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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47882

    #101
    100 mailers..
    Last edited by woj; 05-10-2005, 11:35 PM.
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    • Anthony
      Keyboard Warrior
      • Feb 2001
      • 9653

      #102
      Originally posted by Agnosticism
      You fucken tools. There was a guy making 20k/day and just recently he filed bankrupcy. Why? All the big corps sued his ass until he had no more funds. People still make good cash now a days but the big earners invest way MUCH more money then you think. Along with that you pretty much to have to become a ghost because to generate that will be insane heat. You will be served your papers in the matter of weeks, but I am not going to get into that.

      So your best bet is to establish a "real" business, it will pay off in the long run. No need to worry about lawsuits and won't have to live your income day by day.
      You are referring to non can spam compliant mailers. Proxy sending has gone way of the Dodo. Time to move on and become legit.

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      • V_RocKs
        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
        • Nov 2003
        • 32449

        #103
        I am high right now.

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        • Phoenix
          BACON BACON BACON
          • Nov 2002
          • 35475

          #104
          old thread to bump
          money in mailings...who would have guessed ;)
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          • slapass
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2002
            • 14625

            #105
            three years later and i wonder if any of this is still true???

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            • V_RocKs
              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
              • Nov 2003
              • 32449

              #106
              Funny.. I just started getting into mailers lately and it all seems true.

              Opt-in lists are "fun"...

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              • crockett
                in a van by the river
                • May 2003
                • 76818

                #107
                Originally posted by nico-t
                2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
                How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?
                It works by installing trojans on other people PC's. The mailers then use those PC's and their unsuspecting users as a proxie to send mails from.

                The guys that are making big money from mailing are not doing it on the up and up. They are supporting the very scumbags whom hack and install trojans on our sites.

                When you see guys asking for proxies or selling proxies, well that's what they are selling, IP's of infected PC's.

                Reguardless if the lists are legit, 9 times out of 10 they are still proxie mailing, which is illegal.
                Last edited by crockett; 01-05-2008, 12:02 PM.
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                • V_RocKs
                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32449

                  #108
                  I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.

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                  • slapass
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 14625

                    #109
                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                    Funny.. I just started getting into mailers lately and it all seems true.

                    Opt-in lists are "fun"...
                    hmm we should talk hehe

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                    • cykoe6
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 4499

                      #110
                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                      I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.
                      I have been collecting emails the same way but I am wondering what are good sponsors to use? It seems most sponsors don't allow email promo of any kind, even if it is double opt in like the addresses I have.
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                      • V_RocKs
                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32449

                        #111
                        Yeah... They all say that... And I just pretend I never read that... ;)

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                        • psili
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 5526

                          #112
                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                          Yeah... They all say that... And I just pretend I never read that... ;)
                          You don't use proxies yet you don't adhere to sponsor TOCs? I bet you only send to "triple-opted-in with a verified signature" email as well? All you spammers are shady fuckers, even those sticking shit in my physical mail box. If Dante was alive there'd be a new level of Hell for you bitches.

                          Anyway, I'll give you one thing, I bet the sponsors really don't give a shit how they get sales though, so good on you, man. Make that cash, I guess. *shrug*
                          Your post count means nothing.

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                          • Xrated J
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4347

                            #113
                            this thread has been a fun read

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                            • crockett
                              in a van by the river
                              • May 2003
                              • 76818

                              #114
                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                              I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.
                              Yea but I was talking about the guys people think of when talking about mailers. What you are doing is more like a newsletter. Sure it's mailing, but you aren't sending millions of e-mails a day.
                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                              • minusonebit
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 7391

                                #115
                                Here is a good place for spammers:

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                                • V_RocKs
                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32449

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by psili
                                  You don't use proxies yet you don't adhere to sponsor TOCs? I bet you only send to "triple-opted-in with a verified signature" email as well? All you spammers are shady fuckers, even those sticking shit in my physical mail box. If Dante was alive there'd be a new level of Hell for you bitches.

                                  Anyway, I'll give you one thing, I bet the sponsors really don't give a shit how they get sales though, so good on you, man. Make that cash, I guess. *shrug*
                                  For such an intelligent guy you sure are paranoid.

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                                  • iSMOKE
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2007
                                    • 1028

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by slapass
                                    You realize the other ones are illegal right?

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                                    • iSMOKE
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2007
                                      • 1028

                                      #118
                                      Spam is gr8. Nothing like going from $0/wk to $400/wk in 2 weeks or so. Conversions looking like 1:25...Spending 20mins of my day then coming back with $100+. All the bills paid without ever having to clock in or listen to anyone...damn those were the good old days

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                                      • StarkReality
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 4444

                                        #119
                                        There is a very thin line between compilant or non-compilant mailing, especially if people don't collect these mails themselves. Often mailers have to cross the line partially, since spam filters often don't care if a mailing is legit or not, etc.

                                        There is a reason why it is so damn profitable: Even if you try to abide by the law, it's still risky business.

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                                        • TheDoc
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 13827

                                          #120
                                          A mailer that can send 100 sales a day isn't a big webmaster. The sales won't stay, the complaints are high, the trail to converts are the worst in the business.

                                          I figured programs supported them because it was so easy to become a mailer rather than a Webmaster with real skill. So a program could easily get 5 mailers doing 100 sales a day - but they only had 1 whale doing 500 sales a day.

                                          Greed is the drive I guess..
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                                          • Juicy D. Links
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 122992

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                            the trail to converts are the worst in the business.

                                            - the "mailer" sucks
                                            - his "data" sucks
                                            - look above

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                                            • The Duck
                                              Adult Content Provider
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 18243

                                              #122
                                              I know this firsthand.
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                                              • Peter Romero
                                                Long time no happy ending
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 10604

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Relish XXX
                                                I send out email newslertters to expired members and current members. We also gather in email addresses from pages like www.vickiepowell.com and a varietey of other sources.
                                                What's the best e-mail program to do that?


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                                                • DirtyProfits
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2005
                                                  • 1885

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                  So is Holland.
                                                  It is? .

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                                                  • Dagwolf
                                                    President of Canada
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 23141

                                                    #125
                                                    Spam pays... never did it myself though
                                                    Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                                                    • psili
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 5526

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                      For such an intelligent guy you sure are paranoid.
                                                      Apologies man... I just hate unsolicited mail / email. If you're just sending "newsletters" to emails collected in a legit fashion, good for you. You must be one of the few not abusing a mailing list.
                                                      Your post count means nothing.

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                                                      • stev0
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 6801

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by slapass
                                                        You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.
                                                        All of the spam I get is illegal, if it were can spam compliant my filter would stop it long before it hits me.

                                                        Spammers could all fuck off and die for all I care, it's a pathetic way to make a living.

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                                                        • Phil
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 7659

                                                          #128
                                                          is there spammer start up kit for sale???
                                                          Ask Phil

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                                                          • V_RocKs
                                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 32449

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by psili
                                                            Apologies man... I just hate unsolicited mail / email. If you're just sending "newsletters" to emails collected in a legit fashion, good for you. You must be one of the few not abusing a mailing list.
                                                            I like your site. And the attention to programming.

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                                                            • psili
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 5526

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                              I like your site. And the attention to programming.
                                                              hahaha... I'm not sure which site you're referring to, but i suck at updating anything of my own which is pretty evident. there's only so many hours in the day *shrug* Somehow my http://v-rocks.confesstojesus.com gets hits, though I have no clue how.

                                                              anyway man. again, if you send legit emails and make some cash, more power to you. i just have issues with "spammers", so for my asshole posts in this thread, i apologize if you don't fit the bill, though I suspect others might
                                                              Your post count means nothing.

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                                                              • pocketkangaroo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2005
                                                                • 8452

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by cykoe6
                                                                I have been collecting emails the same way but I am wondering what are good sponsors to use? It seems most sponsors don't allow email promo of any kind, even if it is double opt in like the addresses I have.
                                                                That's just a line they put on their website to save their ass down the line. Fact is, if you can send sales, there are very few people who will give a shit where it comes from.

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                                                                • chipmunk
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 1039

                                                                  #132
                                                                  The reality is...

                                                                  There are CAN-SPAM compliant mailers and then are spammers. The two are very very different. In the mainstream, compliant mailing is considered very normal and very profitable. This is one reason list management and companies that handle list management have been increasing in recent years.

                                                                  Mail has gotten such a bad rap on the adult side (as it should), as the majority of ?mailers? are really ?spammers?.

                                                                  -=Chipmunk=-
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                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 51460

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by chipmunk
                                                                    Mail has gotten such a bad rap on the adult side (as it should), as the majority of ?mailers? are really ?spammers?.

                                                                    -=Chipmunk=-
                                                                    Yeah, a few of them must have been hurting for grocery money over Christmas and New Year's because the penis pill spam trippled over those weeks.

                                                                    Good thing I have an unspammable inbox. :D
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                                                                    • Agent 488
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                      • 22511

                                                                      #134
                                                                      why bumping this shit fuckface?

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                                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 32449

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Still mailing...

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                                                                        • mikeyddddd
                                                                          Viva la vulva!
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 16557

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                                          why bumping this shit fuckface?


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                                                                          • Robbie
                                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 20960

                                                                            #137
                                                                            LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!
                                                                            -Robbie
                                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                            • pradaboy
                                                                              sell me your banners
                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                              • 12931

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                              LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!
                                                                              Considering the amount of Viagra and Percocet spam in my junk folder I think people are still making money.
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                                                                              • billywatson
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 3281

                                                                                #139
                                                                                I can't believe how "dumb" my yahoo mailbox is...and how "smart" my g-mail box is.

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                                                                                • rowan
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                  • 17393

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Interesting to see some industry stalwarts freely talking about spamming... must look up more old threads

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                                                                                  • Farang
                                                                                    one sick puppy
                                                                                    • Oct 2004
                                                                                    • 11718

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Stop confusing me with expired info, gfy people, thanks
                                                                                    fbm

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                                                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                                                                      (felis madjewicus)
                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                      • 20368

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                      LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!
                                                                                      Regardless of thread age, you're still surprised? The people who have the power and money to invest in serious spam will still be banking huge 10 years from now. Spam ain't going nowhere...

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                                                                                      • Argos88
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Sep 2009
                                                                                        • 1732

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        hmmmmm why bump a 5 years old thread ?

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                                                                                        Last edited by Argos88; 03-23-2010, 05:28 PM.

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                                                                                        • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                                                                          (felis madjewicus)
                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 20368

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by Argos88
                                                                                          hmmmmm why bump a 5 years old thread ?

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                                                                                          I'm assuming it has some connection to the GFY Educational Series post on mailing...

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