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iBanker 05-21-2005 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyhey
is that the 48 point version? wtf

Fuck you shitbag. Like I would expect you to know the first fucking thing about it.

Blow me....and while you are at it :321GFY

iBanker 05-21-2005 06:59 PM

:321GFY
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Originally Posted by grumpy
stop crying, you make good money from it. I applaude the regulations, there is to much shit flooting around.

Wasn't cry shit-stick. Just opening up a discussion. :321GFY

iBanker 05-21-2005 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego
Looks like quite a few people have recently slept at a Holiday Inn.

I thought you were leaving for NY today? See the numbers from last night and today? :) :winkwink:

iBanker 05-21-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Reel
Great thread Chris :thumbsup

Bump

Thanks bud :)

It is pathetic how many people have no clue the implications that 2257 involves. After reading everyone's posts and discussing this openly, I have decided not to share anymore thoughts on it.

It is just to frustrating, and I'd rather go hit the bars with my girl instead.

(To those of you who contributed information of value to this thread, thanks :) even if I disagreed with you)

Mr.Fiction 05-21-2005 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YankBro

All the TGP and free site owners and affiliates who aren't password protecting their content from minors seem to be the targets of all this. One out of place ID and everything you own is seized, not to mention a child pornography charge and nice front-page write-up in the local newspapers. break loose.

A jury would have to convict you of a "child porn charge" without any evidence. Do you think many juries are going to convict someone of "child porn" because their valid paperwork, which proves the models are of legal age, are not in alphabetical order? Maybe someone too stupid or poor to hire good lawyers. Even if you did get convicted for a filing error, you have a pretty strong appeal if they try to make it stick as a "child porn" case and you can prove the models are all of legal age.

I don't see any indication that the target of this law is any specific group of sites. They are going after all porn, not just free porn or internet porn or TGPs. If you see somewhere in the regulations where they single out TGPs, please post that link.

Nate-MM2 05-21-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
A jury would have to convict you of a "child porn charge" without any evidence. Do you think many juries are going to convict someone of "child porn" because their valid paperwork, which proves the models are of legal age, are not in alphabetical order? Maybe someone too stupid or poor to hire good lawyers. Even if you did get convicted for a filing error, you have a pretty strong appeal if they try to make it stick as a "child porn" case and you can prove the models are all of legal age.

With child porn you are tried in both the courts of law and the court of public opinion.

I've had malicious child pornography production allegations levied against me in the past (I've never produced any content in my life) and some of the content providers that I explained the situation to and requested documentation from have treated me differently from that day on.

Luckily I got a heads up before the raid and pulled all the HD's out of my computers so they couldn't shut the business down. The investigation was dropped and I luckily never ended up in court.

Alex From San Diego 05-21-2005 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iBanker
I thought you were leaving for NY today? See the numbers from last night and today? :) :winkwink:

Who says I didn't leave and arrive already...LOL

Yeah I saw the numbers :thumbsup

Mr.Fiction 05-21-2005 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate-MM2
With child porn you are tried in both the courts of law and the court of public opinion.

I've had malicious child pornography production allegations levied against me in the past (I've never produced any content in my life) and some of the content providers that I explained the situation to and requested documentation from have treated me differently from that day on.

Luckily I got a heads up before the raid and pulled all the HD's out of my computers so they couldn't shut the business down. The investigation was dropped and I luckily never ended up in court.

Unfortunately, those running the country right now are trying to link all legal porn to child porn and the media often helps them with this lie. How many times do you hear a politician use the words "porn" and "child porn" as if there was no difference?

These new 2257 rules are being promoted by the Justice Department as a way to try to stop evil porn producers from using children in their movies. It's bullshit. The new rules don't do anymore than the old ones to protect kids.

These right wingers care more about attacking free speech than they do about protecting children. If they really cared about kids, they would leave legal porn alone and use their resources to protect kids.


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