brand new Mac, switching from PCs for the first time. I wanted people who are already on Mac to tell me what good softwares are available on this system for webmasters (ftp, telnet, ssh, text editor, etc.).
Obviously, I already know the softwares from Adobe and Apple, but I am looking for good publishers apart from those two.

Let me know which softwares you use, and how you like them. This will help me get the best tools without having to try dozens of sub-par softwares

Thanks for your help!

ronaldo · 05-23-2005, 11:31 AM

What's a Mac?

Rex · 05-23-2005, 11:35 AM

text editor...i think i used something call itext

check out www.panic.com for the good stuff

fischi · 05-23-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

I am about to get a brand new Mac, switching from PCs for the first time. I wanted people who are already on Mac to tell me what good softwares are available on this system for webmasters (ftp, telnet, ssh, text editor, etc.).

First advice, get at least 1GB of RAM in it.
SSH(and all the other unixlike commandline utilities) is built in.

For FTP there is transmit.
I mainly use a command line client (lftp via fink) or Dreamweavers built in 'Sync' function.

I use Vim as a text editor, but that is surely not an editor for everyone

A popular editor for Mac OS is BBEdit

Software listings for the Mac:
http://versiontracker.com/
http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Apps/
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/

Azlord · 05-23-2005, 11:40 AM

BBEdit

Transmit rules!

Donny · 05-23-2005, 11:42 AM

I like fetch WAY better than transmit. I have both on my Macs.

Azlord · 05-23-2005, 11:44 AM

Really?? What do you like better about Fetch? I stopped using it a while back, maybe I missed something?

Big Roi · 05-23-2005, 11:53 AM

MAC OS X *is* UNIX, so you get all those server tools built-in like SSH and telnet. S/w like Fetch for ftp and Dreamweaver for site management are mature.

I run a paysiste www.scifierotic.com and haven't found I am missing anything crucial, yet.

Macs display colors differently than PCs, so if you are doing image editing you need to know this. And of course every browser on the planet displays pages differently.

SWISH is PC only. Its the only thing I've wanted so far and couldn't get.

Yeah there are about a zillion more s/w products for PCs, but half of those are games. Pretty much everything you *need* is available for MAC, because that is what the smart people use.

MACs are faster and more reliable. Don't get viruses. Network better. Handle file managment windows better. Easier to back up. And...they make you cum 30% harder. -)

PCs are built on the concept of 'good enough.' And for 95% percent of the world, they are.

Mortimer · 05-23-2005, 12:06 PM

Ok, guess I should have thought that ssh and telnet were built into it since it's based on unix

I guess there even is an easy way to keep some "bookmarks" instead of always typing the network you want to connect to, right? I'll have to look into that.

I am not doing any design work, so color management is not a big problem for me, and for games, I am satisfied with World of Warcraft, which is on Mac anyways

I am mostly working on php stuff, so the 2 most important tools for me are the text editor and the ftp program. I see people mentioned BBEdit, and I saw that program on tucows, but it is 199$ and wasn't sure if it was worth buying it or if there was something better out there. But if it is the best program for the job, it is not a big expense anyway... Anyways, keep your suggestions coming, and if you know of a program that really helps you in your daily job and that I might not have thunk about, let me know as well;)

Thanks again!

XSV · 05-23-2005, 12:35 PM

You can still get a copy of BBedit Lite for free from the Barebones site even though they discontinued support for it. They also recommend another free text editor on this page:

http://www.barebones.com/products/bblite/index.shtml

fischi · 05-23-2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Ok, guess I should have thought that ssh and telnet were built into it since it's based on unix

I guess there even is an easy way to keep some "bookmarks" instead of always typing the network you want to connect to, right? I'll have to look into that.

I solved that by putting aliases in my .profile, like 'alias ssh_servername="ssh user@host"', so i have to type the password only. There are better ways to do that, i know.

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I am mostly working on php stuff

PHP is built in to, you just have to enable it in /private/etc/httpd/httpd.conf

betsy · 05-23-2005, 03:00 PM

i use the terminal window for my ftp and ssh needs cuz i'm 31337 like that! ;)

Rex · 05-23-2005, 03:15 PM

BBedit...that's what I used! Anyway I am saving for another mac...my old b&w just aint cutting it anymore

Mortimer · 05-23-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fischi

I solved that by putting aliases in my .profile, like 'alias ssh_servername="ssh user@host"', so i have to type the password only. There are better ways to do that, i know.

I guess there is a way to have a separate icon for each of your server with the use of actionscripts or something... this way you only click the icon and it opens up an ssh connection to the server of your choice and prompts you for your password... I'll have to look into actionscripts and what they can do for me

wimpy · 05-23-2005, 08:11 PM

quickeys is awesome.
Transmit
dreamweaver
Firefox has the google toolbar with PR
photoshop
word, excel

fireorange · 05-23-2005, 08:18 PM

I'd rather use a PC with FreeBSD & GNOME to use a desktop machine rather than touch a Mac.

Rich · 05-23-2005, 08:23 PM

I use a program called FTP thingy, simple and quick like I like it. For text I just use the build in textedit, but I don't do any programming. There's a VNC viewer for Mac to connect to remote windows servers. Azureus for file sharing.

Also Safari is the best browser I've ever used, hands down. Virtual PC is great if you need some programs that only come on Windows, but last time I checked it didn't come for Mac's with dual processors which is what I have.

I haven't needed any windows programs yet, personally. I thought it would be a pain in the ass but switching to Mac was the best thing I've ever done. I can't wait for the G5 powerbooks, I'm still on a PC laptop.

05-23-2005, 11:28 AM	#1
Mortimer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Where the hell am I now? Posts: 153	Question for Mac users I am about to get a brand new Mac, switching from PCs for the first time. I wanted people who are already on Mac to tell me what good softwares are available on this system for webmasters (ftp, telnet, ssh, text editor, etc.). Obviously, I already know the softwares from Adobe and Apple, but I am looking for good publishers apart from those two. Let me know which softwares you use, and how you like them. This will help me get the best tools without having to try dozens of sub-par softwares Thanks for your help! __________________ The wiseman owns little but knows much, while the fool knows little but owns much

05-23-2005, 11:35 AM	#3
Rex Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2,241	text editor...i think i used something call itext check out www.panic.com for the good stuff __________________ I don't own RexMag anymore.

05-23-2005, 11:53 AM	#8
Big Roi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: A few years in the future... Posts: 8	Are you 'good enough?' MAC OS X is UNIX, so you get all those server tools built-in like SSH and telnet. S/w like Fetch for ftp and Dreamweaver for site management are mature. I run a paysiste www.scifierotic.com and haven't found I am missing anything crucial, yet. Macs display colors differently than PCs, so if you are doing image editing you need to know this. And of course every browser on the planet displays pages differently. SWISH is PC only. Its the only thing I've wanted so far and couldn't get. Yeah there are about a zillion more s/w products for PCs, but half of those are games. Pretty much everything you need is available for MAC, because that is what the smart people use. MACs are faster and more reliable. Don't get viruses. Network better. Handle file managment windows better. Easier to back up. And...they make you cum 30% harder. -) PCs are built on the concept of 'good enough.' And for 95% percent of the world, they are. __________________ You have never seen girls like THIS before! The history of human genetic enhancement from 2006 to 2099. www.scifierotic.com

05-23-2005, 12:06 PM	#9
Mortimer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Where the hell am I now? Posts: 153	Ok, guess I should have thought that ssh and telnet were built into it since it's based on unix I guess there even is an easy way to keep some "bookmarks" instead of always typing the network you want to connect to, right? I'll have to look into that. I am not doing any design work, so color management is not a big problem for me, and for games, I am satisfied with World of Warcraft, which is on Mac anyways I am mostly working on php stuff, so the 2 most important tools for me are the text editor and the ftp program. I see people mentioned BBEdit, and I saw that program on tucows, but it is 199$ and wasn't sure if it was worth buying it or if there was something better out there. But if it is the best program for the job, it is not a big expense anyway... Anyways, keep your suggestions coming, and if you know of a program that really helps you in your daily job and that I might not have thunk about, let me know as well;) Thanks again! __________________ The wiseman owns little but knows much, while the fool knows little but owns much

05-23-2005, 12:35 PM	#10
XSV Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cybercave. Posts: 1,214	You can still get a copy of BBedit Lite for free from the Barebones site even though they discontinued support for it. They also recommend another free text editor on this page: http://www.barebones.com/products/bblite/index.shtml __________________ Managed - E3 QC 2 x 500 GB SSD's / 32 GB RAM / 100 Mbps On Gig Port + 10 TB CDN Traffic $299/mo NEW MANAGED 10 TB CDN SERVERS FROM $199 PER MONTH - 50% Off Trial Code: AMNOCDEAL DIY DEAL: Unmanaged Root Server Plans - 50% OFF For Life! • Windows + Linux • Coupon Code: SUMMERDED16

05-23-2005, 11:31 AM	#2
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	What's a Mac?

05-23-2005, 11:40 AM	#5
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	BBEdit Transmit rules!

05-23-2005, 11:42 AM	#6
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I like fetch WAY better than transmit. I have both on my Macs.

05-23-2005, 11:44 AM	#7
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	Really?? What do you like better about Fetch? I stopped using it a while back, maybe I missed something?

05-23-2005, 03:00 PM	#12
betsy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brooklyn, yo! Posts: 625	i use the terminal window for my ftp and ssh needs cuz i'm 31337 like that! ;) __________________ www.phoxglove.com YIM: phoxgloveent ICQ: 237171474 AIM: phoxglove

05-23-2005, 03:15 PM	#13
Rex Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2,241	BBedit...that's what I used! Anyway I am saving for another mac...my old b&w just aint cutting it anymore __________________ I don't own RexMag anymore.

05-23-2005, 08:11 PM	#15
wimpy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 607	quickeys is awesome. Transmit dreamweaver Firefox has the google toolbar with PR photoshop word, excel __________________ Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind." icq 8243657

05-23-2005, 08:18 PM	#16
fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	I'd rather use a PC with FreeBSD & GNOME to use a desktop machine rather than touch a Mac.

05-23-2005, 08:23 PM	#17
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I use a program called FTP thingy, simple and quick like I like it. For text I just use the build in textedit, but I don't do any programming. There's a VNC viewer for Mac to connect to remote windows servers. Azureus for file sharing. Also Safari is the best browser I've ever used, hands down. Virtual PC is great if you need some programs that only come on Windows, but last time I checked it didn't come for Mac's with dual processors which is what I have. I haven't needed any windows programs yet, personally. I thought it would be a pain in the ass but switching to Mac was the best thing I've ever done. I can't wait for the G5 powerbooks, I'm still on a PC laptop.