Glazer bids for Man U., serious money. - GoFuckYourself.com

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 06:26 AM

Seems amazing for a football team...... $1.5 billion

but imagine what a brand like Beckham is worth, and it seems to be gaining popularity in the States as well

pradaboy · 05-12-2005, 06:31 AM

I doubt they will sell... there seems to be a large opposition.

evanmorgan · 05-12-2005, 06:37 AM

becks is at madrid now.....

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan

becks is at madrid now.....

lol... I forgot about that!!

I shouldnt drink this 3rd bottle of wine

Sarah_Jayne · 05-12-2005, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

I doubt they will sell... there seems to be a large opposition.

from what I hear, they are

Jensen · 05-12-2005, 06:39 AM

is the formal bid in? Thought it was supposed to be presented tomorrow. JP Morgan supports him so I guess he will make a bid whatever the cost.

jf2404 · 05-12-2005, 06:44 AM

Sheik Mohammed was rumoured to be interested also.

As a man u fan i'd prefer Sheik as he is fucking loaded (doesn't need to borrow like Glazer) and he's a nice guy.

jf2404 · 05-12-2005, 06:51 AM

Sounds like jp morgan and mcmanus have sold their shares to Glazer. Looks like it's gonna happen

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 07:00 AM

More info

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4540939.stm

Interesting about the debt right offs.........

pradaboy · 05-12-2005, 07:27 AM

wow I wonder what kind of impact this could have... he could easily ruin the entire bunch.

Gunni · 05-12-2005, 07:38 AM

looks like the manscs are fucked

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A spokesman for Shareholders United told the BBC that Mr Glazer was "no Roman Abramovich"

That's for sure

Ross · 05-12-2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Seems amazing for a football team...... $1.5 billion

but imagine what a brand like Beckham is worth, and it seems to be gaining popularity in the States as well

Are you still drunk in London? You'd have to be to not know David Beckham signed for Real Madrid 2 years ago.

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Are you still drunk in London? You'd have to be to not know David Beckham signed for Real Madrid 2 years ago.

We have been over that

Vitasoy · 05-12-2005, 08:00 AM

Damn.. soccer or shall I say football over there is big.

gecko · 05-12-2005, 08:43 AM

That's some serious money

Tytan · 05-12-2005, 08:49 AM

If he fucks up my club (manchester united) im going to cut his head off.

Gunni · 05-12-2005, 09:00 AM

ok everyone, let's sing...

Times are Blue
Times are Blue
Times are Blue
Times are Blue
Times are Blue for Man U

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tytan

If he fucks up my club (manchester united) im going to cut his head off.

Football is a serious business......

JerseyPuma · 05-12-2005, 09:06 AM

This is pretty much a done deal, those 2 irish horse owners selling was the nail in the coffin.

An American owning the biggest sports franchise in the world, and a British soccer team to boot...who'da thunk it??

GatorB · 05-12-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyPuma

This is pretty much a done deal, those 2 irish horse owners selling was the nail in the coffin.

An American owning the biggest sports franchise in the world, and a British soccer team to boot...who'da thunk it??

Yes and as a Bucs fan I wish ignorant Man U fans would stop coming over to the messageboard at buccaneers.com and stop whinning about it. The only reason they hate him is because he's an American which is retarded. If he was English this would even be news.

Thye say he's going to ruin the team. WTF what a bunch of retards. The Bucs were a joke until the Glazers bought them and as I recall they won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Now the previous Bucs owner, now that was a bad owner.

Gunni · 05-12-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yes and as a Bucs fan I wish ignorant Man U fans would stop coming over to the messageboard at buccaneers.com and stop whinning about it. The only reason they hate him is because he's an American which is retarded. If he was English this would even be news.

Thye say he's going to ruin the team. WTF what a bunch of retards. The Bucs were a joke until the Glazers bought them and as I recall they won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Now the previous Bucs owner, now that was a bad owner.

They're worried about the fact that he doesn't actually have the money to buy the club, he's borrowing it. What do you think he will have to do to get his money back? Obviously win stuff and make them the best team in England, with Abramovich at Chelsea that will not happen as Glazier will need alot of money to strengthen the squad, and Roman simply has alot more money and can alway outbid him in everything. Not that Chelsea need to do that now, they have the strongest team in England.

I don't think he will manage to keep Man U as the biggest football club in the world as they are past their best. And both him and the club will end up bankrupt (or he will bail out and leve the club in ruins)

jayeff · 05-12-2005, 09:28 AM

Glazer already owns a little under 30% of United, a similar shareholding to a couple of Irish racehorse owners who seem tempted to sell him their shares. He has until next Tuesday to make a formal offer or withdraw and with fans threatening boycotts which could cost the club $25 million a year if Glazer wins, the outcome is not at all certain.

United is the most profitable soccer club in the world and makes around $50 million profit per year. A couple of years ago, another American billionaire, Philip Anschutz, was also rumored to be considering a takeover. Glazer's current bid - he has already been turned down three times - is close to $2 billion.

jayeff · 05-12-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

The only reason they hate him is because he's an American which is retarded. If he was English this would even be news.

Try finding out some facts. The problem is that on top of a 10% ticket price increase that already has the fans upset, Glazer's bid would mean more price increases to pay back the money he would have to borrow to finance his bid.

MU is already corporate football to the nth degree. They have a whole range of different shareholders and I doubt anyone could care less who holds the biggest block (although for obvious reasons fans and some shareholders might prefer that no one individual holds enough to run the place like a private toy).

GatorB · 05-12-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

Try finding out some facts.The problem is that on top of a 10% ticket price increase that already has the fans upset, Glazer's bid would mean more price increases to pay back the money he would have to borrow to finance his bid.

Oh I have facts. Facts is English people are tards. Did it ever occur to you that

A) even before today he already owned over 1/4 of the team?

B) The WHOEVER buys the team will most likely increase ticket prices?

C) There are MILLIONS of Man U fans so if they care so much each one could by a few shares of the publically traded club at less than $6 a share and buy the club themselves?

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MU is already corporate football to the nth degree. They have a whole range of different shareholders and I doubt anyone could care less who holds the biggest block (although for obvious reasons fans and some shareholders might prefer that no one individual holds enough to run the place like a private toy).

One again go look up the Bucs history BEFORE 1995 and since.

alexg · 05-12-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

but imagine what a brand like Beckham is worth

Damian_Maxcash · 05-12-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

OK Bitch... we have done the "Stupid Idiot" post

Gunni · 05-12-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh I have facts. Facts is English people are tards. Did it ever occur to you that

A) even before today he already owned over 1/4 of the team?

B) The WHOEVER buys the team will most likely increase ticket prices?

C) There are MILLIONS of Man U fans so if they care so much each one could by a few shares of the publically traded club at less than $6 a share and buy the club themselves?

One again go look up the Bucs history BEFORE 1995 and since.

Read my post, they are not just worried about the ticket price, they are worried about putting the club in a huge debt and going bankrupt (if he get's 90% of the shares he can actually transfer all the debts onto the club). If that happens there is nothing to stop him from simply walking away.

If it was as simple buying shares don't you think this guy would have done this ages ago?? The fans have put together a group to try and buy every share they can get their hands on, but there aren't that many for sale.

Also btw. NFL is a completely different thing than English football, do teams get relegated in the NFL? No, you can go a whole season with out winning a game, and still compete at top level next season.
Look at Leeds and their history, next season will be their second out of the top league in England, that is what Man U supporters are worried about...

Btw. I like that Malcolm guy, hope he gets all the shares!

GatorB · 05-12-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunni

Read my post, they are not just worried about the ticket price, they are worried about putting the club in a huge debt and going bankrupt (if he get's 90% of the shares he can actually transfer all the debts onto the club). If that happens there is nothing to stop him from simply walking away.

If it was as simple buying shares don't you think this guy would have done this ages ago?? The fans have put together a group to try and buy every share they can get their hands on, but there aren't that many for sale.

Also btw. NFL is a completely different thing than English football, do teams get relegated in the NFL? No, you can go a whole season with out winning a game, and still compete at top level next season.
Look at Leeds and their history, next season will be their second out of the top league in England, that is what Man U supporters are worried about...

Btw. I like that Malcolm guy, hope he gets all the shares!

Listen he nees $1.3bil right? I KNOW for a fact that the Bucs are worth at keast half that if not more. If he REALLY want Man U he could always sell the Bucs. I would hate that because unlike Man U fan I know what he has done for my team. And I can help if soccer has stupid rules that demotes teams. I seriously doubt that will happen under Glazer. Man U has millions of fans they pay good money for Man U merhcandise and if they got demoted not only would peole not show up to game but merchandise sales will fall too.

Glazer isn't a fool. He changed the Bucs logo and colors and got the team good and guess what the Bucs went from near dead last in merchandise sales to a top 10 seller anually. Also if all he wanted to do is make moeny he culd have kept doing what the old Bucs owner was doing. He never invested in the team, the team lost a lot, the stadium was always half full and most of those people were fans of the OTHER team. Yet the Bucs were always one of the most profitable teams every year.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-12-2005, 10:13 AM

I guess the point of fans over here is that they want someone to have a love for their club...but when you became a traded company this was going to happen one day.

GatorB · 05-12-2005, 10:24 AM

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I guess the point of fans over here is that they want someone to have a love for their club...but when you became a traded company this was going to happen one day.

Well Is till don't get what harrasing innocnet fans of the NFL team he owns does. Because

A) No one at the Bucs board has owns any part of the team

B) No one at the Bucs board has any personal relationship with the Glazers

C) Glazer doesn't read the board and even if he did I seriously doubt reading some Man U fans post will change his mind.

So when I see threads like "Die Glazer die", "Burn in hell Glazer", "Tell your owner......", "You better leave Man U alone or else" over at buccanners.com what am I to think about Man U fan other than they are retards? Good thing they have awesome mods over there.

Also trying to tell us Bucs fan how bad of an owner he is when winning 5 games a year was a GOOD year and we had 3 winning season in 19 years and Glazer comes and and within 8 years we had 5 playoff apearances and a SB title, well that person isn't going to be taken seriously

Sarah_Jayne · 05-12-2005, 10:30 AM

well, that is wrong but it shows the level of seriousness football (soccer) gets in this country BUT it is wrong and most people would think so when they have their clear heads. Heck, half the man u fans don't even live in Manchester.

GatorB · 05-12-2005, 10:33 AM

Hmmm what to think of this

"United's shares rose 34.25p, or 12.9%, to 299.25p shortly after the announcement."

Gunni · 05-13-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Listen he nees $1.3bil right? I KNOW for a fact that the Bucs are worth at keast half that if not more. If he REALLY want Man U he could always sell the Bucs. I would hate that because unlike Man U fan I know what he has done for my team. And I can help if soccer has stupid rules that demotes teams. I seriously doubt that will happen under Glazer. Man U has millions of fans they pay good money for Man U merhcandise and if they got demoted not only would peole not show up to game but merchandise sales will fall too.

Glazer isn't a fool. He changed the Bucs logo and colors and got the team good and guess what the Bucs went from near dead last in merchandise sales to a top 10 seller anually. Also if all he wanted to do is make moeny he culd have kept doing what the old Bucs owner was doing. He never invested in the team, the team lost a lot, the stadium was always half full and most of those people were fans of the OTHER team. Yet the Bucs were always one of the most profitable teams every year.

Again, they are afraid he will transfer the debt onto the club (he will not sell the bucs if they are doing well and man u bad, he is a business man not a man u fan). So if things are going bad, and he is actually losing money on Man U, there is very little to stop him from bankrupting the company and going back home. That would be the beginning of the end for Man U, relegation, losing star players etc. (note, I am talking about if they do bad and Glazer leves the club)

evanmorgan · 05-13-2005, 12:43 AM

anyone who cant see why the glazer bid is bad for the club is a maniac. He is financing the purchase of the shares with a loan of 300 million. United has tradditionally been the richest of all football clubs, in terms of profit. That will stop now, they will have to cut the wage bill and the squad and will increase ticket prices. However the increase in ticket prices isnt the half of it, to pay back 300 million he will have to sell some assets, be it players, the ground etc. This is worrying times for the club.

Evan

evanmorgan · 05-13-2005, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Listen he nees $1.3bil right? I KNOW for a fact that the Bucs are worth at keast half that if not more. If he REALLY want Man U he could always sell the Bucs. I would hate that because unlike Man U fan I know what he has done for my team. And I can help if soccer has stupid rules that demotes teams. I seriously doubt that will happen under Glazer. Man U has millions of fans they pay good money for Man U merhcandise and if they got demoted not only would peole not show up to game but merchandise sales will fall too.

Glazer isn't a fool. He changed the Bucs logo and colors and got the team good and guess what the Bucs went from near dead last in merchandise sales to a top 10 seller anually. Also if all he wanted to do is make moeny he culd have kept doing what the old Bucs owner was doing. He never invested in the team, the team lost a lot, the stadium was always half full and most of those people were fans of the OTHER team. Yet the Bucs were always one of the most profitable teams every year.

the difference is, the bucs werent the largest brand in their sport. The only way is down for united....

05-12-2005, 06:26 AM	#1
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Glazer bids for Man U., serious money. Seems amazing for a football team...... $1.5 billion but imagine what a brand like Beckham is worth, and it seems to be gaining popularity in the States as well

05-12-2005, 06:31 AM	#2
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	I doubt they will sell... there seems to be a large opposition. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	wow I wonder what kind of impact this could have... he could easily ruin the entire bunch. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Damn.. soccer or shall I say football over there is big. __________________ [email protected]

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Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	is the formal bid in? Thought it was supposed to be presented tomorrow. JP Morgan supports him so I guess he will make a bid whatever the cost.

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jf2404 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: U.K Posts: 657	Sheik Mohammed was rumoured to be interested also. As a man u fan i'd prefer Sheik as he is fucking loaded (doesn't need to borrow like Glazer) and he's a nice guy.

05-12-2005, 06:51 AM	#8
jf2404 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: U.K Posts: 657	Sounds like jp morgan and mcmanus have sold their shares to Glazer. Looks like it's gonna happen

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Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	More info http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4540939.stm Interesting about the debt right offs.........

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Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	ok everyone, let's sing... Times are Blue Times are Blue Times are Blue Times are Blue Times are Blue for Man U

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JerseyPuma Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,149	This is pretty much a done deal, those 2 irish horse owners selling was the nail in the coffin. An American owning the biggest sports franchise in the world, and a British soccer team to boot...who'da thunk it?? __________________ LOVERCASH.COM good dating sites.

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jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Glazer already owns a little under 30% of United, a similar shareholding to a couple of Irish racehorse owners who seem tempted to sell him their shares. He has until next Tuesday to make a formal offer or withdraw and with fans threatening boycotts which could cost the club $25 million a year if Glazer wins, the outcome is not at all certain. United is the most profitable soccer club in the world and makes around $50 million profit per year. A couple of years ago, another American billionaire, Philip Anschutz, was also rumored to be considering a takeover. Glazer's current bid - he has already been turned down three times - is close to $2 billion.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I guess the point of fans over here is that they want someone to have a love for their club...but when you became a traded company this was going to happen one day.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	well, that is wrong but it shows the level of seriousness football (soccer) gets in this country BUT it is wrong and most people would think so when they have their clear heads. Heck, half the man u fans don't even live in Manchester.

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	Hmmm what to think of this "United's shares rose 34.25p, or 12.9%, to 299.25p shortly after the announcement."

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evanmorgan Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,490	anyone who cant see why the glazer bid is bad for the club is a maniac. He is financing the purchase of the shares with a loan of 300 million. United has tradditionally been the richest of all football clubs, in terms of profit. That will stop now, they will have to cut the wage bill and the squad and will increase ticket prices. However the increase in ticket prices isnt the half of it, to pay back 300 million he will have to sell some assets, be it players, the ground etc. This is worrying times for the club. Evan __________________ Perfect for Asian, Petite,Teen, Exotic, Bikini, Solo girl, Panty, Softcore and Cameltoe Traffic 100% Exclusive Girls and Content NEW JOON MALI Tour - LILY KOH 60% Lifetime Rev Share, 10% Webmaster Referral - Epassporte