Originally Posted by vicki

This is a great thread. Serious issues, serious discussion and hopefully soon some serious solutions.

I don't believe even sponsor hosted content and/or galleries would help if its passed in its current form... meaning if the site giving access to the SHG must have compliance on their access site. (even sponsors offering links to compliance on each of their galleries would still leave the originating feeder site in non-compliance.)

Converting all the feeder sites to text-based-only still leaves the issue of banner ads etc.

We definately need some clarification on this before we can truly brainstorm for solutions.

Heck .. even consider Googles image search, as I see it even they would be liable to provide 2257. They certainly can't provide onsite compliance for all the naught pictures they show.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

OK, Here is a scenario for you?you are supposed to cross reference every image on every url with the appropriate 2257 documents, so say you have a banner server that serves banners randomly on pages?the DOJ comes knocking on your door with a screenshot of www.yoursite.com/somepage.html and asks for the 2257...how the hell can you account for something like that? Other than going to text based banners?this would be totally impossible.

Just another example of how stupid these fucking regulations are.

Originally Posted by scoreman

The larger programs will all likely have spent the time and money to get their records in order, but I think you will see nearly all the programs take a wait and see approach to releasing the docs to the affiliates. Giving out all the model ids and releases to our affiliates is something we will do IF its clear to us that its needed and we have no choices left. Here is the main problem: if we release this information prematurely we give away very important info (specifically model names and addresses) and in the meantime, the regs get tied up in litigation and eventually die in court, we cannot recover the info we released and prevent its distribution and disclosure to the wrong people (both competitors and stalkers). We can't unring the bell once its been rung.

These regs will be good for some (mostly lawyers) and significantly worse for others. For example, while paysites and freesites have alot of problems, places like premium newgroup providers like Easynews.com or Yahoo Groups will have to dramatically change their policies. Much of their business model relies on non documented postings. We could see these companies just phase out adult content altogether. This could result in a higher demand for adult product if the US Govt passes regs that restrict the proliferation of adult content in free areas. I think no matter what happens here you will see the better sites survive and grow stronger from all this.