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Old 05-17-2005, 10:33 PM   #1
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Before Ashcroft

For those of you who remember Edwin Meese and "The Meese Commison" to rid the US of pornography:
Here's an article written in 1986 that is pretty interesting... and so damn familiar

http://eserver.org/cultronix/califia/meese/
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:42 AM   #2
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yeah, that whole sky falling thing sure is haunting, isn't it?

I mean Meese did so much to combat porn, the internet never came about. This is all just a dream.
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Old 05-18-2005, 07:49 AM   #3
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yeah, that whole sky falling thing sure is haunting, isn't it?

I mean Meese did so much to combat porn, the internet never came about. This is all just a dream.

Yup, all will be well with in the world.
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Old 05-18-2005, 09:05 AM   #4
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We only avoided what was in the Meese commission because of dilligent action from the (then film) porn industry, plus the american public being wise enough to vote more intelligently the next time around.

Sadly, the americans picked dubya... now you getting your dubya up for ass.

Enjoy the pain.

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Old 05-18-2005, 09:30 AM   #5
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We only avoided what was in the Meese commission because of dilligent action from the (then film) porn industry, plus the american public being wise enough to vote more intelligently the next time around.
Umm, you do know who the American public elected in 1988, don't you?
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Old 05-18-2005, 09:35 AM   #6
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yeah, they elected someone without any power, a left over VP without a clue and without a power base. Bush 1, the powerless president.

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Old 05-18-2005, 09:41 AM   #7
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For those of you who remember Edwin Meese and "The Meese Commison" to rid the US of pornography:
Here's an article written in 1986 that is pretty interesting... and so damn familiar

http://eserver.org/cultronix/califia/meese/
President of VCA was jailed ( Gurnett or something like that ). I had just did a deal to rep his product here.

Hal Freeman, a friend of mine, did a few years for distribution of obscene material ( The caught from Behind series). His wife got him released so he could die is his bed, the only thing after Rico took everything.... We used to send him money and pretend we were buying rights from him so that he didn't feel like a beggar ....

But 12shits knows better ....


Like mirroring my sites on a canadian server a month ago was stupid according to him .... 2257 ????
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:25 AM   #8
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We only avoided what was in the Meese commission because of dilligent action from the (then film) porn industry, plus the american public being wise enough to vote more intelligently the next time around.

Sadly, the americans picked dubya... now you getting your dubya up for ass.

Enjoy the pain.

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Gee, 4 more years of this pain, who could bear it!!!!????
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:31 AM   #9
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Gee, 4 more years of this pain, who could bear it!!!!????

Why would you care...

You're just a fucking peddler of scamware ....
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:33 AM   #10
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President of VCA was jailed ( Gurnett or something like that ). I had just did a deal to rep his product here.

Hal Freeman, a friend of mine, did a few years for distribution of obscene material ( The caught from Behind series). His wife got him released so he could die is his bed, the only thing after Rico took everything.... We used to send him money and pretend we were buying rights from him so that he didn't feel like a beggar ....

But 12shits knows better ....


Like mirroring my sites on a canadian server a month ago was stupid according to him .... 2257 ????
shitstain, he was convicted of pandering under California STATE law.

care to elaborate on the RICO thing?
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:34 AM   #11
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I guess you'd better hope the country stays at war so they are too busy to deal with issues inside the country...
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Why would you care...

You're just a fucking peddler of scamware ....
I love children who think successful people cheated their way to the top.


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Despite these concealment efforts, Mr. Freeman was charged and convicted under California?s "pandering" law, because he was paying individuals to perform sex acts on camera.1 The filming was done in private, and all models consented to the acts depicted in the film. There was no allegation that the movie was obscene. His attorneys sought to convince the courts that the First Amendment prohibited the application of pandering laws to the creation of adult materials, even though they might appear to apply. Ultimately, Freeman won the case, and the California Supreme Court decided that pandering laws could not be used as a tool to impose a system of governmental censorship of erotic materials.2 Specifically, the court held, "[E]ven if Defendant?s conduct could somehow be found to come within the definition of "prostitution" literally, the application of the pandering statute to the hiring of actors to perform in the production of a non-obscene motion picture would impinge unconstitutionally on First Amendment values."3 An appeal to the United States Supreme Court resulted in a ruling that the outcome turned independently on construction of California law, and thus the Supremes refused to get involved.4

Under the protection of that court decision, which is only binding in the State of California, the adult film industry began to flourish
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:57 AM   #14
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President of VCA was jailed ( Gurnett or something like that ). I had just did a deal to rep his product here.

Hal Freeman, a friend of mine, did a few years for distribution of obscene material ( The caught from Behind series). His wife got him released so he could die is his bed, the only thing after Rico took everything.... We used to send him money and pretend we were buying rights from him so that he didn't feel like a beggar ....

But 12shits knows better ....
where'd you go, halfwit?
I'm dying to hear all about your friend and how he was persecuted by the federal government.
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Old 05-18-2005, 11:01 AM   #15
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Same people whining about the same shit for 5 years. Many excuses as to why the predictions of the falling sky never come. It's a wonder we're still in business.
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