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NoCarrier 05-22-2005 08:37 PM

woj.. GOOOO FUCK YOURSELF. :banana :banana :banana

50 Canadian Dollars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest
It's not uncommon for newbies to be confused about something like this... On the other hand.. with over 6k posts you'd think he would have been smarter than that...

Yeah, well he signed up in December 2004. :winkwink:

NaughtyRob 05-22-2005 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
Just for the record

AaronM is good people, & i'd have no problem doing business with him. In fact i plan on it in the near future.

That may be your opinion. But "good people" don't fuck noobies out of thousands of dollars on a technicality.

Brujah 05-22-2005 08:38 PM

Aaron doesn't shoot goth content.

Aaron doesn't want you to use any of the content ? Did you get a refund ? If not, why not ?

CDSmith 05-22-2005 08:40 PM

Said it before, I'll say it again, this mess could have easily been avoided.

Even after mistakes were made it could have been fixed. All SoS had to do was pay Aaron the rest of the agreed-upon price, stop cocking off on the board about Aaron, and then ask Aaron if he wouldn't mind exchanging a bit of the content for some more "girl-next-door" type stuff.

SoS was not willing to bend at all, thus here he is with no license which means he can't even use the % of the CD that IS useable.

I tried. Lord knows how I tried. You make your bed, comes a time when you gotta lie in it.

Clicky_Bucks 05-22-2005 08:41 PM

Aaron is more concerned with being right then doing the right thing. He is an ego maniac online (probably because of depression from being overweight) so he fucks people over under the guise of being just within the letter of the law to do so.

Will it catch up to him? Who knows. I know lots of respected people who have told me privately they won't be doing any business with him after this debacle.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Aaron doesn't shoot goth content.

Aaron doesn't want you to use any of the content ? Did you get a refund ? If not, why not ?

i posted samples of what he sent me , and he contact my webhost and told them to take it down.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 08:43 PM

Sounds like he attempted to intimidate SOS as well.

Not coooooool.

pr0 05-22-2005 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ContentProducer
That may be your opinion. But "good people" don't fuck noobies out of thousands of dollars on a technicality.

Look i've raised questions to be answered as well, i'm not hangin off AaronM's jock.

I've bought content from him before & didn't have a problem...perfect transaction. I've met Aaron...nice guy.

I go on a case by case basis, & i'd be interested to hear the reason he still has the kids $.

sicone 05-22-2005 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
AaronM is in another thread owning Alien Q, which would explain why he is not in this thread.

I am going in to start making my pancake mix now :)


are the pancakes done yet?

sonofsam 05-22-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Even after mistakes were made it could have been fixed. All SoS had to do was pay Aaron the rest of the agreed-upon price, stop cocking off on the board about Aaron, and then ask Aaron if he wouldn't mind exchanging a bit of the content for some more "girl-next-door" type stuff.
SoS was not willing to bend at all, thus here he is with no license which means he can't even use the % of the CD that IS useable.

actually i tried to leave him alone, and then a couple weeks later he kept attacking me, so i icq'ed him "listen.. fighting isn't going to solve anything, i'll just pay you the remainder, and then we dont need to talk anymore"

and he responded with fuck you, and that hes not giving me shit, even if i pay the remainder.... (even though the agreement was to get the site up and getting sales before paying the remainder) and that if i asked about it again he would sue me for Libel and copywrite infringement.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Sounds like he attempted to intimidate SOS as well.

Not coooooool.

if i was a real asshole, i would post the last couple things aaron sent me on icq.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 08:48 PM

Go ahead and post em I could show ya how much a of a mother fucking sweet heart this deusch bag really is.

He already posted one of mine today...

I even got more.

He is a fucken retard, no reason to be afraid of this pussy...

CDSmith 05-22-2005 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
actually i tried to leave him alone, and then a couple weeks later he kept attacking me, so i icq'ed him "listen.. fighting isn't going to solve anything, i'll just pay you the remainder, and then we dont need to talk anymore"

and he responded with fuck you, and that hes not giving me shit, even if i pay the remainder.... (even though the agreement was to get the site up and getting sales before paying the remainder) and that if i asked about it again he would sue me for Libel and copywrite infringement.

Time to wait for Aaron to respond to this.

You did, however, do a fair bit of "cocking off" publicly on this board in regards to this issue. A fair bit.

Anyone that knows anything at all about Aaron knows that he is a no-shit business man, and he does not put up with that kind of crap from anyone, but especially anyone new to the game. He is kind of like the soup nazi of porn content. :D

AdultMovies.bz 05-22-2005 08:50 PM

Thats pretty fucked up, SOS should at least get licenses for the content he paid for, otherwise AaronM is plain stealing, no matter what his excuse is...

sonofsam 05-22-2005 08:52 PM

i didn't do 10% of the mouthing off aaron did, i never ONCE resorted to name calling or swearing at aaron... NEVER. OR threatening... so maybe you should be aiming that comment to aaronM?

Violetta 05-22-2005 08:54 PM

A lot of drama tonight!

CDSmith 05-22-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
i didn't do 10% of the mouthing off aaron did, i never ONCE resorted to name calling or swearing at aaron... NEVER. OR threatening... so maybe you should be aiming that comment to aaronM?

Dude, there are plenty of posts of yours on that mult-page monster of a dog's breakfast thread where you should have probably kept it quiet rather than said shit. Plenty.

Not owning up to your share of the problem is one of your biggest downfalls in all this.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Dude, there are plenty of posts of yours on that mult-page monster of a dog's breakfast thread where you should have probably kept it quiet rather than said shit. Plenty.

Not owning up to your share of the problem is one of your biggest downfalls in all this.

bro i TRIED to deal with this off of the forum, trust me! i told aaron MANY times i want this resolved off the boards... i tried to work it out over the phone and on ICQ... ICQ he just put me on ignore, and he wouldn't deal with me on the phone.

Spunky 05-22-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky
A lot of drama tonight!

What would GFY be without drama?
Well to be honest..you aren't going to gain anything really by making a thread like this.I would suggest just letting it go..It sucks but consider it a lesson learned

Brujah 05-22-2005 09:01 PM

Sos, just get your money back. He doesn't want you to use his content obviously. Unless, there's a reason you don't feel you are owed a refund ?

sonofsam 05-22-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Sos, just get your money back. He doesn't want you to use his content obviously. Unless, there's a reason you don't feel you are owed a refund ?

get my money back? aaron said not only is he keeping my money, but that i'm lucky he's not suing me for 10's of thousands for copywrite infringement for posting those samples, lol

spunky : i know it wont accomplish anything, but at least people will know of my dealings and will maybe give it a second thought before they do business with someone.... and if this thread made some people think they would never want to do business with me, then so be it... but i will NEVER lie or BACK OUT of an agreement, or rip anyone off..

my current solo site isn't converting well.. and i TELL everyone that... i don't lie about shit... its converting bad because of the current design... but i still don't lie about it. i have nothing to gain by lying... thats why i say just keep the 3600 to show i have am not trying to accomplish anything by lying.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:09 PM


AaronM 05-22-2005 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
So Aaron, keep the 3600, I don?t even WANT that money back?


Good. That settles that.

You weren't going to get a dime back anyway.

As for the rest of your post...There were too many lies and half truths in there for me to reply to them all.

OH...And fuck you. :glugglug

newbreed 05-22-2005 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone
are the pancakes done yet?


You know, I don't remember formaly thanking you for the Expedition thing in Vegas this year, so, uhm, Thank You.

And no, the PC's aren't done yet, got some other shit to finish up, then I will get with some syrup. :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:14 PM

Bottom line translation.

He gave you 3600, didnt get the content and you tell em to fuck off?
Oh snap am I reading this right?

sonofsam 05-22-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
You know, I don't remember formaly thanking you for the Expedition thing in Vegas this year, so, uhm, Thank You.

And no, the PC's aren't done yet, got some other shit to finish up, then I will get with some syrup. :thumbsup

is arika malfunctioning? why are YOU making tha pancakes? lol jk bro :winkwink:

AaronM 05-22-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
I like AaronM, i've hung out with the guy, he's a class act in my opinion.

But it seems to me like sonofsam has no content, & AaronM is $3600 richer.

If i'm wrong, please correct me. Set me straight Aaron.


Actually, SOS has the content...He just lost his right to use it and he's 1 phone call away from losing more.

I'm not gonna get back into this bullshit game of his. He's a liar and he done fucked up.

This is old news that has been hashed and reshashed many many times.

Fuck sonofsam and fuck anybody who thinks he got a raw deal.

Clicky_Bucks 05-22-2005 09:17 PM

So Aaron feels ok as a businessman to take 3600 bucks for nothing? Interesting. I'm sure many people will be banging down your door after this, fatty.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:18 PM

Ya took $3600, revoked his right to use the content.

Damn this gives Russian Content providers a whole new appeal.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:19 PM

NO wonder the other thread spun for 7 pages, ya must have really did alot of dodging and weaving and spinning in it...

MikeVega 05-22-2005 09:20 PM

:disgust :disgust :disgust :disgust

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:22 PM

Nice calm silence now...

ROFLMA...

Great guy...

Really...

Tempest 05-22-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
He is kind of like the soup nazi of porn content.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh That's a perfect characterization!

Antonio 05-22-2005 09:24 PM

Sonofsam, speak to an attorney !!!!! It is in your own interest, even if you decide not to take any action at least you'll know exactly where you stand.

machinegunkelly 05-22-2005 09:25 PM

That's totally fucked up.
$3600 down the tubes and no content to use ,
cause you complained about the quality ?

unreal

AaronM 05-22-2005 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Aaron doesn't shoot goth content.

Aaron doesn't want you to use any of the content ? Did you get a refund ? If not, why not ?


No he didn't. And I will be more than happy to tell you why not.

Because of threads like this.

He continues to lie and liable himself about me. He infringed on my copyright and tried to harm my business reputation.

I had several options. 2 of those options included lawsuits against him.

I am the 3rd well known person that he had an issue with in his first 3-4 months of being in this business. The other two let him have his way so he did not learn anything from his fuck ups. Well....I'm not so easy.

If you try to fuck me then I will fuck you back harder. His $3,600 Canadian is nothing compared to what I could have done.

Agree with me or not....I really don't care. If any other client had violated my rights then I would have jerked their license too and they would not have received a dime back from me.

If you fuck up, you lose. That's business. :glugglug

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:28 PM

Well geeee thats mighty professional of you Aaron...

What a dick...
Ya really are a piece of work...

Spunky 05-22-2005 09:29 PM

What are your options? Talk to a lawyer,go through small claims and spend 5k and a couple years later maybe gain a judgement.You wasted time and more resources.I understand you would be pissed off but all this does is make the matters worse

seven 05-22-2005 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Actually, SOS has the content...He just lost his right to use it and he's 1 phone call away from losing more.

Just curious.. exactly how did you take the right back from him to use your content without giving him a refund for it?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 09:30 PM

God forbid if I ever hustled someone out on a design and told em to shove it and take thier money!!!

Bwaa HAhahahaha!
That would be front page GFY for the next 2 years.

AaronM 05-22-2005 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
i was under the impression the girls were like the many samples he showed me.... wasn't just the term "girl next door" i described it to him, and he showed me a bunch of samples and told me this is what the content package consisted of, no mention of the MIXED content :Oh crap



I have legit question for you Mike.

Do you really and honestly believe this bullshit? I'm serious. If so, you should consider seeking medical attention because you were shown a page that specifically mentioned all of this.

Some people get so wrapped up in their lies that they start to believe them. Are you that deep in yet or this all still just for show?

machinegunkelly 05-22-2005 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
No he didn't. And I will be more than happy to tell you why not.

Because of threads like this.

He continues to lie and liable himself about me. He infringed on my copyright and tried to harm my business reputation.

I had several options. 2 of those options included lawsuits against him.

I am the 3rd well known person that he had an issue with in his first 3-4 months of being in this business. The other two let him have his way so he did not learn anything from his fuck ups. Well....I'm not so easy.

If you try to fuck me then I will fuck you back harder. His $3,600 Canadian is nothing compared to what I could have done.

Agree with me or not....I really don't care. If any other client had violated my rights then I would have jerked their license too and they would not have received a dime back from me.

If you fuck up, you lose. That's business. :glugglug

Spare me alot of reading .. What terms did he violate ?
All I saw is him post some samples of the content you sent him , but I wasn't following the thread to heavily

sonofsam 05-22-2005 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky
What are your options? Talk to a lawyer,go through small claims and spend 5k and a couple years later maybe gain a judgement.You wasted time and more resources.I understand you would be pissed off but all this does is make the matters worse

i am not persueing it legally, i already told him to keep his 3600, remember?

AaronM 05-22-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Said it before, I'll say it again, this mess could have easily been avoided.

Even after mistakes were made it could have been fixed. All SoS had to do was pay Aaron the rest of the agreed-upon price, stop cocking off on the board about Aaron, and then ask Aaron if he wouldn't mind exchanging a bit of the content for some more "girl-next-door" type stuff.

SoS was not willing to bend at all, thus here he is with no license which means he can't even use the % of the CD that IS useable.

I tried. Lord knows how I tried. You make your bed, comes a time when you gotta lie in it.


You know. I don;t think I have ever seen another time in GFY history where somebody tried as hard as you did to act as a mediator and work things out between two other parties.

Very commendable of you.

I applaud and appreciate your efforts.

But as you said...sos was not flexible at all. So now, neither am I.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly
Spare me alot of reading .. What terms did he violate ?
All I saw is him post some samples of the content you sent him , but I wasn't following the thread to heavily

hes mad that i didn't like the content, so since he didn't send me the licences to use the content, he was suing me for posting the pictures lol

sonofsam 05-22-2005 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
You know. I don;t think I have ever seen another time in GFY history where somebody tried as hard as you did to act as a mediator and work things out between two other parties.

Very commendable of you.

I applaud and appreciate your efforts.

But as you said...sos was not flexible at all. So now, neither am I.

haha okay aaron, try and make yourself out to be the calm professional guy now... what a joke... how many times did i try and deal with you on ICQ and on the PHONE but you just wanted to bring it to the boards

Clicky_Bucks 05-22-2005 09:35 PM

You fuck with me, I steal your money. Great. You'll get yours one day.

Danny Dukes 05-22-2005 09:36 PM

Was it the fact that he "infringed on your copyright" or the fact that you were embarrased that he showed the type of content you sent him? Most people welcome there work being shown and isn't all publicity good publicity? I myself have never heard you talk about suing someone for posting pictures that had your copyright on them, shit Aaron I've posted pics of me and Ramona that you shot. Give the guy a break man, you really do look like the asshole right now and I'm sure you could give a fuck, but dude give a little to settle the matter.

I know all three of you guys, Aaron, AlienQ, and Sonofsam, You guys are stand up peeps to me and it sucks that as much people that we have to deal with outside of this Industry that we have togo through it within.......Im done here....... In the famous words of MXP "gett it onnnn" !

Spunky 05-22-2005 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
i am not persueing it legally, i already told him to keep his 3600, remember?

Yes,but this kind of shit brings back the possibility of legal action on his part.You will have to use more to defend yourself against it

AaronM 05-22-2005 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
actually i tried to leave him alone, and then a couple weeks later he kept attacking me, so i icq'ed him "listen.. fighting isn't going to solve anything, i'll just pay you the remainder, and then we dont need to talk anymore"

and he responded with fuck you, and that hes not giving me shit, even if i pay the remainder.... (even though the agreement was to get the site up and getting sales before paying the remainder) and that if i asked about it again he would sue me for Libel and copywrite infringement.


Another lie.

I never threatened to sue you if you asked about it again.

I promised to sue you if you decided to continue to tell lies about me.

Oh look...Another thread full of lies.

Gee...Now what shall I do? :1orglaugh

It's almost as if you are straight up asking me to ass fuck you for life.


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