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  • Alex
    So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
    • Jun 2004
    • 10963

    #1

    Is signing up with your own affiliate code to a site considered fraud?

    If you join a site via your revshare code. You aren't ripping them off of money, just getting a half off membership.
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  • aflex
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 3127

    #2
    or you could ask for an account.
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    • Damian_Maxcash
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 12745

      #3
      If your sending other sign ups I cant imagine anyone caring that much

      but most will give you a membership if you ask nice and send them some traffic

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      • Alex
        So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
        • Jun 2004
        • 10963

        #4
        Lol. Im not looking for a membership. I see too much porn as it is.
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        • Rui
          web
          • Dec 2001
          • 9533

          #5
          are we talking about a website access or a tangible product here ;) ?

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          • Dalai lama
            Strength and Honor
            • Jul 2004
            • 16540

            #6
            You can just ask for a password

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            • $5 submissions
              I help you SUCCEED
              • Nov 2003
              • 32195

              #7
              Originally posted by damian2001
              If your sending other sign ups I cant imagine anyone caring that much

              but most will give you a membership if you ask nice and send them some traffic
              Yep. As long as you make it clear you are using the membership info to get a better idea re their product for promotions purposes. At this point, the password they give you (barring any abuse) is a promotional tool that can only benefit both parties.

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              • StuBradley
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2002
                • 2625

                #8
                Originally posted by Alex
                Lol. Im not looking for a membership. I see too much porn as it is.
                Then what possible reason would there be to do this?

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                • fedfest
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 1334

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alex
                  If you join a site via your revshare code. You aren't ripping them off of money, just getting a half off membership.
                  As long as it's on revshare = you don't get more back from the program for the join than you payed for it.. Then i doubt anyone would have a problem
                  Don't do it on PPS though
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                  • fedfest
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2002
                    • 1334

                    #10
                    Originally posted by StuBradley
                    Then what possible reason would there be to do this?
                    1. to check the sites.. allways good to know what your selling

                    2. to check the program.. Never hurts to do a test signup on your own once in awhile to see if sales are tracked.. do that myself, and actually encurage our affiliates to do the same..
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                    • Tempest
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2004
                      • 10217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alex
                      If you join a site via your revshare code. You aren't ripping them off of money, just getting a half off membership.
                      Read the TOS.. Any program that catches you doing this will terminate your account. The reputable programs will allow you to do test signups but you have to report them once you've made them.

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                      • Alex
                        So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 10963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fedfest
                        1. to check the sites.. allways good to know what your selling

                        2. to check the program.. Never hurts to do a test signup on your own once in awhile to see if sales are tracked.. do that myself, and actually encurage our affiliates to do the same..
                        Bingo.
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                        • SmokeyTheBear
                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fedfest
                          As long as it's on revshare = you don't get more back from the program for the join than you payed for it.. Then i doubt anyone would have a problem
                          Don't do it on PPS though
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                          • tranza
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 57559

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aflex
                            or you could ask for an account.
                            What he said...
                            I'm just a newbie.

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                            • XPays
                              Team Player
                              • May 2004
                              • 13002

                              #15
                              off-topic

                              i am afraid if i give affiliates user/pwd's to hotelheiress that they will never get any work done, but we do it anyway.


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                              • PR_Dave
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 2792

                                #16
                                If you to a test sale report it to the program operator or your rep.

                                It's as easy as that.

                                If you pay $1 and then take home $40, that's fraud if you don't report it. Has nothing to do with "testing" to make sure everything is working right.

                                We encourage our webmasters to do test sales, but report them.

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                                • WiredGuy
                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 34512

                                  #17
                                  Best way is to always tell the company that you did it to be on the safe side. Probably better to tell them before you do it too.
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                                  • woj
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 47882

                                    #18
                                    I don't think any sponsor will you accuse of fraud if you email them right afterwards saying you did a test signup or that you wanted to check out the members area...
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                                    • Alex
                                      So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 10963

                                      #19
                                      Thats why i said revshare. I want to see the members area and test the affiliate program at the same time without ripping them off.
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                                      • Doc911
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 3695

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fedfest
                                        1. to check the sites.. allways good to know what your selling

                                        2. to check the program.. Never hurts to do a test signup on your own once in awhile to see if sales are tracked.. do that myself, and actually encurage our affiliates to do the same..

                                        can't agree with reason 1. any good program will give you a temp password to check the members area.

                                        However reason 2. is a fucking great idea and I recommend it to all affiliates. You should always check to see that the program works before you start sending hits to the sites. Just make sure you report it so the proper refund and deduction and be credited immediately after you verify everything is kosher.


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                                        • fedfest
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 1334

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                          Best way is to always tell the company that you did it to be on the safe side. Probably better to tell them before you do it too.
                                          WG
                                          So if you are going to do a test signup to see if a sponsor is shaving your ass you'r suposed to tell them... before you do it ?


                                          Btw, to some of the other posts here.. I think he said revshare, so if he has no gain from it (other than his normal %) then why should he report anything.. he just gave you anb extra sale ???
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                                          • midphase-dan
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 3

                                            #22
                                            It really depends in my book. If it is an establish affiliate signing up for an account
                                            for himself, thats fine, but if its the one-time affiliates whos only referal is themselves,
                                            then no way.

                                            Then again, I'm in hosting -- not adult stuff, but I know what thats like ;)

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                                            • Alex
                                              So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 10963

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Doc911
                                              can't agree with reason 1. any good program will give you a temp password to check the members area.
                                              Some dont give out passes till you sent x # of joins/traffic and others are anal about it.
                                              Care about me?
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                                              Me!
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                                              • Alex
                                                So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 10963

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by midphase-dan
                                                It really depends in my book. If it is an establish affiliate signing up for an account
                                                for himself, thats fine, but if its the one-time affiliates whos only referal is themselves,
                                                then no way.
                                                And what would your reason for that be?
                                                Care about me?
                                                Who?
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                                                • WiredGuy
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 34512

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fedfest
                                                  So if you are going to do a test signup to see if a sponsor is shaving your ass you'r suposed to tell them... before you do it ?


                                                  Btw, to some of the other posts here.. I think he said revshare, so if he has no gain from it (other than his normal %) then why should he report anything.. he just gave you anb extra sale ???
                                                  Joining under your refcode is a reason to terminate your account, so I'd rather get paid and tell them upfront.

                                                  WG
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                                                  • fedfest
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 1334

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                    Joining under your refcode is a reason to terminate your account, so I'd rather get paid and tell them upfront.

                                                    WG
                                                    'Can be' a reason to terminate....
                                                    Guess that would depend on the program.

                                                    Can't see why it should be a problem though.. First of all he's helping you test your program making sure sales are tracked right..
                                                    Second, he just put money in your pocket giving your site an extra sale.
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                                                    No Traffic Leaks, No Popups, No Bullshit.. You get Credited For EVERYTHING !

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                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 34512

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fedfest
                                                      'Can be' a reason to terminate....
                                                      Guess that would depend on the program.

                                                      Can't see why it should be a problem though.. First of all he's helping you test your program making sure sales are tracked right..
                                                      Second, he just put money in your pocket giving your site an extra sale.
                                                      Its still better I think to tell the program upfront, for example buying a merchandise item like a sex toy, even though its revshare, its still a way to obtain the product at a lower cost.

                                                      WG
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                                                      • Alex
                                                        So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 10963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                        Joining under your refcode is a reason to terminate your account, so I'd rather get paid and tell them upfront.

                                                        WG
                                                        So how do you check to see it tracks
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                                                        • thaifan99
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 3029

                                                          #29
                                                          If i do test sign ups i post it on the wm`s board as soon as the SU appears in my stats. So far every single test sign up has appeared over 4 sponsors.
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