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XPays 05-20-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
So it appears Xpays brought attention to XXXCash in efforts to deflict its own problems. Wow.... shady for sure.

no, you are shady or naive.

what do you see on xxxcash's landing now btw? natalie portman?

also do some quick searching in the engines and tell me if you see any xxxcash affiliates infringing on our client's intellectual property.

Shooting_Manic 05-20-2005 05:14 PM

All that being said you still have not answered the questions posed.

Don't waste time on this, no skin off my ass, but seeing ithat paris seems to be your one and only marketing ploy you might want to spend a bit more time answering your affiliates concerns rather then raising concerns of other programs.

BTW, some text message on Paris's t-mobile is HARDLY proof of anything. If that is your defense and proof of a business relationship between you and Hiton, then wow....... WOW.

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ok - so you think Paris cashes checks but would not sign a release and provide necessary doc's prior to issuance?[/
Yes, I tend to cash checks made out to me also, regardless of the source. ;) Show me someone that doesnt.

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i will scan a relative article where her own lawyer clearly states she is participating in all of this fun - it's from the new york times weekend edition last week btw. also- did you see in her tmobile notes "pick up check from rick".
Wow... with that kind of documentation you are covered for sure. :1orglaugh

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also do some quick searching in the engines and tell me if you see any xxxcash affiliates infringing on our client's intellectual property.
Youre deflecting again. ;)

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let's not be naive people.
If we were naive, we would not be asking the question.


:helpme

XPays 05-20-2005 05:16 PM

ok, think whatever you want. you are grasping at straws. peas out!

Shooting_Manic 05-20-2005 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays
ok, think whatever you want. you are grasping at straws. peas out!


Does not matter what I think. The people that is does matter to will find out one way or another. :winkwink:

Still, a very worthwhile question to pose and a question that you are clearly afraid or, have good reason not to answer. The burden of proof does not fall on my questions, but on your answers. I think your lack of an answer is answer enough.

Regards


:thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-20-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
So it appears Xpays brought attention to XXXCash in efforts to deflict its own problems. Wow.... shady for sure.

OH man...

LOL.

Evan says he has it, he has it.
He has rights to publicity also.

He has said so before, he has the contacts to make it all happen.
HUGE Difference.

There shouldnt be any doubts about his Paris Product.
He has answered this shit plenty of times.

XPays 05-20-2005 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
Does not matter what I think. The people that is does matter to will find out one way or another. :winkwink:

Still, a very worthwhile question to pose and a question that you are clearly afraid or, have good reason not to answer. The burden of proof does not fall on my questions, but on your answers. I think your lack of an answer is answer enough.

Regards


:thumbsup

when we first launched - of course people were skeptical. now it is a little late in the game to be so outright naive.

Shooting_Manic 05-20-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays
when we first launched - of course people were skeptical. now it is a little late in the game to be so outright naive.

Asking a legitimate question(s) does not make one "naive". Like you guys would be the first to run with a site without a release and proper docs.

Please


Either way, do what you do.

XPays 05-20-2005 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
Asking a legitimate question(s) does not make one "naive". Like you guys would be the first to run with a site without a release and proper docs.

Please


Either way, do what you do.

i gave you legit answers.

seeric 05-20-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincash Fred
Can someone reach her for ID and release ? :1orglaugh


i fucked her

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

will76 05-20-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze
I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..


thats funny, go tell an attorny that I am sure they will get a good laugh or better yet tell the judge :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

there are no exceptions because it seems obvious that she is of age. It's all about record keeping. You can get in trouble for not having 2257 on a 60 year old women, does not matter at all.

SmokeyTheBear 05-20-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze
I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..


Judge's dont work on "hunches" or what "may" be obvious.

If they ask you for 2257 documentation for your paris hilton ad banner and you say " this guy on gfy said its ok " isn't going to cut it..

Im not doubting xpays legal rights to the video, but when other sponsors are contacting affiliates telling them they will be cancelled if they promote xpays , then "someone" must not believe they do..

Xpays doesnt have to prove anything to us, but an article in the nytimes about paris participating in the video isn't going to cut it for 2257.

Scootermuze 05-20-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic
Gotgauge is correct and just to add to that... Its not her age that is in question, its if they have the proper documents. The new 2257 is as much about having all the documents and stored in the correct way as much as it is about the models age.

Understood and no arguement.. however... all of the new twist yells that the law is for the protection of minors and to insure that minors aren't being used in sexually explicit content...

Under the law.. the courts must rely on the 'original intent' of a law.. and as such.. the law could only apply if an individual included in sexually explicit content was, in the eyes of the court, questionable insofar as age.

If there was any question whatsoever in the age of P. Hilton, then ol' what's his face, that released the video would be in the courts as we speak instead of livin' life in luxury.. ..

But then I guess there are many laws where the courts forget to consider the original intent... Can you say IRS? .. :)

basschick 05-20-2005 08:42 PM

the new 2257 regs we all read require ALL content, regardless of model's age or fame, to be fully backed by i.d.

that means if i'm shooting 75 year old grannies, i still have to have the i.d., and if i put them on a banner, i have to give them to my affiliates for the affiliates to be within the law. also, according to the lawyers i talked with, if i put a banner on my site with a model, it doesn't matter where it's hosted - only that it's on my website.

assuming those are the regs as they got finalized, paris hilton banners will be no different.

RogerV 05-20-2005 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by basschick
the new 2257 regs we all read require ALL content, regardless of model's age or fame, to be fully backed by i.d.

that means if i'm shooting 75 year old grannies, i still have to have the i.d., and if i put them on a banner, i have to give them to my affiliates for the affiliates to be within the law. also, according to the lawyers i talked with, if i put a banner on my site with a model, it doesn't matter where it's hosted - only that it's on my website.

assuming those are the regs as they got finalized, paris hilton banners will be no different.

then make sure your banners are not sexually explicit. girls face or in a bra, bikinni etc.

Scootermuze 05-20-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by basschick
the new 2257 regs we all read require ALL content, regardless of model's age or fame, to be fully backed by i.d.

that means if i'm shooting 75 year old grannies, i still have to have the i.d., and if i put them on a banner, i have to give them to my affiliates for the affiliates to be within the law. also, according to the lawyers i talked with, if i put a banner on my site with a model, it doesn't matter where it's hosted - only that it's on my website.

assuming those are the regs as they got finalized, paris hilton banners will be no different.

IF they are sexually explicit... But.. I really doubt they'll kick your door down to make sure the 75 year old granny isn't a minor...

Scootermuze 05-20-2005 09:15 PM

Hmmm..

I guess it all means that if I promote an adult video/vod site, I need names, addresses, and copy of drivers licenses of everyone in every video that the sponsor site has for sale...

I have a feeling that Gonzales is goin down on this one...

Shooting_Manic 05-20-2005 09:40 PM

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I guess it all means that if I promote an adult video/vod site, I need names, addresses, and copy of drivers licenses of everyone in every video that the sponsor site has for sale

Thats exactly what it means.

mufas 05-20-2005 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
you have a copy of paris hilton's license ??? find it hard to believe she gave that to you although the bitch is pretty stupid..

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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