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eddie-executive · 05-21-2005, 08:01 AM

And that is where im focusing 90% of my time. There is so many more different opportunities to make money than there is in adult.

And there is one major way of advertising that I can't use in adult, offline and word of mouth advertising. Some of you freaks might say check out my site bangthatbitchesthroat.com or whatever to some stranger or friend but not me

Sure you can advertise adult offline but its limited, mainstream you can advertise almost everywhere. Free advertising is the best advertising

So are you cashing in on the other side?

martyVP · 05-21-2005, 08:04 AM

so why not give us link to what you do?

eddie-executive · 05-21-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

so why not give us link to what you do?

no thanks plus its linkS. I do more than one thing.

darksoul · 05-21-2005, 08:11 AM

nothing new.
The money from adult < 5%

Furious_Male · 05-21-2005, 08:11 AM

Diversify and do both.

chowda · 05-21-2005, 08:14 AM

there is no money in the following:
ebay
amazon
expedia
netflix
thank you

eddie-executive · 05-21-2005, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Diversify and do both.

I do but like i said 90% of my time is sticking with mainstream projects.

slackologist · 05-21-2005, 08:19 AM

Here's a good mainstream business.. besides real-estate.. though perhaps not for everyone.

Reselling for communications companies.. eg; Partner with companies like 'Optus' in Australia and take a small (5-10%)of every bill. It's not primarily web based but with even many regional businesses doing bills $100-$200k/year it can add up quite well over several years.

eddie-executive · 05-21-2005, 08:21 AM

I sell dead parakeets to blind kids

jay23 · 05-21-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie-executive

And that is where im focusing 90% of my time. There is so many more different opportunities to make money than there is in adult.

And there is one major way of advertising that I can't use in adult, offline and word of mouth advertising. Some of you freaks might say check out my site bangthatbitchesthroat.com or whatever to some stranger or friend but not me

Sure you can advertise adult offline but its limited, mainstream you can advertise almost everywhere. Free advertising is the best advertising

So are you cashing in on the other side?

I agree, I started in adult because when I started main stream was not ready for VOD so went into Adult for cash flow, but now my concentration on is on main stream.

Jay

VicD · 05-21-2005, 10:16 AM

talking the talk....

wallst · 05-21-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eddie-executive

I sell dead parakeets to blind kids

how thoughtful...

VicD · 05-21-2005, 10:28 AM

is easier than walking the walk, making money is hard these days

pxxx · 05-21-2005, 10:29 AM

Definitely money in Mainstream, i had a taste of it, but had to pull out. Was too much to manage with school, but i do look forward to getting back on the other side.

Postmaster · 05-21-2005, 10:36 AM

There's also a lot of money to be made in growing weed, but that's only for the criminals among us.
Respect,

Selio M

bluff · 05-21-2005, 10:39 AM

Mainstream, mainstream, blah, blah. Of course there's more money in 'mainstream' than there is in adult, but most people in this thread say so just for their image - and no one ever shows their 'mainstream ventures' on this board.

ry0t · 05-21-2005, 11:43 AM

You were a newbie a year ago coming on the board asking all kinds of questions am I right?

05-21-2005, 11:45 AM

I've turned my back on adult

Basic_man · 05-21-2005, 12:55 PM

There is more money in mainstream because the term "mainstream" is way much more larger than "adult" .

Manga1 · 05-21-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

I've turned my back on adult

Me too. Can't quit reading this board though. It's like a drug or something.

Steen2 · 05-21-2005, 02:18 PM

Mainstream = almost anything not "adult".

$5 submissions · 05-21-2005, 02:50 PM

This is very true. On a month to month basis, our mainstream revenues have been growing at a record clip. Plus, the fact that mainstream is so much easier to promote and network makes earnings forecasts even rosier. Low Cost outsourcing + Mainstream content verticals + niche product portfolio = $$$

It's interesting to note that within a growing range of product lines, mainstream actually pays more than many adult programs per consumer action. Whether you're talking PPC or PPS, the ad money flowing into mainstream is increasing webmasters' ROI.

Babagirls · 05-21-2005, 02:54 PM

i've said it before, and i'll say it again...

i will be doing 100% mainstream within the next 5 yrs.
the way the laws are getting, the newbies & cheaters coming in (that no one wants to teach cuz they dont want compeition) are fucking up the biz.

not only will I be doing mainstream online 100%, im also going to be opening my own offline biz to cateer to it.

$5 submissions · 05-21-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

i've said it before, and i'll say it again...

i will be doing 100% mainstream within the next 5 yrs.
the way the laws are getting, the newbies & cheaters coming in (that no one wants to teach cuz they dont want compeition) are fucking up the biz.

not only will I be doing mainstream online 100%, im also going to be opening my own offline biz to cateer to it.

I hear ya. Webmasterlabor.com is predominantly mainstream now

chadglni · 05-22-2005, 10:50 PM

I need help

European Lee · 05-22-2005, 10:54 PM

If you use the word 'mainstream' on any non-adult owned webmaster forum youll be instantly shunned because publishers in 'mainstream' dont use that term so they will know you are from 'adult'

Regards,

Lee

2HousePlague · 05-22-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

If you use the word 'mainstream' on any non-adult owned webmaster forum youll be instantly shunned because publishers in 'mainstream' dont use that term so they will know you are from 'adult'

Why "shunned", Lee -- ?

Differences in terminology notwithstanding, this suggests that Adult Webmasters have something to be ashamed of, or have reason to conceal their experience -- when broaching opportunities with parties outside Adult.

I don't disagree there's a morality-based bias against our industry, and that -- as an Adult Biz ExPat making his way in the "mainstream" realm -- we won't face our share of ignorant discrimination for the fact. But, If anywhere I'm hopeful that the value we bring to the table will be appreciated, it's among the ranks of other Webmasters -- who know how hard it is to make a buck on a click --

j-

Zester · 05-23-2005, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie-executive

And that is where im focusing 90% of my time. There is so many more different opportunities to make money than there is in adult.

And there is one major way of advertising that I can't use in adult, offline and word of mouth advertising. Some of you freaks might say check out my site bangthatbitchesthroat.com or whatever to some stranger or friend but not me

Sure you can advertise adult offline but its limited, mainstream you can advertise almost everywhere. Free advertising is the best advertising

So are you cashing in on the other side?

what's your biz?

Rorschach · 05-23-2005, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Postmaster

There's also a lot of money to be made in growing weed, but that's only for the criminals among us.
Respect,

Selio M

hahahaha fantastic post

bringer · 05-23-2005, 03:36 AM

shut the fuck up

Love Sex · 05-23-2005, 04:00 AM

there is also water in the ocean

OG LennyT · 05-23-2005, 04:12 AM

I see truth in that which you speak

Rui · 05-23-2005, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluff

Mainstream, mainstream, blah, blah. Of course there's more money in 'mainstream' than there is in adult, but most people in this thread say so just for their image - and no one ever shows their 'mainstream ventures' on this board.

fancy some copying eh

Rui · 05-23-2005, 04:16 AM

Gene - I understand you are currently working with mainstream ebooks among other things, was wondering if we could had a chat one of these days, got some questions (regarding copyright protection.etc..)

cheers

Tex Willer · 05-23-2005, 04:32 AM

it's easier to make monies in adult. Suppose it isn't. It's all serious companies or wanna be serious people. No crazy boards like gfy, no icq list full of friends, no funny bizzare querries in your traffic stats =)

and every site has to have pic of girl with headphones from hemera cd, some jerks in suits shaking hands and/or workin on laptops and bullshit text in small type. fuck em :-)

2HousePlague · 05-23-2005, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex Willer

it's easier to make monies in adult. Suppose it isn't. It's all serious companies or wanna be serious people. No crazy boards like gfy, no icq list full of friends, no funny bizzare querries in your traffic stats =)

and every site has to have pic of girl with headphones from hemera cd, some jerks in suits shaking hands and/or workin on laptops and bullshit text in small type. fuck em :-)

--

j-

sumphatpimp · 05-23-2005, 05:39 AM

their is no money in mainstream,
porn is the only way.

polish_aristocrat · 05-23-2005, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluff

Mainstream, mainstream, blah, blah. Of course there's more money in 'mainstream' than there is in adult, but most people in this thread say so just for their image - and no one ever shows their 'mainstream ventures' on this board.

might be true as well

eddie-executive · 05-23-2005, 05:43 AM

why would someone show anything they do on this board? So some hidden hater can fuck your shit up or steal your ideas?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-23-2005, 05:59 AM

diversity is indeed the key...do both. Knowing how to market will help in either. That is partially why we have products for both markets because a good sales person, is a good sales person.

KRL · 05-23-2005, 06:07 AM

A little bit of everything is the way to go. Non-adult sites do offer way more marketing opportunities to capitalize on.

12clicks · 05-23-2005, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie-executive

And that is where im focusing 90% of my time. There is so many more different opportunities to make money than there is in adult.

um, welcome to 1999

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie-executive

And there is one major way of advertising that I can't use in adult, offline and word of mouth advertising. Some of you freaks might say check out my site bangthatbitchesthroat.com or whatever to some stranger or friend but not me

Sure you can advertise adult offline but its limited, mainstream you can advertise almost everywhere. Free advertising is the best advertising

a peice of advice, spend no money on off line advertising for your online ventres.

cherrylula · 05-23-2005, 07:20 AM

well duh.

$5 submissions · 05-23-2005, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Gene - I understand you are currently working with mainstream ebooks among other things, was wondering if we could had a chat one of these days, got some questions (regarding copyright protection.etc..)

cheers

Sure thing. Hit me up at info at webmasterlabor.com

Quotealex · 05-23-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

(that no one wants to teach cuz they dont want compeition).

As far as I know, the same newbie resource sites that taught us the basics in the 1990s are still up. There's nothing preventing them from going to these sites iif they want to learn.

$5 submissions · 05-23-2005, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

a peice of advice, spend no money on off line advertising for your online ventres.

I remember working at an "incubator"/VC company back in the late 90s. They were so set on blowing $250,000 on "outdoor marketing" (billboards). Just like other dot bombs, the company went down just after 2001.

sickkittens · 05-23-2005, 07:37 AM

There is money in everything. You just need to know how to sell what it is you're selling.

Rui · 05-23-2005, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Sure thing. Hit me up at info at webmasterlabor.com

trying to hit you up on icq ;)

As for advertising offline, there are surely effective ways of doing it, don't expect outstanding results out of it tho.

slackologist · 05-23-2005, 07:42 AM

Mainstream online is going to continue to grow. There are niche markets that are in need of services and products that few businesses are in a position to provide.

kinetic · 05-23-2005, 07:49 AM

I sale short icq. Is that mainstream?

05-21-2005, 08:01 AM	#1
eddie-executive Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,061	Mainstream is where the money is And that is where im focusing 90% of my time. There is so many more different opportunities to make money than there is in adult. And there is one major way of advertising that I can't use in adult, offline and word of mouth advertising. Some of you freaks might say check out my site bangthatbitchesthroat.com or whatever to some stranger or friend but not me Sure you can advertise adult offline but its limited, mainstream you can advertise almost everywhere. Free advertising is the best advertising So are you cashing in on the other side? __________________ Jealousy... is a mental cancer. ~B.C. Forbes

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slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	Here's a good mainstream business.. besides real-estate.. though perhaps not for everyone. Reselling for communications companies.. eg; Partner with companies like 'Optus' in Australia and take a small (5-10%)of every bill. It's not primarily web based but with even many regional businesses doing bills $100-$200k/year it can add up quite well over several years.

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Tex Willer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,105	it's easier to make monies in adult. Suppose it isn't. It's all serious companies or wanna be serious people. No crazy boards like gfy, no icq list full of friends, no funny bizzare querries in your traffic stats =) and every site has to have pic of girl with headphones from hemera cd, some jerks in suits shaking hands and/or workin on laptops and bullshit text in small type. fuck em :-) __________________

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05-23-2005, 07:49 AM	#50
kinetic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Loch Ness Posts: 395	I sale short icq. Is that mainstream?